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By:
mouse muldoon
When: 24 Apr 18 14:37
Enjoys the sea breeze
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 24 Apr 18 14:38
And the view of the turbines.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 24 Apr 18 14:38
The marked improvement a lot of Nathaniels were showing from 2 to 3 last season?
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 24 Apr 18 14:44
Same with Galileo's but you go skint backing them all, I agree with Andrew it's only fav because of trainer.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 24 Apr 18 14:47
When he ran at York last season I noted he had a knee action, not that it always indicates a preference for soft ground. The step up in trip looks sure to suit on pedigree, the dam being a 10f winner out of a half-sister to an Oaks winner.

I thought our cyber-friend domino might have been on as he has a line to the Haggas runners on the gallops.
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 24 Apr 18 14:48
Yes we need Domino is it a back or lay? Still a lay for me FWIW
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 24 Apr 18 14:49
Not by the end of May last season you wouldn't have

Nathaniels in Hcps: L511121 (wins inc. 20/1, 14/1, 10/1)
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 24 Apr 18 14:51
Good stats George so lay the shorties and back the double figure ones.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 24 Apr 18 14:53
Given they tend to be grinders on the racecourse I wouldn't expect them to be doing impressions of Dayjur on the gallops
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Apr 18 15:24
Doesn't appear to be much confidence in the ring.
Probably as good a guide as you'll get to it's chances today.
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 24 Apr 18 15:29
Well done again Andrew, nice call.
By:
Lampus
When: 24 Apr 18 15:29
Happy
By:
tanglefoot
When: 24 Apr 18 15:30
WD
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 24 Apr 18 15:31
Just got touched off, lucky, still well done they all count.
By:
Movewiththetimes
When: 24 Apr 18 15:33
WD
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 24 Apr 18 15:45
Well done Andrew, never in doubt
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 24 Apr 18 15:48
The first 5 finished in a bit of a heap, but it looked as though the challenge of Cristal Spirit in the final furlong was going to be enough (beaten a neck). I did state i had 7 in with a shout running for me, but to be honest i didn't expect Immortal Romance to win, although it did run 3rd on the course last year. The 2nd in that race has won since, and the winner has won a listed race.

After some initial backing this morning (mentioned in the SL) it did drift late on.

Cristal Spirit 2nd @ 7/2

Daily profit £50
Running total profit £100

Another lay tomorrow
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 24 Apr 18 15:48
LOL George
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 24 Apr 18 16:31
Looking at todays cards, it's difficult to find a lay i feel reasonably confident about, although there are several at longer odds. I did consider Getabird at Punchestown as i'm still not convinced he's the real deal, and he's probably reliant on heavy ground, that he won't have today, but as yesterday, i will remain with flat racing.

11/10f finished unplaced
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 25 Apr 18 09:17
It's not easy to find a lay of 5/2 or less on the flat today (I was hoping James Cook at Epsom would be shorter) so it's north of the border to NH racing.

2.35 Perth Scorpion Sid

Runner up in a PTP last season and easy winner of 2 class 4 novice hurdles, although looking at the form of the latter there doesn't appear to be much depth to it, additionlly, both wins on heavy going, so distances may have been exaggerated. It will be soft today, but the going shouldn't be an issue to any of the runners. Whilst he's obviously progressing, and may turn out useful in time, he's significantly up in class and trip today, and meeting a more experienced, good type in Callet Mad (rated 7lb superior) a C/D winner. and the form of his Musselburgh win reads well in the context of this race. NTD has found a nice little black type race for his high profile connections. It looks like Knockrobin has to find a little more, but is certainly not out of it.

Lay @ 2.76

Good luck all.

5-Apr-18
08:48:30    14:35 Perth
Scorpion Sid - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:123433940191 | Matched: 25-Apr-18 08:50:09    Lay    2.76    50.00    88.00
50.00
Matched
By:
tanglefoot
When: 25 Apr 18 09:58
Best of luck,Andrew,interested to see if betting to fixed liability or fix stake the better strategy.
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 25 Apr 18 10:18
Thanks tanglefoot, I lay horses often, but don't use fixed stakes as I have done for the sake of this thread (or liability). Unless you keep the lays to a low/small range of odds, and have a high rate of success, i don't see a significant benefit.

When i do lay, my stake is generally based on the reasoning and confidence level i have about it. Some would disagree, but betting is about opinions anyway.
By:
sj
When: 25 Apr 18 10:28
decent thread keep up the good work andrew
By:
StillLearning
When: 25 Apr 18 11:21
Bit late arriving on this one, missed the first two, but followed you in with this one. My record for laying is terrible hope I have not put a bok on it.
By:
Lampus
When: 25 Apr 18 14:42
Happy
By:
StillLearning
When: 25 Apr 18 14:42
Impressive stuff Andrew well done
By:
mouse muldoon
When: 25 Apr 18 14:43
wd again A in S
By:
tanglefoot
When: 25 Apr 18 14:45
Happy
By:
knot in wood
When: 25 Apr 18 14:46
when nevison fancied scorpion sid i thought you had a good chance..well done.
By:
gutfeeling
When: 25 Apr 18 15:08
Andrew In Clover Cool
By:
Virgin
When: 25 Apr 18 15:13
Seemed a brave lay (3 runners) to me at the time Shocked wd Andrew
By:
kevdartsking
When: 25 Apr 18 15:20
Another one bites the dust great work Andrew keep them coming Happy
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 25 Apr 18 15:43
Thanks for the comments guys.

Virgin, not really a brave lay, but i understand what you mean with respect to only 3 runners, although there was a gulf between form of the main 2. On one hand, you had an experienced novice with experience in group races, winning form in a decent class 2 beating Cresswell Legend who is useful, a C/D winner and ground wasn't a worry. On the other hand, a novice hurdler who had won a couple of egg and spoon class 4's of dubious form, in heavy going, albeit easily. Although progressive, he had something to prove today and didn't. I'm surprised he was rated only 7lb below the fav, although it's easy to say after the race (beaten by 31L).

Scorpion Sid 2nd @ 15/8

Daily profit £50
Running total profit £150 (3 days)

Another lay tomorrow
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 25 Apr 18 15:47
James Cook at Epsom also got beat (4th @ 7/2) ref my earlier post.
By:
GHOSTOFALEXBIRD
When: 25 Apr 18 18:46
Well done Andrew even got beat with me laying it

And I'm the worlds worstest ever layerHappy

This is the road to milk and honeyCool
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 25 Apr 18 18:52
Well done
By:
deadbrain59
When: 25 Apr 18 18:58
enjoy it while it lastsMischief
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 25 Apr 18 19:25
Scared
By:
GHOSTOFALEXBIRD
When: 25 Apr 18 20:01
Scared x 2
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 25 Apr 18 20:02
Scared
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