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By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 19:16
Yes but those consuming wheat had higher incidence of heart disease
By:
ladycarla
When: 02 Jul 16 19:17
Wrong most fats are good for your heart
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Jul 16 19:17
chocolate, high salt and sugar snacks?
By:
ladycarla
When: 02 Jul 16 19:18
Carbs are what cause heart disease
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 19:19
I agree Carla with the exception of Trans fats and of course the balance of Omega3 and Omega 6
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 19:19
Spot on carla, simple carbs that is
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 19:20
Edge, chocolate 85% cacoa in moderation is heart healthy, loads of magnesium
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Jul 16 19:21
MODERATION is the word

the belly sizes of the usa and now this country are suggesting moderation went out of the window decades ago
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 19:23
The problem is people think moderation means trans fats in moderation is ok, sugar in moderation is ok and of course it is not
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 19:25
"I am not afraid of death, I just dont want it to be my fault". Off out to eat now thanks for participating in the thread
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Jul 16 19:25
The odd bit of junk food, and i mean a small bag of crisps or 1 bar of chocolate a week in a diet rich in many fruits and vegetables and a diet high in processed meats.

what do you think a study would show on this IF you could filter out every other factor that may cause serious illness?
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Jul 16 19:27
enjoy your dust for dinner GrinWink
By:
ladycarla
When: 02 Jul 16 19:28
no bread with your soup LaughLaugh
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 19:28
If a food stuff has been shown to be detrimental to health why try and negotiate some sort of minimum level that you THINK might not effect you. As I constantly say to friends, replace one set of delicious food that causes cancer and heart disease with another set of delicious food that promotes health.
By:
ladycarla
When: 02 Jul 16 19:28
Saying that bet it's off to macdonalds after all that LaughLaughLaugh
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 19:29
Funnily enough part of our problem is soil related and food production but I will leave Carla to run that by you .... adios for now
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Jul 16 19:29
I'm just saying there are man many foods that are supposed to be bad.

I have never heard anywhere about bread being linked to heart disease in the western world but countless studies on other foods.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 02 Jul 16 19:39
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 02 Jul 16 19:39
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 02 Jul 16 19:42
its took me a 3 times to say it but what a load of carp.
By:
stridingedge
When: 02 Jul 16 19:46
carp good for the heart apparently Grin
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 02 Jul 16 19:51
.. just had a little sea bass...  but all joking aside i am sure the little of everything will stand you in good stead.  Happy
By:
ladycarla
When: 02 Jul 16 19:51
Eat less carbs and replace them with butter and cheese, the 1948 farmingham report led to the overweight society in the usa which is just starting to boom in uk now.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 02 Jul 16 19:54
By:
Fatlad 1981
When: 02 Jul 16 20:28
You can't live forever no matter what you do in life! What makes me laugh most is when I'm in a traffic jam and you see joggers running on the pavements, lungs working overtime breathing the deepest you will ever breath getting those car fumes deep inside the lungs SadSadSad

very true thought it was just me who thought that I see and think this everyday
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 20:51
actually it  was the mcgovern report of 1977 that finish us aided by Mr Ancel Keys
By:
ladycarla
When: 02 Jul 16 21:07
Fatlad, I want to get out the car and say what are you doing!! Unfortunately I'm never done this Cry
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 02 Jul 16 21:28
I pity the poor kids that get this terrible disease - how do you quantify their "lifestyles" as to why they get this - cant blame the drink, smokes or diet on them can you.
Can only speak as i find but as someone who is currently still battling with bowel cancer and its after effects i will happily hold my hands up and say ive eaten too many bacon sandwiches in my time and yes ive probably had too much to drink when ive gone out on a weekend wiv my mates - ffs we probably got close to our weekly limits drinking whilst we were getting ready lol but you just cant win cos if you eat your 5 a day fruit wise at least then you get too much sugar in your system wtf lol .
And as for Macmillan they have been nothing short of amazing and inspirational to me but hey ho Germanys just scored so little rant over LaughLaughSurprisedSurprised
By:
Fatlad 1981
When: 02 Jul 16 21:40
sorry to hear that smirnoff could happen to anyone the last few years I've cut down on processed meat but have drank a fair bit in my time gets scarier as you get older Sad
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 02 Jul 16 22:02
no need to be sorry fatlad - it is what it is and they reckon its likely that 1 in 2or3 people will suffer from the big c at some time in their life - my missus was diagnosed wiv breast cancer probs about 4-5 mths b4 me and yet shes never smoked in her life,is a lightweight drinker and eats minimal meat - a Sunday roast and the odd Indian/Chinese when we go out - i just wanted to give a balanced opinion to some of the posts on here most of which are based on heresay
By:
Captain Christy
When: 02 Jul 16 22:07
I can just imagine the fat bastuds chewing on their fcuking bacon sarnies wobbling their chins in disapproval at the joggers
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 22:18
I think you are failing to realise just how bad and how deep the problems go with our western diet. Its not just a case of how many bacon butties you have had. I spoke to a heart attack patient today and he said he could not understand it as he never ate burgers. Where do you start to explain ?. With regard to you bowel cancer you can fight this if you are willing to get radical with your diet
By:
OliasOfSunhillow
When: 02 Jul 16 22:19
Smirnoff check out the Gerson therapy
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 02 Jul 16 22:23
classy stuff CC -You go down in my estimations every day lad .... pity you didnt have the class of ya namesake

And Olias i know what to do as regards my diet - im living the dream mate
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 02 Jul 16 22:24
or rather the nightmare
By:
big_keef
When: 02 Jul 16 22:28
to say that diseases or conditions are not hereditary is totally wrong in my opinion heart disease is rife on my fathers side of the family with most of the males dying from it before they reached 50 I had a heart attack at 38, even with a relatively healthy lifestyle was young, I take statins and have done for over a decade, my cholesterol has dropped from 11 to below 3, I don't believe I could have achieved this by diet alone, from a family of 5 three of us have had a heart attack and three of us have had a cancer, I regulary give to cancer research and macmillans, who I believe provide an invaluable service and will continue to do so, I have 22 items on my prescription that I use each month, and I believe they have/are keeping me alive, everyone to their own though I suppose
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 02 Jul 16 22:30
well said big keef !!!!
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 02 Jul 16 22:35
As i said the other night  on another thread ive never smoked in my life apart from the obligatory try in the playground yet my brother smokes 40-60 a day - mind you he is a good 7 inches shorter than me - yes he's a dwarf lol- so it just shows that "smoking stunts ya growth" lol ffs SadSad
By:
Captain Christy
When: 02 Jul 16 22:37
I hadnt even read your post as it wasnt in English, my response was to fatlad
By:
only1mill
When: 02 Jul 16 22:42
Carrot juice & coffee enemas phook that i'd rather kop it
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