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The Sun -declaring Leave
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Small companies are not weighted down by regulations when trading with EU countries. That is propaganda and nonsense and I can say that categorically. We do it every day and there is no red tape. Selling to Norway is a different however....
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Market conditions? Double wages? What are you talking about. The minimum or living wage wasn't brought in because of market conditions it was supposedly brought in to foil rip off merchants. Apparently.
But, as I said, it is an accountants dream. Small amounts of money going to low paid workers will be spent therefore that money will pass though businesses, wages etc. Say the extra bit of money is spent in Tesco's that will increase their turnover and staffing requirements with some going as profits and some back to the government in NI and tax and VAT. It works providing the profit's are reinvested in the community and not going to shareholders. |
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Of course, what matters is not relative regulatory burdens but absolute ones.
In an imaginary world where everybody had a minimum wage of £20 an hour, and 20pc unemployment, the fact that we had one of £19 and 19pc unemployment would hardly be something to boast about. The reality is that the UK is now saddled with far greater amounts of red tape – forcing up energy costs and making industry uncompetitive, for example – than used to be the case. The fact that other economies have made the same mistakes (in many cases because of the EU) is immaterial. It is terrifying that a Tory Treasury no longer sees this. And for those who wonder why the Labour Party supports REMAIN: The Government’s second major concession was far more public. David Cameron has done a deal with trade unions to back the EU In an astonishing u-turn, the Prime Minister has done a deal with the trade unions to ensure that they back his Remain campaign. Many of the proposed reforms to their power – contained clearly in the Tory manifesto – will no longer happen. Despite this, it remains hard for business leaders to come out in favour of Brexit; the majority of those who have declared, and almost all business lobby groups, have backed Remain. The peer pressure is all one, with endless utterly implausible scare stories on trade in particular. So the fact that 110 business leaders, including HSBC’s former boss Mike Geoghegan, have just signed a pro-Brexit letter is a great statement of intent, especially given that they explicitly single out EU regulation as a major threat to the City. |
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It stinks! It stinks! It stinks!
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I assume that is the same Mike Geoghegan who after being found involved in the 2012 Mexican money laundering scandal was sacked by HSBC and then who in April 2016 was named as one of the major clients in the Panama scandal! AN upstanding example to us all!!
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He will be pro whatever pays him the most Brigust. Anyway nice chatting to you and all the best come Thursday evening and friday. Everyone has different opinions don't forget and everyone is entitled to their opinion however right or wrong you may think that is.
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A good article in today's Standard, brigust, by Anthony Hilton which opposed your view and concludes:
"It is difficult to see how leaving the EU can do anything other than make British employment even more insecure and British workers even more worse off". |
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The rise in minimum wage here is to make it more attractive to unskilled EU migrants and to prevent them being totally exploited by employers here who welcome this cheap labour with open bank balances. It is purely to keep the EU cheap labour oversupply train running on time for businesses exploiting them to attain huge wage profits instead of paying fair wages to a smaller pool of workers already here.
Market forces ensures too many people seeking work leads to wage compression for everyone and drives company wage profits up. It isnt rocket science. The EU is a business owners dream leading to vast wage profits and a working mans nightmare towards ever lower wages and unemployment. The unemployment rate in EU countries is already soaring due to this. Wake up and vote OUT to protect the future of your children and their children. |
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Captain Christy:
"I was borm and live in the English midlands oldgit" Why do I get the impression from some of your postings you are Irish? I've moved so often that I no longer claim to be from anywhere. |
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Cyclops one of the reasons you may find it difficult to recruit low paid workers from the UK could be because they have gone to college. Where school leavers etc would go into work and only a small percentage went to college now that number is huge because then the Government doesn't have to include them on the unemployment list and they leave college owning the Government thousands of pounds. Their details are then sold off to brokers for them to collect the money.
Another Government scam in spades. |
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I see dodgy Dave did an emergency plea today. He says we are in peril and face ruin, the prospect of such a fate did not bother him when he offered the referendum simply to buy another term in office.
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We will be in the Shiite make no mistake and will look a right bunch of mugs grovelling to get back into it on THEIR terms not ours.
