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By:
duffy
When: 05 Aug 17 03:33
and a Ramsden one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etKD36cwqDY
By:
doorman99
When: 05 Aug 17 13:26
Wondersobright, Harry did lots of Cheltenham preview nights in his day, saw him at Exeter, Nicholls was on the same panel chaired by Paddy Power, no holding back from Harry and prob swears a bit too much for TV! Excellent it was though Nicholls gave him some funny looks on occasion. Can't wait for the book, hopefully if his goes well El Tel will do one too!
By:
Capt__F
When: 09 Aug 17 00:18
ttt
By:
Ravage Again
When: 09 Aug 17 00:40
I remember being on betfair watching the market when the million quid lay bet showed up pink on betfair

The dog won easy that heat but did nothing afterwards

Do not think it won even another round
By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 09 Aug 17 01:37
shopping in the metrocentre lol

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smirnoff2therescue
When: 09 Aug 17 01:41
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By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 09 Aug 17 02:01
took a while....and I don't smoke......

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By:
smirnoff2therescue
When: 09 Aug 17 02:08
apologies but I cant pick a favourite...#




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By:
Ramruma
When: 10 Aug 17 23:44
Publication date 7 Seotember according to the Racing Post shop:

https://shop1.racingpost.com/products/gambling-for-life-by-harry-findlay-pre-order-now

IMAGINE what it would be like to turn your back on the nine-to-five drudgery of normal working life and risk everything you’ve ever had on the fate of a horse race or the outcome of a ball game.

In the gambling fraternity, Harry Findlay has earned legendary status. He has been skint dozens of times, won over £20 million and spent just as much. But he will not change. Fearless and formidable, bullish and bombastic, there is no one in the gambling game who can match Harry’s style and seismic impact.

In his much-awaited book, Harry recounts the mind-boggling tales behind the thousand and million pound multi-sport bets that will make ordinary punters shudder – including the day he wagered £2.5 million on a rugby match.

It is a remarkable life story of ups and downs. Aged 21 years old, he served nearly a year in some of Her Majesty’s toughest jails. Who’d have thought he would go on to own Big Fella Thanks, winner of the Derby at Clonmel and the most famous dog to come out of Ireland – and be part owner of the legendary racehorse Denman, who carried his colours to Gold Cup glory.

Most fascinating of all, Harry tells how he has survived and continues to work his magic in the gambling world.

Published 7th September.
By:
Capt__F
When: 10 Aug 17 23:53
Harry The CatCool
By:
Ramruma
When: 11 Aug 17 07:34
Winner of the Derby at Clonmel? Ball game?
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 11 Aug 17 08:12
Coursing Derby (Greyhounds)
By:
McCoy Carp
When: 11 Aug 17 15:39
He he is/was a winning punter, how did he manage to get £2.5 million on a rugby match, when it seems everyone on here, winners or losers have some experience of being restricted?
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Aug 17 15:58
it was the rugby (union) world cup outright market, high global liquidity
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Aug 17 15:58
plus I'm sure they were something like 4/11 if I remember rightly
By:
Rider
When: 11 Aug 17 15:59
didnt he fly to some asian country to have a big bet on black caviar? he'll probably say in the book, what i do know is he said before that rugby world cup he would be having a big bet on the all blacks and then revealed after how much he had lost, most people on here just tell you how good they are after the event
By:
Rider
When: 11 Aug 17 16:00
4/7 i think wonders
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Aug 17 16:01
ok cheers rider
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 11 Aug 17 17:54
We're all going to gambling hell. It is the new big thing. On-line poker, e-casinos, spread betting, Flat racing, jump racing, the Premiership, scratch cards, exchanges, bookmakers, who's going to win I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here, the Lottery: the proliferation of means to part a fool from their money has never been so great, nor so condoned. It's in, it's alluring, it's addictive, it's dangerous. But since we're all going to do it anyway, we might as well learn how to do it properly.

