|
By:
GL crooser, two of them on my list today.
|
|
By:
Result bet(s) 72,73,74 & 75.
Mutamakkin Lost -2pts (-£20) Lincoln Pl +1pt (+£10) Gran Canaria Queen Un Pl -2pts (-£20) Percy Street Un Pl -1pt (-£10) Running total -46.5pts (-£465) Bet 76. 1pt E.W. Le Maitre Chat 15.10 Chester 16-1 generally, Wednesday (Chester Cup) Despite the imminent 48hr decs for the Chester Cup I'm prepared to put my wager on today, the horse in question being Le Maitre Chat trained by Ian Williams. Looking at the way the race has been priced up those at the head of the market, Steve Rogers Eshtiaal and Quick Jack have been priced up as though they've already secured a plumb draw, with others that are well fancied such as Gang Warfare and Moonlight Landing looking short enough considering all of their recent progress has come on an artificial surface over the winter that has now been converted on to their respective turf marks. It also seems a race for horses aged between 4-6, with only 2 winners outside of that age range coming from the last 17 renewals, and it's also a race that doesn't throw up that many shock winners, with 15 of the last 21 renewals being won by a horse 10-1 or less. Ian Williams has not had Le Maitre Chat all that long, in fact having acquired the horse from the Clive Cox yard in August 2015 he's only had two starts for the yard, one of those races being the Cesarewitch At Newmarket. Having travelled well off the pace in that race he made smooth headway as the race started to develop up ahead, not navigating the greatest of passages through it has to be said when staying on very nicely to be 6th. He is a relitively unexposed type who could well be suited to extrem trips, and has plenty of form lines that tie him in with plenty ahead of him in the betting pecking order, and at Wednesdays weights he has every right to finish in and around those principles given the rub of the green in running. This race could have been the plan for a while, with connections booking the able services of Franny Norton to do the steering, who has a fairly decent record of riding this track over the years. It won't be surprising to learn it's been the turf track he's rode the most at during his career to date, it's also the track responsible for his highest percentage regarding the ratio of wins to rides, which at such a unique track to ride has to be a huge positive. It's been a little bit of a quandary in relation to putting the bet on today and holding on for the overnight market to form, but just thought if he was given a really nice low draw to jump from his current price may contract significantly. At his current odds even with a wide double figured draw he could still just about be backed (probably get slightly bigger), that very much not the case to those that are single figured prices ahead of him in the betting. If he was designated a favorable starting pitch, (Imo that would be stall 1 to 7 with 12 of last 19 winners from this range), he could well end up being a single figured price come the off, so I'm quite happy to be on at today's more favourable odds in that respect. GL if you get involved |
|
By:
Result bet 76.
Le Maitre Chat Un Pl -2pts(-£20) Running total -48.5pts (-£485) Bet(s) 77,78 & 79. 1pt E.W. Bathos 13.45 Haydock 14-1 with a few, 12-1 generally 1pt E.W. Grand Inquisitor 16.15 Ascot 12-1 generally available this morning (5places) 1/2pt E.W. Double (12-1 & 12-1) Use a BOG firm. Today I'm relying on a couple more horses from the notebook, both seem to be reasonable value in their respective races, with both Imo looking to hold very decent chances in their contests. The first at Haydock is a really nice class 3 handicap, it looks a race full of fairly unexposed types that will undoubtedly make progress as the season unfolds, I'd be amazed if it wasn't a race capable of throwing up a few winners in the immediate future. However it's today's winner I covet, with the Mark Johnston trained Bathos my idea of a horse that is miles better than his seasonal bow on tapeta at Wolverhampton 6 weeks ago. I personally struggle to get this trainer right, as he has that many horses in different yards he seems to come in and out of form as regular as clockwork. Yesterday's offering produced a couple of winners and a few frame efforts, which could be an indicator his string(s) are about to come back in form, but that remark as speculative as panning for gold. Bathos looked highly progressive in his 2yrold campaign, winning 4 nurseries off the trot, ascending from class 5 to a class 2 contest within those runs, all at around a mile on turf and all on a decent surface, adding best part of 2 stone to his mark in the process. He did disappoint in soft ground on his final start of the season last year, a combination of soft ground and a busy campaign a couple of excuses that could have accounted