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By:
the dealer
When: 31 Oct 19 22:35
the Wetherby race looks a good one
By:
stridingedge
When: 31 Oct 19 23:30
Not even looked yet Tom will do first thing.
By:
stridingedge
When: 31 Oct 19 23:32
Think I need an eye test

eyes getting tired these days struggling to stay the distance.
By:
sageform
When: 01 Nov 19 10:54
I would be tempted to lay Crealion. It has good form in France but not since June and Tom George's horses seem to badly in need of a run. Any of the other previous winners could be good but they look much of a muchness to me.
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 11:50
Tom George looking for his first winner in any sort of listed race.

0-71 (6.33 expected)

Looks a tricky race to me.
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 11:58
Looks a bit strange not seeing any of the usual suspects represented in this particular race Henderson,King, Nicholls.
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 12:01
Neil says I'm not happy with that striding!
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 12:07
14 runners since 1997 in this race had run in a class 2 event lto 6 went on to win this race.

Today The Walford runner would be the qualifier on this factor Half Bolly.

gL if you play the race George.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Nov 19 12:09
Good luck dealer if you get involved.

Quite a damning stat, striding!

Good luck sageform if you take him on. I see TG did have a winner yesterday off a break with Black Op. He's got the 5lb pen to contend with, but they've paid 150,000 euros for him and his form apparently has worked out.

It looks quite open and a case can be made for most of them.

On my dodgy Flat notebook to 3YO hurdle system Cry, I've got two qualifiers, and they both ran in a race at Market Rasen, the runner-up Zeb Spirit and the winner Half Bolly.

Zeb Spirit looks the more likely of the pair as he's 8lb better off, the shorter trip will suit and he's since  possibly been unlucky not to have won over today's C/D, having fallen three out when yet to be asked for an effort (race won by today's rival Lady Shanawell).

Half Bolly has a 3lb penalty to contend with, and given he needed all of the stretch-2m trip at MR to get on top, this sharper test isn't certain to suit, also connections see the need to reach for cheekpieces.
However, I'm going to make him the pick EW in the hope the soft conditions bring his stamina into play, and he did run well on soft ground on the Flat albeit at a lowly level, and after just 8 career starts, there's still time for improvement.

Half Bolly, 1pt EW @ 33-1
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Nov 19 12:11
Missed your last post striding as I was typing that out, let's hope that stat is relevant today! Cheers.
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 12:14
I wouldn't play it based on a stat ever mate but the stat certainly doesn't dissuade and with a lot of the sexy trainers not involved perhaps they are taking a bit of a chance with Marks at the prevailing odds with so little to go on under NH rules.

All the best I hope it runs well and gets in the money. Wink
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 12:15
I know you wouldn't play based on stats only George btw you have far too much sense.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Nov 19 12:17
striding, I make no secret of the fact that with these freds it is only the odds that dictate.

365 clipped him into 25s one minute before I posted Cry
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 12:19
The barstewards Tongue Out
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Nov 19 12:21
It seems odd being penalised in a Listed race for winning a class 2, what's that all that about? Crazy
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Nov 19 12:22
one that too many Crazy
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 12:23
There was huge priced winner of this race a few years back.

Maoi Chinn Tire (1000 on here?, 200/1 industry), thought it was about 4/5 years back but was actually 2010 Shocked

I remember watching it and it pished up pretty snugly too.

How time flies!
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 12:34
George

Trainer
Flat Rating
Nothing placed in 5 subsequent runs from its MR win.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Nov 19 12:54
Thanks striding, though Zeb Spirit probably would have had he stood up at Wetherby last time?
By:
Cork Langer
When: 01 Nov 19 13:00
Have to row in with horse named after my cousin Dan, we Langer's stick together....!
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Nov 19 13:08
Good luck CL

The fav out to 3-1 now having been put in at odds on last night
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 15:12
Early days before market fills GEORGE bit shorter now.

GL CORKY
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 15:13
TG's 6/4 out to 11/2 Shocked
By:
sageform
When: 01 Nov 19 15:30
Would have been happy to lay Crealion at 3 but not interested at this price. Seems nobody else fancies it. I have not had a bet but would be tempted by Maria Magdalena.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Nov 19 15:35
Well done Corkie, the Langer wins it
By:
madhatters
When: 01 Nov 19 15:35
WD Cork
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 15:35
well played corky Cool
By:
sageform
When: 01 Nov 19 15:36
wd cork, good race between us 2Happy Tom George's stopped dead again.
By:
madhatters
When: 01 Nov 19 15:36
Fave looked smart mover
Till the last Grin
By:
Cork Langer
When: 01 Nov 19 15:41
Cheers all, doubt there is much improvement to come going forward
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 01 Nov 19 15:45
Half Bolly wasn't disgraced under his pen in 5th, and did manage to beat again the easy to back Zeb Spirit on the 8lb worse terms, but that's probably not saying much, and up against his rivals he did look a little pony in comparison size wise.

There's a 3YO hurdle to open the card at Down Royal tomorrow.

Running P/L: -8
By:
elise
When: 01 Nov 19 15:54
played cork, hope you are well?
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 23:18
Big fat zero with the trainers here George IMO, hard to get ahead from these sorts of profiles with prices.
By:
stridingedge
When: 01 Nov 19 23:19
*tomorrows Down Royal opener.
By:
Cork Langer
When: 01 Nov 19 23:28
All well thanks elise, hope it is the same for you? Just enjoying a few plays on the US racing, haven't played it for a while, must try to play it more often, have always enjoyed it.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 02 Nov 19 00:42
yeah, think I'll give this DR one a miss, striding, and the one at Huntingdon on Sunday doesn't look too appealing either Plain
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Nov 19 00:50
Will have a look at sunday's tomorrow. Wink
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Nov 19 01:02
The Stuart Edmunds runner would interest me around 7/1+ on sunday.
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Nov 19 01:07
Trainer placed his runners well so far (admittedly small sample) in these juvenile hurdles races ft run over hurdles.
New approach a good profile this sort of race
fit from aw in ire.

Will go a bit deeper tomorrow.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 02 Nov 19 01:11
The winner of his last AW run has gone in again tonight.

My only 'qualifier' is Waterproof and all its form has been on the AW.
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