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Been on for an hour, now - and still going on.
The Presenter - has really done his howework - and gave the Willian Hill Director of Communications, who was interviewed, the most severe mauling that I have ever heard in this debate.
Shop Managers now phoning in saying that they are given, "Daily Targets." - and that, "you can bet £5,000 easily on the FOBT - but you would never get a bet of £500 on a horse"... etc. .
The Presenter - has really done his howework - and gave the Willian Hill Director of Communications, who was interviewed, the most severe mauling that I have ever heard in this debate.
Shop Managers now phoning in saying that they are given, "Daily Targets." - and that, "you can bet £5,000 easily on the FOBT - but you would never get a bet of £500 on a horse"... etc. .
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Just caught about 10 minutes of it and that particular presenter is one of the best you will come across on the BBC.
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Stephen Nolan is the presenters name.
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.. was it nolan. ?
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snap... thanks sparrow.
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Will they make the audio available on the website?
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An excellent listen, and the William Hill CEO was given his chance to defend the impenibg doom.Thereafter,ever contributor exposed the sheer hypocrisy and downright deceit of all Bookmakers.Hopefully this will be followed up,and Nolan promised to send in a team to talk to one particular victim this week,so I'm sure we have not heard the last of this subject.
The self-assured William Hill guy must be regretting his appearance on the Show,but how do you you defend the indefensible. |
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what chance of it getting mentioned on the racing post website or print edition?
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^^1.01 zilch!
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Programme late started at 10pm so not too many would have tuned,but at least half a dozen people rang in during the 20 or so minutes allowed for listener response, and if it carried on through the night I got the impression people would have still been ringing in.
So perhaps there is a groundswell of people I sensed by this subject and it will be publicised in a wider public forum. This is the first time it has been thrown open for public debate to my knowledge, and more should follow. To hear these parasites squirm on the end of a barbed hook was music to my ears. |
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Stephan Nolan is top draw imo.
Like a dog with a bone. |
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Impossible123,Nolan has sent his team out to talk with victims so a follow-up program is guaranteed in the not-to-distant,but a crusade to rid the land of this scourge would be only a dream.
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You can listen here, just rewind it on the player:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_five_live If not you can listen to the recording which will probably be up by tomorrow, just go to the player & enter Stephen Nolan Show. |
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you need to sign in and register to listen to BBC radio??
pathetic the BBC, what happened to BBC radio being free and accessible at the point of consumption? |
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Been like that for a while.
They just need your basic details, name, d.o.b & email if I remember. |
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Blimey still going on...
I believe he said that he will replay the interview with the man from W Hill tomorrow evening. |
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Interesting.
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a groundswell of people in the uk wanting to tell people how to spend their money and live theiur lives,who,d haver flunked it stop the world let me get off,maybe they can spend money on something more sensible like cannabis when the same groundswell of people get their way and legalise it
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is this the same nolan that went on a crusade re child abuse?
if so the whill bod might as well have covered himself in dog food and jumped into a cage of dobermans |
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Nolan has made his reputation as an aggreesive interviewer and can be irritating because he sets out with an agenda and doesn't listen to answers which don't fit in with it. This particular issue suited his style however as the defence of FOBTs is invariably pathetic when put under any sort of pressure by somebody who has an idea of what they are talking about. Tbf on this occasion Nolan did seem to have.
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FOBT'S get reduced to £2, so many shops get closed and staff are out of work. If someone plays one of these machines and does their bollox, who cares?
If you keep losing on them, how about waking up and give these machines a wide berth? You might as well limit people to 1 packet of cigs a week or 2 pints of beer. |
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He should know what he's talking about. He's did his bollox in on the FOBTs with William Hill then kicked off about it
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was the enticement of offering free spins on the fobts ? in the early days of the fobts on saturday mornings 2 attractive girls would be stood outside my local laddies, balloons ,bunting etc offering free goes on the fobts to anyone of age who walked past the shop ,with the slogan have a free £10 bet sir/madam its free you cant lose ! how many previous non punters ended up addicted by this enticement ?