for such a run. His seasonal reappearance at Wolverhampton was in a fairly warm race, but nothing went right for him on that occasion. Having reared as the gates opened and took his time to get into stride by the time they had ran a furlong he was approximately 10 lengths adrift at the rear of the field, but most importantly he was 20 or so lengths off the speed which was being set by stablemate Monsarrat. He took plenty of encouraging to make his ground by Adrian Nicholls, but did consent to do so and as they passed the 3 pole made a huge move around the wide outside to sit within two or three lengths of the pace as the straightened up for home. Taking into consideration the ground he made up in such a short space of time it was understandable his race was run when they leveled up, Adrian Nicholls merely giving him a hand ride up to the line, finishing an extremely credible 7th, beaten just over 6 lengths. That should have put him spot on for today, and is nicely berthed to attack early (providing he jumps on terms) as he does look a horse that’s happy bowling along in front or at least helping a decent pace along. Paul Mulrennan takes over who has a very decent record for the yard, and is 1-1 when riding Bathos, who could be set to resume progress at quite rewarding odds. The Victoria Cup is always a devilishly difficult race to workout, but having looked at the race I'm happy to keep on side another notebook horse, the Sir Michael Stoute trained Grand Inquisitor. He was quite progressive last season as a 3 yrold, running in some well contested handicaps at the back end of summer and not beaten too far in those contests, with the winners and close up horses in each of those respective events looking capable of winning pattern races. His recent comeback was at Newmarket in the mud, and having been outpaced a little in the early exchanges just could not get involved at the business end, wherever Ryan Moore tried to navigate a passage the route was blocked by a horse coming in or across him on at least 3 or 4 occasions, as a result was spared a hard ride and came home under hand riding a never nearer 6th. Judging by yesterday evenings straight mile the place to be drawn at Ascot looks centre, so in (19) he looks reasonably berthed to be on the ground in the middle of the course that all jockeys seemed to want to be on yesterday. In the absence of Ryan Moore who is riding for team O'Brien at Lingfield Ted Duran gets the nod, but I'm not really a great Ted Durcan fan. However he is at least having plenty of success from the nice opportunities that have been presented to him by Sir Michael, who does seem to have his horses in the most sensational form presently, Grand Inquisitor could well be set to continue both parties good run of form. GL if you get involved. |
|
By:
A right-up two die four!
![]() |
|
By:
As always I wish you the best of luck mate.
Excellent write up as usual. I'm with Buckstay at 14s in the Vic, hopefully Spencer will be on a good day and the horse will produce its devastating turn of foot. |
|
By:
GL Polab, thought off a BHA rating of 107 it's going to be tough, but not impossible. Just wondering who would have been the prefered jockey, Jamie Spencer or Jim Crowley? I thought Jim suceeded Jamie as 1st retained jockey for Mrs Fitri Hay.... although he may have family loyalties riding for his sister-in-law on The Warrior.
|
|
By:
Not sure on the arrangements Rob, but Spencer gave it a great ride last time it won in Oct, would be happy with a similar outcome.
All the best. |
|
By:
If you wait till 13.45 Rob, you'll miss the race.
|
|
By:
Gl ROB
You see Bathos very similarly to me today, I have a stats based (placement/trainer profiling) Mark Johnston thread and though there are a couple of slight concerns with this horse, the placement looks decent for this runner to me. fingers crossed for us ![]() |
|
By:
PHS
, hope it doesn't take him those 5minutes to finish the race .Everything crossed here stridingedge, GL |
|
By:
dead heat 5th grand inquisitor...could have been worse.
![]() |
|
By:
Totally agree KIW, pleased to be getting my money back on a horse I thought was 6th
![]() |
|
By:
![]() |
|
By:
Come on Norfolk elaborate, I'm no good at bloody catchphrase!
![]() |
|
By:
Arrange these words into a well known phrase or saying, in 30 seconds!
Moment barn at f*cking I hit door a couldn't the! ![]() |
|
By:
Times up!
![]() |
|
By:
Where's he gone?
![]() |
|
By:
Harsh. But fair
![]() |
|
By:
He knows I'm only joking!
Seriously, I consider him to be the best judge on the forum, well second best! ![]() |
|
By:
![]() ![]() now if you had of posted a cows arse and a shovel I'd have clicked straight away , I know it's all about the "long game", but I think I'm going to apply for an extension all the same![]() |
|
By:
You better hurry up, I ain't got that long to live!
Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! |
|
By:
Result bet(s)77,78 & 79.
Bathos Un Pl -2pts(-£20) Grand Inquisitor DH 5th(cash back) 0pts Double Lost -1pt (-£10) Running total -51.5pts (-£515) Bet 80. 2pts E.W. Lucky Beggar 14.10 York. 16-1 generally , use BOG firm. The sprinters head to post for the first big field handicap on the York card, with plenty old favourites set to do battle for best part of 16K. Following a sprinter in form can quite often be the easiest and safest way of formulating a selection(s) in these tricky conundrums, with plenty today bringing some nice recent winning and placed form to the table, but as a consequence plenty don't look particularly that well handicapped in relation to their winning chances today(Imo). I backed Lucky Beggar in a handicap at Doncaster towards the back end of last season, he's been in my notebook for quite some time now, kept there waiting for the right time, place and circumstances to get back involved with this horse, That time by jove is now. The notes I have detailed on my tracker are as follows... Flat straight track, distance 5F, springtime on decent ground??.. The treble is up in that respect, the cherries on the cake being that this horse is now contesting off a career low handicap mark of just 89(started last season on 104), there has been a crack apprentice booked in Ed Greatrex to relieve the horse of a further 5 lbs, and Charlie Hills has had 5 winners and 2 placed from his last 8 runners, the only thing that tempers my enthusiasm slightly is the draw(I'd have prefered him to be berthed5or6 boxes to his left, but hopefully he will race centre then drift over). Lucky Beggar has also shaped as if he's coming very much to the boil form wise, having been patiently ridden over 6F at Kempton on his seasonal reappearance at the beginning of April he merely kept on under a hand ride without troubling the judge, then approximately 4 weeks ago over 6F at Headquarters shot off like a scalded cat, isolated on the far side but had pulled what looked like 5 or 6 lengths clear of the remainder on the stand side as they approached 2 out. He was still leading just inside the final furlong, but as you would expect lost many places very quickly close home because of those earlier exertions, a run miles better than his finishing position would indicate. 16-1 looks a really decent E.W. poke today, I've backed him accordingly and hoping for a massive run from him today. GL if you get involved. |
|
By:
If it's any consolation, I have Lucky Beggar top-rated albeit by just 1 lb!
Good Luck, always! ![]() |
|
By:
Cracking write up,I agree also about the draw scenario hopefully he can trap out and edge a bit left he's definitely the value play at 16's and I think Royal Birth will be a big danger though he is now priced up right.Gl today
![]() |
|
By:
Result bet 80.
Lucky Beggar Un Pl -4pts (-£40) Running total -55.5pts (-£555) Bet 81 & 82. E.W. Lucky 15 (£1 E.W. = 3pts in total) Kimberella 16.00 Thirsk 5-1 Manatee Bay 16.35 Thirsk 16-1 Imperial Aviator 16.30 Newbury 7-2 Arthenus 17.35 Newbury 7-2 1/2pt E.W. Manatee Bay 16-1 generally, use BOG Any realistic punter involved in horse racing knows a poor spell of form is inevitable, discipline and patience is of paramount importance when going through such a prolonged unprofitable period. Having taken the decision this season to concentrate on higher level handicaps, the right opportunities for me have been fairly sporadic, normally Saturdays and festival mid week racing are what I now find myself concentrating on. During such barren periods like the one I now find myself in approaching races seems that much more laboured, processing and decision making when analysing form is always questioned that little bit more, possibly down to the confidence factor. When it gets to this stage I quite often shut up shop and give myself 2 or 3 weeks away form the sport, this purely just to give myself a break from the old routine and recharge the batteries. Saying that I have a notebook horse running today, also I've been drawn to a few others who's chance is reflected in their respective odds, so with confidence low in relation to finding winners and the awareness that my betting bank is not in a position to absorb a big points loss today I've decided to just throw a few points at an E.W. lucky 15, not everyone's cup of tea but It's a bet I quite like form time to time. A small addendum to this bet will be an additional E.W. single on my notebook horse, who I feel is well worth backing as a stand alone bet in relation to his double figured price. And on that note I will start with said horse, Manatee Bay, who is trained by David Nicholls, and when it comes to training sprinters Imo he's still up there with the best of them despite the class of animal he now tends to have in his yard. Manatee Bay seems to be a horse that is adaptable regards ground conditions, but he does seem to be at home over the quick surface he