A laugh   zips in   the government
called to the bar
my  might I suggest 3 proposals
1  ban the fobs
2  ban  drinking and smoking
3  ban  prostitution  by the way that's the oldest profession in the world



4  how long would I be in goverment

eqine flew,,  i can assure you its true,,,  i dont play these machines,  but i know what i saw ,,  maybe some on here that does play the fobs, can try it, and let us know,,  you have to press both machines at the same time ,, if you do , the result will be the same number on both machines..

the bookies i was in the guy was able to reach the start button on both machines

james , some guys know as soon as the ball starts where its gonna land,,  some of them are never wrong

Based on the random number generated, the game will initiate a video sequence for that given number.   So it is highly likely after regular use, players recognise the video sequence and can call the outcome.   This does not mean the game is biased against the better.

your heads up your as

Trust me there is nothing random about these machines no matter how many explanations you guys come up with.

skygreenzone

Point 1 - Incorrect
Point 2 - Correct

Then how to they manage to make the bookies billions of pounds profit,not millions.Why don't they say how much is wagered and how much is paid out then we would all know the truth shouldn't be hard this day and age.

So a 2.7 edge can produce that much profit very much doubt it.

Do not forget the ratio of a win is also dependent upon the cumulative takings of all the fobt in the company eg ladcrooks/ok koral (at least 4000 in total), and not one specific shop. For instance, a player could be losing zillions in shop 'A' and if the cumulative takings have not been reached for a payout that the player will not win even if on a long losing run at £100 per 20 seconds.

The most prudent advice is...leave fobt well alone. It can seriously damage your health and wealth due to his addictive powers.

Do not forget the ratio of a win is also dependent upon the cumulative takings of all the fobt in the company eg ladcrooks/ok koral (at least 4000 in total), and not one specific shop. For instance, a player could be losing zillions in shop 'A' and if the cumulative takings have not been reached for a payout that the player will not win even if on a long losing run at £100 per 20 seconds.

^^JML, expand? Everyone here could be enlightened esp so if you are in the industry and directly fobt involved. Otherwise.....

this is what you said wednesday

The payout ratio of fobt is also fixed but can be altered (if necessary). However, the payout on the fobt is governed by the "hopper" effect eg if the hopper is full then there is a more likelihood of a payout in the immediate future and the lucky player will win at the expense of the previous player/s who'd unknowingly topped up the hopper with their money. However, if the hopper is empty eg the machine had just paid-out the hopper will need to be topped-up (by an unlucky player) before a payout can happen again. And this could be some considerable time because the ratio of the overall payout is also governed by the overall takings eg if the overall taking is only 1/3 of target ie the ratio has not been reached then no payout in the immediate future until it has.

Because of the number of machines in the bookies the bookies can be assured they will always win given the fixed payout ratio; hopper effect; limited funds of any player to play till hopper effect is payout positive; ratio of overall payout to overall taking eg on a quiet day a lower number of payouts.

No ifs,buts or maybe this is the way it was, but only about an hour later you had to concede that it was nonsense.

£50 quid  it should be a lot less   say what  a punter can get on a horse with  any bookie

50 quid a spin on the fobs they have  no risk..
50 quid on a horse they have a risk...