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By:
happylady
When: 30 May 13 13:41
very interesting thread mike good luck with your system
alec lewis is standing at brough park
By:
johnnywilkinson
When: 30 May 13 13:42
YEAH ,IT AINT BEEN THAT CLEVER TO BE HONEST LAST 7-8 MONTHS ,BUT IVE HAD A CHANGE AROUND IN ME ATTITUDE AND HOPEFULLY STARTED TO CHANGE IT AROUND ,NOT FORTUNES BUT JUST STOPPED THE ROT
By:
wee eck
When: 30 May 13 13:45
happylady, I can assure you that Alec Lewis is not standing at Brough Park,

Alec has been brown bread for around 10 years, his son Paul makes the book at Brough Park.
By:
mr crisp
When: 30 May 13 13:46
alec lewis must be a good age now
By:
johnnywilkinson
When: 30 May 13 13:47
HES FKKKIN DEAD CRISPPPEEEE
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 30 May 13 13:47
my mate used to clerk for the lewises at brough, died a few years back in his thirties
By:
mr crisp
When: 30 May 13 13:48
i suppose that proves i was right in theory wee eck
By:
johnnywilkinson
When: 30 May 13 13:48
DONT FANCY A JOB ON THERE FIRM
By:
wee eck
When: 30 May 13 13:50
sweetchild, are you referring to the nice looking lad who died through the drink? It was a great shame.
By:
happylady
When: 30 May 13 13:52
wee eck   ive always called his son young alec as I was a reg at brough when I lived in the uk and his old man would take a bet it was a family affair wasn't it
By:
Tightfisted
When: 30 May 13 13:52
For those who say it can't be done... to a 1 point stake at BSP.

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By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 30 May 13 13:53
yeah eck young gary, absolutely rock solid lad, such a waste
By:
RothmanMike
When: 30 May 13 14:04
Beard, yes we were the odds-on boys.
MDM Mick, Kingsbury Ken, Pete the Gravedigger and yours truly
Travelled the land for over 20 years backing the short marathon dogs.
Don't forget, off-course tax was 10% then so it made good sense
By:
wee eck
When: 30 May 13 14:04
happylady, took a bet, sometimes with my money, happy days.Grin
By:
wee eck
When: 30 May 13 14:07
Rothman, well surely you must have known my mate Dickie Wigzell he was mustard at backing

the short priced marathon dogs, seemed to make it pay for years.
By:
the beard
When: 30 May 13 14:08
Great days Mike-I remember one night myself and Tommy were at Rye House and bumped into Ken and Mick and they were racing back to Romford for the last to back Chocolate Chip--said 2/5 would be a good price,we followed them back and lumped on at 10/11!!!

Won 8 lengths
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 30 May 13 14:10
now this is how the betfair forum should be..great thread
By:
RothmanMike
When: 30 May 13 14:13
No marathon dogs around now mate, but I still trot over to Henlow and have a crack with some of the old school;
that's what its all about.
Starting to plan trips to northern horse tracks though and look forward to that, and usually try to drop in at dog tracks on the way back.
Still recognised with my old Rothmans jacket, and still get abuse for wearing it !
By:
the beard
When: 30 May 13 14:15
Not surprised!!!

Take it steady and keep putting a plus in the book
By:
RothmanMike
When: 30 May 13 14:18
Sweetchild, I agree but you will notice that most of the contributors have been on here many many years  Plain
By:
Ivor
When: 30 May 13 14:19
RothmanMike is a very wise man.
I'm ALMOST entirely laying with a rare odds-on to win, or v/strong fav to place.. occasionally nicking a few quid off the morning greyhounds. TWO losing days so far this year (I expect 4 total) and it will be at least mid-June before I'm fully back to target recovering from the latest day's loss (£482 = 5% of bank, last Friday).
2 dogs and one horse lay correct so far today.. next Unidexter 2:20pm.
By:
duffy
When: 30 May 13 14:21
It does seem a rather pleasant trip down memory lane...Billy Botto is one class name, sounds like a character out of a Guy Ritchie gangster film or somethingWink
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 30 May 13 14:30
lol funny you should say that duffy, legend has it the botto family had a run in with the krays
By:
SIR_Bond
When: 30 May 13 14:33
anyone can find a reason to lay a 50/1 shot

that doesn't matter though because in this sport expect the unsxpected.