will undoubtedly encounter at Thirsk today, 9.3 on the going stick to be suggesting nothing but this type of ground. He is also a sprinter that has been fairly consistent in his 3 seasons to date, making pleasing enough improvement in each of those campaigns, consistently finishing off each with a higher rating than when starting out. During his last 2 campaigns he has improved significantly for his seasonal reappearance, a close 2nd and a 1st on his second start back, ironically both on the same mark as was his reappearance run and both around this time in May( the win over today's C/D). Today, just like Lto he is contesting off 77, with that run miles better than the result, having been much too far out of his ground as a result of his poor start and being taken in behind he made up many lengths from 2 out to the furlong pole, never in a position to get at the leaders and finished his race off with running still to give. Today he looks to be drawn on the right side of the track, which Imo has been 4-5 lengths quicker in recent meetings, and has plenty of horses around him over there almost guaranteed to run the race to suit him, Franny Norton also positive ( On board for 3 from 4 of his wins) and looks to have been underestimated by the books at 16-1. For obvious reasons I'm also a fan of Kimberella in the previous contest, despite the yard throwing three at the race I'm of the opinion he is the one to be on. When winning Lto he did so with more authority than the eventual winning distance would suggest, beating a couple of horses that were in the form of their lives, looking to settle that contest more efficiently than the 5lb penalty he incurred for that victory , and Imo still has room to maneuver in relation to his current mark. Franny Norton again on board, with Kimberella also given a kind stall to embark from, where he should once again be given a nice tow into the contest and hopefully be produced to get involved at the finish. In the London Gold Cup handicap at Newbury there looks a very well assembled field of 3yrolds, but the one that I really think could be well ahead of his mark could be the Roger Charlton trained Imperial Aviator. He has the potential to be absolutely thrown in off 85 today, with the horse he beat when pulling well clear of the remainder in a reasonable maiden winning his maiden Nto by an effortless 8 lengths, that horse of Sir Michael Stoute's is entered in the Derby & the Edward the VII at Royal Ascot. Imperial Aviator is obviously a nice horse in his own right, and on the face of it looks well treated, but against such an unexposed progressive set of horses it's arguable that his current price suggests value, regardless of that he looks to hold plenty of potential and should give another good account of himself today. In the conclusion to the Newbury card I'll be hoping Arthenus is good enough to help my wager along in some capacity, and could be set to resume last seasons excellent progress in the handicapping ranks. His 6th Lto on his seasonal reappearance is better than both the beaten distance and finishing position would suggest over that 9F at Newmarket, having been in behind a wall of horses as the race developed passing the cutaway(2 1/2F out), Fred Tylicki managed to get some clear daylight to go at and the horse responded well, lengthening nicely enough as he was sent for the judge. However his momentum was halted and daylight taken by his stablemate and eventual winner at a crucial point in those closing stages, Luke Morris merely compounding the issue by keeping him in behind on another of today's rivals Strong Steps, it's debatable as to where he would have finished but it would have been closer than where he did. Ground and trip looks fine, with the fair galloping expanse of Newbury also a positive regarding his chance, again at his price it's very debatable regards value, but I personally think he can go well in relation to his current mark. My bet(s) were placed earlier with B365, BOG, I'm aware some have now drifted but I'm on at prices detailed above. GL if you get involved |
|
By:
Sincerely, Good Luck!
![]() |
|
By:
Cheers Norfolk, well and truly needed I may add
![]() |
|
By:
Presumably 30pts in total Rob.
Agree on Arthenus. Fancy it but doesn't look value, and the drying ground, re-forecast as Good - GSIP is against it. |
|
By:
All the best with your selections today therobster hopefully Manatee Bay will be on a going day massive price if he is
|
|
By:
Well done with Imperial Aviator, robster
|
|
By:
Well, that was awful from Arthenus. Never went a yard.
|
|
By:
Keep at it Rob mate. As long as the bank is in place then no need for any drastic action. You have done it for years so no reason to think the year can't be turned around.
|
|
By:
robster you need a clean slate, it might be mad for a page with -55.5pts but we want you exclusively at onthesnaff.co.uk, we will be live by the end of the month, let me know
|
|
By:
Result bet(s) 81 & 82.