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If you ignore the social problems caused by FOBTs you are still left with a situation where bookies don't do what they are licensed for. Their primary focus is supposed to be on taking bets,which we all know they are reluctant to do in most circumstances. FOBTs were allowed by the Blair government when their plans for "super-casinos" fell through for whatever reason ( Blackpool was expecting to be the Las Vegas of northern England.) FOBTs were supposed to be a sideline but everybody is aware that they are now the core of the business.
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^^^^^ was the enticement discussed on the show ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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so we close all pubs ,restaraunts that send chuggers on the streets handing out flyers offering 10% off drinks meals etc
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The bookies defenders on here are ignoring the fact that pubs by and large do what they are licensed to do,that is sell alcohol. Bookies license is essentially to take bets not trade as a casino.
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Had Harry Findlay on his BBC NI program a few months ago but never gave Harry a chance or realised who he was a total shambles of a program with no clue of what he was trying to achieve Harry called him a fat **** when show was over lol storming out didnt matter to Harry though was paid very well for what small input he gave.
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there isnt a week that goes by when there isnt a thread on FOBTS on this forum , im sick of it . if you think reducing the stake to £2 , £5 , £10 etc is going to benefit any of us ie bookmakers taking a bet again etc you lot are living in cloud cuckoo land . whatever the government decide the bookies will still squeeze up the margins you still wont get a bet on the dye has been cast , the only thing that will change is a reduction in the number of betting shops and to be fair theres too many of them anyway
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Nobody's forcing you to read these threads Michael. It would be unfortunate if you vomited over your laptop.
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The question to ask is whether people on here would continue with their social conscience if bookmakers ended their restrictions tomorrow.
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Is it the FOBT's you are objecting to Salmon, or the fact that they will not lay your bets?
If you are a mug punter you will be accommodated all day long. If you are a shrewdie, you will find it very difficult to get on. Always was that way as far back as i can remember. |
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I have not used a betting shop since about 2003 and have probably had about 30 bets in them in my life. All my betting is done on here unless I am on course.I have occasionally ventured inside the odd one in recent years just to see what they are like and the whole situation has changed. Usually one customer,often playing a FOBT,and one bored/scared looking member of staff.
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unfortunate ffs it would be catastrophic
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Listening to the recording now trying to defend the indefensible the government must be serious about lowering stakes for the CEO to come and face the music. His bonus must be in question.
The point of this is it has nothing to do with whether you can get a decent bet on. For once people, think of people other than yourselves, housewives who sit there putting their kids clothes money in the machines. These machines are an utterly abhorrent scab on society's weakest. At least we know what we are doing in the main, if we didnt we wouldnt be posting on here. |
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if you think there arnt people on here betting money they cant afford ,shouldn't really be gambling with ,your a deluded fool, theres premiership footballers who,ve been nowhere near a fobt, losing familys,careers,buisness,s etc,dont hear calls for gambling,adverts for gambling,minimum stakes for gambling been Intoduced to help these people from themselves,theres people putting their lifetime savings into bitcoin due to intensive advertising,media interest,doing their conkers should this be banned
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09sm8sp#play
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eric morris.........It certainly shouldn't haven't anything to do with getting your bets on but I suspect in a number of cases it might just be forgotten about if the bookie suddenly decided to lay the bets.
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Yes I would guess there are problem gamblers on here however to go to the effort of setting up an internet account to take better value shows a certain amount of nous that the average betting shop punter doesnt show. The proportion of people on here who know what they are doing will be much greater than those who just bet in shops taking shoyte value every day.
Those only in betting shops are not in any way savvy with gambling to the degree most of us are and should be protected against these scummy machines. Housewives with young kids shoving their cash in them may be acceptable to you but it isnt to me because I dont just give a sht about myself. |
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Unfortunately some people do not seem to have sufficient intelligence to realise the FOBT will bleed them dry and the odds are stacked against them, thus making them perfect cannon fodder - the problem for Joe Public is these people may well turn to crime to satisfy their addiction.
They need to be banned completely from Bookmakers, they never used to be there and if they want to have them open an arcade and get back to laying decent bets (if they ever did) |