laying a big odds it only takes a bad run for you to lose the plot and your bank.

can happen in a day.

dangerous game imo
By:
duffy
When: 30 May 13 14:36
sweetchildofmine

Shocked just to clarify, can you please forward on my behalf that I in no way meant any form of insult or offense to Mr. Botto or his family and I can tell just from reading this thread that he sounds like one of the nicest people I have ever had the immense pleasure to hear aboutScared
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 30 May 13 14:39
lol think it was something to do with the club a go-go, and the krays wanted to muscle in on the north east club and drugs scene but were sent packing pretty sharpish
By:
duffy
When: 30 May 13 14:43
sweetchildofmine

Google billy botto and it shows a betfair thread from 2011 with someone asking about him!
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 30 May 13 14:47
heres another google snippet


A collection of pics of Pubs, Clubs and Bars in/around Newcastle upon Tyne,
some ... The Kray twins and their 'firm', in La Dolce Vita nightclub, c.1960s. ......
Thomas Smith Got run out of Botto's on Shields Road and told never to come
back.
By:
wee eck
When: 30 May 13 14:53
Duffy, Billy was a gentleman, a bookie, casino and nightclub owner who never let a punter

leave his premises with no rising money, late in his life he went blind and I used to visit

and we used to have a laugh about things that had happened in the past. I still bump into his

widow from time to time.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 30 May 13 15:00
he used to terrify me when i used to go to gossy dogs as a young kid eck...he would just stand there with his palm outstretched as if beckoning you to part with your pocket money...wasnt afraid to take a bet at any time, and racing misses characters like him and his ilk
By:
wee eck
When: 30 May 13 15:10
sweetchild, in the 70s I used to go to the Festival with Billy just to punt, one year on our

way to Cheltenham I laid the odds on Henry Cooper to beat Joe Bugner 200 to lose 450 we got to

our hotel the night before the 1st day at Cheltenham and that night in the Hotel bar we listened

to the fight, according to the commentator Cooper won easily but at the end of the fight referee

Harry Gibb gave the fight to Bugner, I went to my pocket to pay Billy but he waved me away saying

imo your man won and I should be paying you two hundred.  What a guy.
By:
Jocked off
When: 30 May 13 15:15
I have not had a losing year in seven years of exclusively laying horses.
It is interesting that STEAMSHIP says "A few years ago I would pick one short price a day (under 3-1) but could not help getting greedy and trying to find another of course it ended in disaster."

I recommended my daily lays to one of Betfair's biggest existing shareholders (owns 6%) and he thought it such 'easy money' that he too got greedy and lay in nearly every race.
I would get home at night and say "Well we did OK today" and he would be chasing his losses by backing horses in American races.

My system is simply to oppose horses from slow-run maidens that start under 2-1 against two or more horses that recorded faster times in fast-run maidens.
From a time perspective the one from the slow-run race has to improve to win the race.

Making a profit is all about FOLLOWING THE FACTS NOT HAVING OPINIONS.

My eyes tell me that the maiden winners at Leicester and Lingfield on Tuesday should be followed but their times may tell me otherwise.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 30 May 13 15:16
lol so thats where patrickpower got it from
By:
Steamship
When: 30 May 13 18:01
Been a hard day today after last nights loss and at the moment I am level after 2 days so hope for success tonight.
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 31 May 13 00:10
ttt
By:
Greg_Gory
When: 31 May 13 09:02
http://icard.888sport.com/racecard/
race/89078

Scroll down and look at the horses thats raced against each other before.

Do the weights and measures,and if you hit 3 winners in a row you must be fookin useless Laugh
By:
Greg_Gory
When: 31 May 13 09:03
By the way I'm fookin useless Laugh
By:
sweetchildofmine
When: 31 May 13 19:54
how did it go today mike?
By:
skygreenzone
When: 31 May 13 20:00
If you pick a random  horse to win do you think you could be a succesful gambler?Just do the opposite it is that easy.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 31 May 13 20:04
used to lay the complete rags 50/1's 66's etc on here to lose a monkey, was very comfortable at that, would lay £500 to £2 no hoper.

got up to winning a monkey thought it was time to lay them to lose a thou, first bet I layed was £950 to £10 a novice hurdle at Uttoxeter on a Sunday, sat watching the screen in running and it went 95's 80's 50's 20's single figures then odds on and guess what it won, so that was the end of that scenario.
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