Hatters, I know we obviously want nice prices but does Fiendish seem TOO big with it's profile , this would be miles bigger than any other Sheikh horse with similar 3yo handicapping profile that has won.

Doesn't look right to me

John Quinn thwarted us a bit on here last season McCoy he has decent stats at following up this level from mdns.

I don't know if it means anything but Carlisle has been poor for class droppers in my DB, 4 winners from 50, BF market indicating 10.4 expected, a small sample but a big difference actual/expected.

something to keep an eye on

gl with IS

One of those successful Carlisle class droppers runs today Yorkee Mo Sabee in the 5:25. Ran much better at Beverley last time than before, scorching a trail before tiring late over further. Sees a similar drop in class to same mark as last season here when romping home over a mile.

Fast ground is not proven though sire stats are very good (good or faster) and there are a few other potential early pace options here if trying to blast out and make all again.

This was the main one i was thinking of playing today

8-17 with these class droppers 4's to 5 in this age hcp

not happening

nice maktoum winner,

There to take chances SE
Ground a poss issue
So is Kirby/Cox saver
16 EW
Predict the unpredictable

The 2 mdn runners today ran belting races at prices.

5/6, 1/1 odds on.

Won't be doing too many till then mate

up in dist?

Don't find any strengths at the track with this type.
Soft could help but may be a complete blow out

class rises this type + OR rise for not winning over same distance pretty weak in 4's (no class risers winning 3yo hcps at Nottingham in my DB but only 12 runners)

Just a bit wary with the usual expected slow build into the Peak season next few weeks with this sort. You could have done your b0ll0x following these handicappers recently after that quick hot spell early May.

A lot of these stats are too niche and small to place much faith in but that sort of adds weight to hang around for bigger groups number's wise that look much more trustworthy season after season especially in a spell that is often pretty quiet.

So nothing against today's runner but on profiles nothing strong either.

Gl Hatters

Maybe i will just keep to Group company
In minus overall even with that one

* should have been trainer runners at track that day  1 68-777(8.75%)

Had a look at Celestation as it fits my criteria for a bet, but have left her. Ground is soft (but drying out) but it's her last run that has put me off - but isn't that Johnston horses all over?

kicked a long way out and got caught only btn 2 1/2l, Bath a testing finish even on fast ground

I'm not sure it was that bad a run was it McCoy and despite the class rise is actually still top rated which isn't that usual.

I wondered abt the formula
Looked the same

not much to sweat on with that one.

Haven't profiled the race yet but Rainbow Rebel ran a sound race latest start back up in trip for the Zetland Gold Cup (next monday), would fit a decent general profile for a class 2 this time of year if taking up that engagement.

The 2's and 3's with certain characteristics a bit more appealing on their strike rates this time of the year, if any are flagged up will definitely play them.

Interesting 2yo at Catterick tomorrow Rebel Assault fits a group seeing 8-18 fto scorers but I'm still not sure I can bring myself to select something I've never seen before!

In Rebel Assault's race (seems like I could have been onto something with this one)

2.20 11 Wirral Girl (bitten)