So enter the lair of professional gambler Harry Findlay, well known in racing circles as the owner of Cheltenham fancies Desert Quest and Denman. "Sorry," he said, flapping his hand, "it's a semi-kennel in here. Big Fella is a legend, but he stinks."
Big Fella is a large, torpid greyhound lying at his master's feet. But he won the Derby in 1999 and, aromatically-challenged as he is, Findlay owes him and loves him. So they are ensconced together in a room at the side of Findlay's lovely house near Bath that he shares with his wife and two daughters, watching six television screens that are showing tennis and racing simultaneously. "Go on Feddy, my son," yells Findlay to a screen featuring Roger Federer, the player on whom our gambler won £300,000 at the US Open in 2005, having staked £400,000. "And I had another £100,000 on him when Agassi broke him to go 4-2 up in the third set of the final because the crowd over-stepped the mark. I could see what that did to Fed. It's the first time I've seen him angry. He just absolutely tore Agassi's head off after that." Federer won 6-3, 2-6, 7-6, 6-1 and Findlay won another round of his battle to stay alive and solvent.
Note, Findlay backed Federer odds-on. That means laying a stake greater than your expected winnings, in case you are new to this lark. Many people think this is a silly way to proceed. They think it is a great risk for a little return. But not Findlay.
"It's the biggest myth in racing! It's the biggest myth in life!" he yells vehemently. "That is my golden rule. Do not be afraid to back odds-on. It's a myth perpetrated by bookmakers and ignorant punters. Cowards! When people say they never bet odds-on what they're really saying is they can't count or they're a coward. They're afraid of the risk factor.
"These football managers that bet £20 million a year are not a surprise to me. I lay out literally millions every weekend. I'm not trying to be flash. That's just the way it is. There's no point in me betting small. It's all about knowing the right price and how good you are at staking.
"I have to win to eat. It's all I do. Like everyone else, I don't back loads of winners. I just back a few more winners than losers. No one makes a good living out of betting in hundreds. You aren't going to win big betting small."
One suspects Findlay, 45 (or 44, he can't remember), does nothing small. Not talking, living, eating, betting. He is a large man with a marvellously colourful vocabulary and a steady outpouring of top-volume advice. It all began at 15 when he started playing poker dice at school.
Why? "Because it was better than f****** biology," he said with a guffaw of laughter. "I've never had a proper job since." He paused to shout: "Go on Feddy, wind it up, son" and waved one of nine remote controls on his desk at the screen. It didn't work. He tried another one. That didn't either. "I don't know anything about electronics," he explained. Mobiles are ringing. "Hallo," he says sharply into them (no time for formalities). In an instant, he stakes the price of my mortgage on a tennis match.
At various points in his life, it has all gone horribly wrong.
"Don't mention Martina Hingis to me," he cried. "Ruined my life when she lost to Iva Majoli in the French Open final. Wiped me off the face of the earth. Three or four times I've been all-in. Milk Cup. I remember that. Me and my mum borrowed 1,200 quid – which was a lot of money 20 years ago – to put on Watford to beat Everton in the cup because we knew Everton would play a reserve side. We had £650 on the draw and £550 on Watford to win. We were both at the game to watch. Watford were 1-0 up in the 89th minute and Everton won 2-1. As my mum opened the car door afterwards, she said: 'What are we going to do now, son?' We were penniless. That's what it was like in the old days.
"There wasn't the instant information around either. You had to try and find out the news. Like the toss at cricket matches. That was vital because it was a massive advantage to bat second when there was rain about. I was down at Portsmouth for a Hampshire v Worcester match. We had a couple of grand to lump on Worcester to win at 2-1 on. But we had to know Worcester had won the toss before we'd risk it because that was our last two grand in the world. So the captains, Phil Neale and Mark Nicholas, have come out to the crease to toss up and I've actually gone out to the crease with them because by the time it was announced it would be too late to get a bet on.
"Nicholas tossed up and Neale called wrong. I've seen it before anyone else. They're both behind me because I've got there first. I've shouted out: 'Oh f*** it!' and Mark Nicholas turned to me and said: 'Who the effing hell are you?' I said: 'Don't worry about it mate' and went back to bed. I'm telling you this because those are the sort of lengths you'd have to go to in the old days."
We are deep into lovable rogue territory here. He may own several racehorses with Paul Nicholls and Philip Hobbs, but he is hardly your land-owning gentry nor your Russian oligarch for that matter. He is sitting here in blue slippers, jeans and a stripy green polo shirt going bonkers at the screens upon which Tony McCoy is riding Yaboya (10-11 favourite) in the 2.10 at Market Rasen.
