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Thanks for the comments guys, good to get back on track.

I thought Dubai Silk was going well, but she didn't find much at the end.

The winner looks a nice prospect and will defintely go on to better things.

Was not that sleepy in the stalls i m o.

Andrew

Ghost

Nice one

This fellows no early morning riser ^

Andrew

Morning from sunny Yorkshire

Morning denz, S and S and number 2 fan

Bricks await me

Winner done it nicely, suited by the ease in the ground and a good gallop and aided by the rail. I think the rain softened ground made it difficult for Dubai Silk (by Helmet, record on easy ground is average) who raced a bit freely in the centre of the track. The second ran well just being done for finishing gears, a step up in trip will suit.

The race has rated nicely enough.

Indian Tigress 83
Maid Of Spirit 80
Dubai Silk 78
Maximum Power 74
Poyle George Two 47
Foxy Feeling 32

80 for a filly on debut is perfectly respectable and she will improve, also it suggests Indian Tigress has actually improved for the drop back to 5f (by 3lb), but I feel this is purely because of the ease in the ground. This filly is a soft ground horse but looks a solid mid 80s horse and will benefit from 6f. The 3rd has ran pretty much the same race as it did last time out. Running within 1lb of that effort, but may be better suited to a faster surface.
The one to note from the race is Maximum Power who is from a small yard. Far too keen over 6f on debut, he weakened tamely that day, but today running green he ran on nicely for a hand ride. A vast improvement on his debut effort, posting 74 here, he could be open to further improvement and whilst his pedigree suggests he will get further he still looks on the weak side. Another whose pedigree speaks ease in the ground. I would personally throw the handicapper a headache if I trained this horse and run him over a sharp 5f (Wolves, Lingfield, Catterick, Thirsk or Bath) and let him get outpaced in a normal grade of race. The handicapper would then possibly allude he was a shade flattered at Windsor and may give him a mark in the high sixties but no higher than 70. Of which I would then be very interested in him in a 0-70 over 6f especially on a galloping track with ease in the ground, with him being more race experienced. Whilst the winner will be a nice horse, she will be hard to place for Clive Cox and I no doubt feel he would have rather her come 2nd or 3rd. In a novice she would have to shoulder a penalty and on his blog he alluded to her needing juice in the ground so they may have to be patient, and whilst 80 is a decent debut, going straight into listed class will make things very tough and she could end up getting a higher mark than she needs. Again I would go 6f on the all weather with her, and hope unless she wins impressively, she gets a mark in the low 80s to make her of interest in backend fillies handicaps and have natural progression to improve.
I think the 2nd will not struggle off a mark in the low to mid eighties and would not be surprised if connections looked at the valuable 0-95 fillies handicap at Doncaster at the Ledger meeting, where you normally get ease in the ground. The 3rd will get a mark of about 80, which is as good as she is. She would need to improve to win off this mark, and will be fast ground dependant. The winner if placed right is definitely of interest and the 2nd and 4th can definitely be taken out of the race, but much will depend how sensible the fourth horses connections are in terms of where they go next time, to make most of what could be a who could slip through the handicappers net.

Good luck if you're laying today Andrew.

Hit team lay of the day Andrew 2.45 Flos las

burkey jockey well in profit @that rating above ,gl

"the drop into selling handicap means if it doesn't win, it can be claimed for £3000 I think"

Clearly states in the race conditions that the claiming price is £8,000.

At the post race auction the minimum sale price for the winner is £3K, but it does state the minimum claiming price is £8K for the others - presumably because it's a handicap.

All About The Pace and Dora's Field both got interesting rides lto imo. Imo Marquand had a shocker on Dora's Field, made a massive move out quite wide on the home bend, looked like she would win only to hit the brick wall inside the final furlong. Must have gone close to winning had she been ridden to see her race out better.

All About The Pace probably brings the best piece of recent form into the race, being run down only late on at Lingfield by a couple of unexposed 3YOs, and she raced from out of the handicap that day too.
Was it a good or bad ride by SDS? Dropped in initially from a wide draw, maybe his hand was forced as she was keen, but made a move out wide from 6f out to eventually get to the front 4f out, and then stuck to the ? dead rail in the straight. It looked a good run in defeat so probably a good ride imo!

You really are a total knob aren't you - no possibilty that you could be wrong and somebody else could be right.

Here's the full conditions of the race taken from the Weatherbys Racing Admin website:


Weights published on August 9th

Rating for qualification published August 7th

CLOSED ON AUGUST 8TH

Total race value £6640
Distributed in accordance with Schedule (F)9.3.2 & Schedule (F)11
£3493 to the winning horse
The second to receive £1039, the third £519, the fourth £300,
the fifth £300, the sixth £300, the seventh £300
and the eighth £300

for three yrs old and upwards,
Rated 46-65
(also open to such horses rated 66 and 67; such horses rated 45
and below are also eligible - see Standard Conditions)

ONE MILE ABOUT TWO FURLONGS

Enter by noon, August 8th and pay
£25 stake if the horse is rated 46 or higher, or
£5 stake if the horse is rated 45 or lower with
£20 extra if the horse is declared to run
Declare by 10.00 a.m. August 12th

Lowest weight: 4-y-o and up........8st 9lb; 3-y-o…8st 1lb
Highest weight: 4-y-o and up.........10st; 3-y-o…9st 6lb
Penalties, after August 4th, 2018, for each race won…6lb

The winner to be sold by auction in accordance with the Rules
of Racing for*£3000
Advertised Claiming Price of any other horse starting*£8000

Totepool have generously sponsored this race.
In addition they will award £100 cash to the person
responsible for the horse judged to be best turned out.

All horses which Start in this race, as defined in the Rules of
Racing, shall be required to carry a speed sensing device in
accordance with the provisions of Rule (C)43.4. This provision
does not constitute any qualification for the purposes of
Schedule (B)2.4.
Any surplus over the selling price shall be divided in the
following proportions: the Racecourse to receive 20% and the
Owner to receive 80%. In the case of a dead-heat any surplus in
either case shall be divided in the same proportions between the
Racecourse and the respective Owners.
The claiming price of each horse will be subject to an additional
10% Premium (plus V.A.T.) payable to the Racecourse, split
equally between the Buyer and the Owner, and both the selling
price and the advertised claiming price will be subject to
V.A.T., where applicable.
The post race auction of the winner will be conducted in POUNDS.

Andrew,

Apolgies for this, but this self appointed, verbose, know all has to be pulled up by somebody.

TheAnorak    14 Aug 18 12:31 
You really are a total knob aren't you - no possibilty that you could be wrong and somebody else could be right.

Okay thanks The Anorak. Must have been £5000 and not £3000 I had seen in a race, I do recall in the past there have been £3000 in selling handicaps as I claimed one for an owner of Jim Bests a couple of years ago which was in for 3K in a selling handicap and that was around Brighton.

But thanks for posting the full terms.

Used to have a log in for Racing Admin when it was in it's old format, but not re registered since the site has changed as no longer have a horse in training which I did last year.

As usual dom.you are quite correct pal

Oh boy

what was the lay please?