Lucky 15 -2pts (-£20) Manatee Bay -1pt (-£10) Running total - 58.5pts (-£585) Bet 83,84 & 85. 1pt E.W. Mukaynis 15.45 Epsom 14-1 generally 1pt E.W. Joey's Destiny 17.50 Epsom 16-1 generally 1/2 pt E.W. double Due to my poor form I decided to give myself a little break away from betting, which I quite often do when things aren't going my way, and during this time I've quite enjoyed watching racing without having any particular interest or opinions on the races. It's fair to say in doing so I've accrued plenty of notebook horses for various different reasons, but many in there are horses I think to be on handy enough marks, with their finishing positions during some of those contests better than the bare form would suggest. In that respect I'm willing to play one in each of the sprints on the Epsom card, Mukaynis in the Dash and Joey's Destiny in the lucky last. I'm certain Mukaynis will have gone into many a notebook / tracker off the back of his Chester run behind Kimberella, which did not really appear to go to plan right from the outset. That day at Chester he appeared to have an extremely good draw, but as the gates opened Mukaynis jumped as he started, that split cost him half a length at the gate, missing it in a 5F sprint is bad enough, but to do it at Chester where horses automatically come out running left to the rail only means one thing, you will be shuffled back and have to suffer. In a nutshell that is what happened, Mukaynis in the blink of an eye found himself back in the pack 5 lengths or so off the speed. He did however have the natural speed and ability to quickly get back into a more promising position just of the speed as they turned for home, travelling kindly on the bridle a furlong or so off the pace, looking poised to reel in the pacesetters as he liked. However the bad luck continued for Shane Gary, now finding himself flanked by horses both to the right, left and ahead, with the gap he was hankering for to his right simply not materialising, thereafter merely hand riding Mukayis to the line. He is drawn in and around pace a plenty on the usually favoured stand side, with Seeking Magic, Caspian Prince and Kimberella all no doubt wanting to get on with things, and despite once again in that respect being a hostage to fortune hopefully the gaps will appear for Mukaynis to exploit, who will handle conditions just fine. Joey's Destiny has been left in my tracker for a while now, but having watched his latest race at Windsor at the back end of last month I simply had to include him today. You have to go back a couple of years for his last win, but at least has worked his way back down to within a pound of that mark in respect of the handicap, and shaped Lto as though very much coming to hand. In the early stages of that 6F contest a few jocks appeared to be looking for a lead, as a result the first couple of furlongs did not appear that strong for such a contest, not much of a help for a hold up horse of his nature. As they headed under half way Joey's Destiny was still stone dead last, a good couple of lengths off the back of the main body of runners, but still travelling very kindly for Liam Keniry who looked in no particular hurry. The way the race developed as they quickened on the run for home was no help what so ever, the rail route he waited for closed and never reopened, Keniry switched in and around runners but by the time any real daylight appeared the race was all but over with Joey's Destiny yet to begin, but did consent to run on very nicely, serving notice that his return to the winners enclosure may not be too far away. I'm sure the pace he'll get today will be far more generous than that of the Windsor contest, and the additional ease in the ground another welcoming factor, hopefully he will also get the gaps required to run his race, if so he is capable of being involved. GL if you get involved |
|
By:
GL therobster27 I think Joey's Destiny is a good ew bet today your reasonings are spot on I found the dash too hard but GL with Mukaynis
|
|
By:
Good to see you back Robster. GL today
|
|
By:
Result bet(s)83, 84 & 85.