"I've got so much on this horse – more than I wanted – that's talking to you. I want this one to win. Go on, Tony! This is a man I f****** love. Put him up with the Federers. Put him up with the Tiger Woodses. He's a legend. He's the strongest man, pound for pound, I've ever met in my life. Scarily strong.
"Oh god, there's Pretty Star! Oh, don't let mine get beat. Oh, that will kill me! Go on the King. GO ON TONY. One more time. Oh, I've lumped on this! Just JUMP IT! Pheww. Thank God." The phones ring. Blood pressure lowers. Normal service is resumed. The computer screen attuned to Betfair prices is blinking merrily next to him. He prefers the exchanges to bookmakers any day.
"The bottom line is, bookmakers don't allow anyone to win. If you win they'll close your account. If you win big in cash, they won't take your bet. It's immoral, but there's no point in prolonging that argument and upsetting the bookmakers because they can't stand me anyway. I stopped betting on horses completely until the exchanges, where you bet punter against punter. It is physically impossible for anyone to make big money on the horses if they are not playing the exchanges. Anyone telling you they can is a liar. It's a myth.
"I was a bookmaker for one week when I was 18. I couldn't do it. A bloke called John, used to work in a factory all day, a mill, came in to bet £20 on a dog. He had sawdust up his nose, in his ears, on his head. He made chairs for nine hours every day. I ended up wanting the dog to win. I lasted one week. I've always been a punter, always will.
"It's all about where you find your buzz. It's all about adrenalin and controlling it. It's done me many times, made me so skint. It's taken my freedom and, even worse at times, my self-respect. But I love it. I love what I do.
"I'm very anti-religious. I'm an atheist. So the way I see it, it's an innings, innit? You've got to crack away. I want to play like Kevin Pietersen, not Chris Tavare. Totally mystifies me, religion. When I was 12, I was 100 per cent sure the three kings were con men, and they were grafting with an astronomer. It's obviously a get-up, isn't it? I think it's total madness. And pensions!"
Don't get him started on pensions. No part of him approves of putting money away on the off-chance you might see it with knobs on at the age of 65. "I mean, you've got to live to be 65 anyway, and that's only an 8-13 chance.
"I think it's mental that so many normal people have so much respect for people with bigger houses and bigger cars. They see that as a form of success. My respect goes to people like nurses, teachers and doctors. I think 90 per cent of people with loads of money are either crooks or working too hard." Phones ring again. "It doesn't stop. It's madness," said Findlay.
"Hallo." He dealt swiftly with the matter in hand. He resumed his theorising. "You see, the thing with Federer is he's a cash machine. He's virtually unplayable. They say he might one day be the greatest player of all time. WHAT? If Federer ain't the greatest player ever, I'll put my desk up my…Hallo," he said, grabbing his mobile again.
There are more golden rules. "Winning's amazing. But you start to feel invincible. As soon as you let your guard down in this game, or take any liberties, your head is sawn straight off. It's all about maths and you have to be right all the time. By the same token, when you can't back a winner, when you think you're completely useless, you have to keep your equilibrium. I know all the pitfalls. I've got my weaknesses. I know I like a front-runner too much.
"But you need to be aggressive, be bold when you're winning. Don't start hedging and saving. When you win you need to win big, because when you lose you do your b*******.
"Listen, bookmakers' credit, debt, causes turmoil and ruins people's lives. It done me as a teenager. Credit is vile. The way bookmakers operate credit should be outlawed. It opens doors to everything: trouble, lies, prison, where else do you want to go?
"I think there will be a 1,000-fold increase in people going to prison for gambling debts. I think we're already seeing it and women are more vulnerable than men. They've suddenly got the adrenalin of gambling but it's not the healthy little tutti-frutti world that the TV presenters talk about."
Nevertheless, we are not leaving until he makes our fortune. His own Desert Quest is a non-runner at Ascot today because of the rain. He is not unhappy about this. "It means I can stay at home and lump on to the Aussies to beat Great Britain in the rugby league and Federer, who's an absolute certainty to win the Singapore Masters. And don't pay your mortgage for a year. Just put it on New Zealand to win the next Rugby World Cup. If they lose it this time, I will absolutely go down a coalmine."
By:
xmoneyx
When: 02 Sep 17 07:12
Please be advised that we have a revised delivery date for the items you ordered