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Most of the leave advocates have only ever had to think up to their next giro or weekly cheque from their employer little wonder they do not have any thought for the consequences.
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And you think the remain voters get their living from where exactly, Cap'n?
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Let's say that the leave voters are somewhat 'intellectually challenged'.
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Let's say that the leave voters are somewhat 'intellectually challenged'.
Well i'm certainly not. The UK government has decreed I can't vote, but if I could, it would be a definite out. |
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At the moment they seem to be challenging the intellectuals, the irony eh.
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Well I guess you've been living in Sweden for too long.
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No, W. Yorks here.
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Captain Christy, you are coming across very poorly suggesting leave supporters are intellectually challenged. There are some great economic brains, great business leaders and generally clever people who want to leave and many for reasons that don't even include migration.
I have an Economics degree, speak 3 European languages and strongly believe that Brexit is clearly the best option for the UK. Don't confuse Farage with the other arguments, he is probably the reason we will lose and that is a nightmare for people with vision. |
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Captain Christy 21 Jun 16 20:21
Well I guess you've been living in Sweden for too long. My third time here and this occasion since 2007; best thing I ever did. I get back to UK regularly and i'm happy to return here. England is not the country I was born in and used to know (sadly). |
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Farage and Ukip is the reason we are getting a vote like him or not.
Unfortunately, the British public are a danger to themselves as they lack the intellect to know what is good for them. It is obvious that well founded arguments of Leave are defeating Project Fear hands down however the British public will do as they are told by the propoganda machine. Depressing isnt it. |
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Seems like every fcukwit i know is a leave voter.. And why the fcuk someone living in fricking Sweden thinks they should have right to fcuk a country up that they don't even live in.. I'm lost for words.
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Left wingers like Captain Christy will be the downfall of our country and will definitely be the first to go quiet when it all goes wrong.
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Hi Andrew. How are you? Did you have a good Ascot? I came back for a couple of days at Ascot then stayed to vote. Leaving again on Friday morning.
I just cannot believe the lengths Cameron, the Labour party and the unions have gone to to screw up the country. I have no problem with a fair debate and a fair fight but they never intended that to happen right from the start. I wonder why? |
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Why the fcuk someone living up his own ar*e with the same name as a brilliant chaser .... i'm lost for words
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Andrew,
The Captain is just acting the kernt, he's ok really. |
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Hi Brigust, long time, no chat. Ascot was good, specially Quick Reflection
 and a couple of very classy 2 year olds. Cameron and Blair before him must be the worse leaders we've had in a very long time. |
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Holywell
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Half the fcuckers think that if only we didnt have the european court of human rights the country would be so much better off. I think their ideal is a fourth reich led by Farage.
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Captain Christy you obviously dont like freedom of speech you would have that in common with a reich.
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"intellectually challenged" coming from Captain Christy! That is ripe.
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My main bet was Found, sadly. I couldn't have the favourite and the she was the only danger so backing her instead of laying him seemed logical.
I backed the Gold Cup winner and because Henry Candy gets his paper from the same shop I backed Twilight Son. That wasn't the only reason of course but it helped. |
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If I hear take back control once more..... Absolute no policies but just a slogan.
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This worries me more than anything. The faith the people put in idiots like Boris. They have absolutely no plan at all.
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Dimbleby showing his bias as always.
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Its hard not to be biased Eric. Watching this is painful. I feel for genuine leave voters as you can't possibly be happy with this. Absolute nothing offered in terms of any definite policy. Just take back control, take back control....... what the hell is that!!
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I would be embarrassed if i was Remain. No arguments at all just Project Fear and the ultimate self destruction of the unions taking place in front of us. They used to stand for the working man now they stand for the multinationals and political elite. They will be gone within decades.
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Project fear- another slogan! If we leave I want to be confident we have the people in place so we can trade with the rest of the world- including the EU- I want to know what immigration levels will be, I want to know what will happen to exchange rates and the cost of living. They cant even give any stats on what they want for immigration!!
It is so so worrying this. Independent experts saying the economy will crash and yet we have no policies to combat this just take back control...... Its awful Eric and the vote is yours but my god does this scare me if we leave. |
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The woman with the mic is removing it from Leavers before they make their point ha ha BBC
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