Mukaynis Pl + 2.5pts Joey's Destiny Unpl - 2pts Double Lost - 1pt Running total -59pts (-£590) Bet 86. 1pt E.W. Long Awaited 14.55 Goodwood, 12-1 generally use a BOG firm. In the veteran sprint on today's Goodwood card likely favourite Pettochside looks short enough at the head of the market all things considered, but there's no denying he has an excellent record over C/D ahead of this race. However the mark he contests off could be a significant stumbling block regarding his chances, having contested 12 races with marks ranging from 71-75 prior to today's race he's only managed to get placed once, and has never won off the back of a victory when his mark has been increased. At his price stable switcher Long Awaited makes more appeal, having been claimed recently via a race at Wolverhampton out of the David Barron yard, today he makes his debut for Conor Dore. His far from consistent profile means he's not a horse to place maximum faith in, but is very capable when on a going day and his mark has worked it's way down to an all time career low of just 81. For a sprinter of his age he's still got fairly low mileage, and is just the type of cast off horse this yard excels with. Despite not winning at Goodwood he's at least shown a liking for the C/D by running a few nice races from as many tries, those contests much better than the event he tackles today. He's a horse that really appreciates a race that falls apart and coming through horses, so looking at today's line up it's a race that's surely going to be run at a break neck pace that will undoubtedly suit his hold up style of racing. I'm certain he still has enough ability to figure at this level on turf, if so he could have a say in this with his fair share of luck in running. GL if you get involved. |
|
By:
Result bet 86.
Long Awaited Un Pl -2pts Running total -61pts (-£610) Bet(s) 87,88 & 89. 1pt E.W. Red Tycoon 17.20 York 8-1 generally 1pt E.W. Spice Fair 17.05 Sandown 12-1 generally 1/2 pt E.W. Double Use a BOG firm. As usual there is plenty top class racing around the country on a Saturday, from a punting perspective with so much choice it can be hard deciding where and what to play. There is also the added uncertainty of underfoot conditions, the type of showers that have been evident up and down the country this week very much the ones that can change going very quickly. Having browsed plenty of races I've decided to go with a couple of notebook horses, who run in the lucky last at each of their respective venues. In the 17.20 at York Red Tycoon looks to be working his way back to form, and should get today's contest ran to suit his style of racing, with the handicapper also showing some gradual mercy to his mark, 79 making him interesting enough in this particular race despite having yet to taste victory in any sort of handicap. Both of his last couple of starts have been better than the finishing result would tell you, travelling well off a generous pace on his penultimate start when a little short of room before consenting to merely keep on in the closing stages under a hand ride, but it's his latest run over 7F a Catterick that has made me think he's coming to the boil. Having be fairly tardily away that day he picked his way through the field nicely enough to eventually hold on for 3rd, but had no real chance of getting to the couple that finished in front of him, who both could have been quite nicely handicapped it has to be said. It's arguable he's nicely drawn today, but is certain to get a furious toe into the race considering the line up, and David Barron has booked Rown Scott to ease his already diminishing mark by a further 7lbs, who is 2 from 5 for the yard in the last 12 months, boasting a tidy +£16.50 to a £1 level stake. 8-1 seems a solid enough E.W. price all things considered Sandowns conclusion to their card is a 14F handicap, with Spice Fair no stranger to this race, having been 2nd and 1st during the last 3 runnings. At the ripe old age of 9 you'd hardly expect any major improvement from this gelding, but in the spring took his hurdle mark to a whole new level, and Imo despite his advancing years holds the ability to go close today should things drop right for him. It looks for all the world that this race has been the target off the back of that solid spring hurdling campaign, being given a couple of month off to freshen up and then an extremely considerate pipe opener after that break in a fairly recent spin at Salisbury. That race would not have been run to suit him, with the first 3 home filling those positions from the drop of a flag, a sure fire indicator those three very much had things their own way during the contest. Despite those at the head of the race quickening in the straight, at the back of the telly Steve Drowne looked to be giving Spice Fair a mountain to climb, but eventually Drowne did realise it was a race and not a canter on the gallops, his mount running on without being allowed to threaten those that had always been handy. Tactically it might be a similar scenario today, but there are a few that like to go forward which may suggest a more even honest pace to sit in behind off. Frankie rides for the first time, but he seems to be enjoying a renaissance in his career presently and wouldn't need to do anything dramatic today to give Spice Fair a better ride than he received Lto, I'm sure there's a big run in this horse today considering his love of the course, especially over today's trip, who better than man of the moment Dettori to tease out a decent performance. 12-1 far too big with 3 places. Good luck if you get involved.. I was on with B365 early this morning, however I do realise the price has changed for Spice Far on account of non runners (now only 2 places). |
|
By:
Spice Fair also a non runner in last
![]() |
|
By:
Hope the tide turns soon Robster.
|