Harry Findlay "Gambling For Life"
Estimated arrival date: September 13 2017
By:
Ramruma
When: 02 Sep 17 08:08
Who is the 13th September delivery from?
By:
xmoneyx
When: 02 Sep 17 09:11
Amazon pre order
By:
Ramruma
When: 02 Sep 17 09:56
Last week Amazon finally sent me a book I'd pre-ordered which had been published at the end of July.

I do wonder if publishers delay supplying Amazon for a few days so they can sell a few copies at a higher price, though I've not researched the matter so could be barking up the wrong tree. But I see that as well as slipping the delivery date, Amazon has also knocked £5 off the price, so someone is making less profit.
By:
grumpyjim
When: 02 Sep 17 10:31
only success  I  have come across  ...now in my .... 75 th .... ..YEAR  ..
the
Irish bloodstock people who went from Strength to Strength ..   got money at gambling horses and moved on to . BREEDING .. . still making loads of money every year . world wide organisation ..
NOW THAT IS A REAL STORY .   GO BACK OVER .............. 60 .......PLUS YEARS . on this one .. AND STILL RUNNING TODAY ..  ??   SOME ARE NO LONGER WITH US  ...  have died off yet a few still in the GAME  MANY NOW OFFSPRING OF THE ORIGINAL  .OWNERS   and   FOUNDERS .. .  ..?? ............... WE ALL KNOW THE ......... VARIOUS  .. COLOURS .. ..........AND THE NAME ..   very  ..much   at  the forefront of racing as it is today ................. HAVE A MATE THAT GAMBLED HIS DOGS SAME PLACES AS HARRY FINDLAY .. was so quick was unhappy if any chalk remained on a bookies   board ..  IF  his dog was OFF ..   .. he is in his EIGHTYS . ??  and a legend low key .. also  SCOTTISH .. every other house kept  GREYHOUNDS and  TRACKS  A PLENTY .. IN THEM DAYS ..  even across the road .... OPPOSITE  ...EACH OTHER  .........  .  TWO BOB ..AND   HALF A CROWN   ....GOOD  WAGER ... THEN .. ??  hence 100 ... TO     ...6 ...7  ..8 ...9 ..  were odd to half a crown  DAYS GONE BY ..    GREAT DAYS ..GONE BY .. >>> ?  SADLY MOST LAYERS FROM THESE DAYS .. ARE .. LONG GONE FROM  THIS LIFE OF GAMBLING ..   rest in peace .. WIZARDS OF ODDS IN THEM DAYS .. ? WILL ORDER THE BOOK TODAY ..
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 02 Sep 17 10:42
And don't pay your mortgage for a year. Just put it on New Zealand to win the next Rugby World Cup.

Cry
By:
dunlaying
When: 02 Sep 17 11:48
Credit is bad he says. His method was knock on the losers and draw on the winners.
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Sep 17 03:59
Out today and Amazon is ... out of stock already.
By:
liberator of the oppressed
When: 07 Sep 17 06:58
Without a shadow of doubt he is up there with the very best we all wish we could have done what he did what a life for me mind you was the love of that dog. Some achievement what a hound not to be under - estimated. Brain and a heart are extremely rare commodities.Good on you H.
By:
Deltâ
When: 07 Sep 17 08:38
book out today
By:
kavvie
When: 07 Sep 17 10:09
i met the man a few times.mostly in clonmel.a decent gent of the highest order. i actually had a greyhound that beat his bigfellathanks   one day in fortunate circumstances!!  hope the book is a best seller.i look forward to reading it.
By:
stewarty b
When: 07 Sep 17 10:19
Can you buy it in the shops as opposed to Amazon please?
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Sep 17 11:11
You can buy it from the Racing Post. I had a quick look in a couple of London bookshops yesterday but could not see it -- but that was the day before official publication.
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Sep 17 11:45
Odd if demand has been underestimated. I wonder if some enterprising individual bought up a job lot.
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Sep 17 12:55
Still out of stock on Amazon but they've put the price back up. Devil
By:
grayhawk
When: 07 Sep 17 13:06
Been in Waterstones this morning but couldn't see it....would have asked when they were getting it in stock but there was a decent sized queue and was pushed for time.
By:
tomhunt
When: 07 Sep 17 14:03
click on 7 new from....

Arriving 11 Sep - 14 Sep
Not yet dispatched
Track package

Gambling For Life
Harry Findlay
Sold by: Speedyhen Ltd
£8.97
By:
sofiakenny
When: 07 Sep 17 14:17
Does he still smoke marooanna?
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Sep 17 14:35
Racing Post shop has it in stock. I might wait for the kindle version or Christmas, whichever comes sooner.
By:
Ramruma
When: 07 Sep 17 14:50
Any Daily Mirror readers about? The Mirror might have extracts of the Findlay book but I can't now find where I saw that, so could be wrong.
By:
Deltâ
When: 07 Sep 17 14:52
Advert for the book


no extracts to date Rmaruma ..
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