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unless of course he posts his bets BB......... oh forgot they contain his account details WALOFS
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e.g. all 4/1
25 lost - 125 to win , running loss 25 31.25 lost - 156.25 to win, running loss 56.25 39.06 lost - 195.31 to win, running loss 95.31 48.83 lost - 244.14 to win, running loss 144.14 61.04 lost - 305.18 to win, running loss 205.18 76.29 lost - 381.47 to win, running loss 281.47 95.37 lost - 476.84 to win, running loss 376.84 119.21 lost - 596.05 to win, running loss 496.05 149.01 lost - 745.06 to win, running loss 645.06 186.27 lost, total loss after 10 losers 831.33 just an example |
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Only clear to those without blinkers barrowboy, some are prepared to believe he is a Prophet, sorry in profit, irrespective of the evidence that is laid before them or the deafening sound of the warning bells...!
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Manxy is seething that he bought PPI in Liverpool and did not even have a job.nap
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The only martingale I have used is on a race horse.
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Snap racingstar,but Ebay and martyn fordy changed all that.
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i just looked up 3/1 shots over the past 8 years
there was a run of 34 losses in a row ![]() and 24 times the sequence of 3/1 losers went to 20 or more |
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whatever this guy says
if he can't make a profit at level stakes, he won't make one using a martingale. i just don't get how a thread like this gets so much attention. |
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I dont get restrictions on bets by 98% of punters "Experts" on here?
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i just looked up 3/1 shots over the past 8 years
there was a run of 34 losses in a row Shocked and 24 times the sequence of 3/1 losers went to 20 or more nonesense heres the true stats for last 8 years. General Race Data - affects every runner Date (Year) 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 Horse Data - characteristics in this race Odds - Exactly 3/1 Losing Sequences Sequence Occurences 1 659 2 568 3 439 4 326 5 232 6 191 7 147 8 98 9 102 10 61 11 56 12 36 13 32 14 23 15 20 16 10 17 9 18 4 19 4 20 5 21 2 22 1 23 1 24 4 25 1 26 1 27 2 34 1 |
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oops yer right.
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Losing Sequences
Sequence Occurences 1 833 2 676 3 552 4 420 5 306 6 239 7 180 8 129 9 114 10 74 11 64 12 39 13 43 14 23 15 27 16 11 17 9 18 5 19 5 20 6 21 4 22 1 23 2 24 5 26 1 27 3 34 1 well manxy my horseracebase data says different if it's wrong don't shoot the fecking messenger ![]() |
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mine is 2004- present
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Stats never lie until the next event BF_f...........fact.
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soem stats just back up what you know to be true GT
and this thread is a prime example of this don't do a martingale if by your own admission you can't pick enough winners to level stakes, it will not fix it and the bad runs will get you. that is as near as certain as you can get. you may be able to make it work for a while and leave with a profit but in the long run you are doomed. |
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stridingedge, this type of thread will always receive multiple posts because it plots the statisticians against the chancers, the cynics against the believers, the wise against the gullible etc etc.
It is harmless enough if no one is taken in, but then again most would say if they are, then they deserve everything they get, or rather don't get, in this case. |
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ffs,cons con the stupid and gullible.
?????????????????????????????/ Endemic and yet the best are banned from outing them? |
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random selections
flawed staking plan changes in rules to accommodate extra winners what could possibly go wrong? |
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I hate the UK and I hate fukcwits like the OP.
HTH BTW NORTH EAST YORKSHIRE apologises.. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Not found them at home yet., ![]() ![]() |
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A small tweak on 3/1 winners
3/4 horses can switch odds before the off Look at stats 2/1 to 5/1 |
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i obviously copied and pasted the above'paradox' but was interested to get people who know a lot more about it than me to get their views.
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There is stacks of maths about how individuals could determine the value to them on wikipedia. (almost none which I understand)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Petersburg_paradox The page ends with this sentence The assumption of infinite resources can produce other apparent paradoxes in economics. See martingale (roulette system) and gambler's ruin. Which brings us back on topic...... |
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good afternoon lads day 7 todays selections are as follows
ancient days 1.05dp up them steps 1.30b jack the ref 1.35dp ayasha 1.50s lively baron 2.00b lundy sky 2.10e urban gale 2.35dp theatrical star 2.40e desert creek 2.50s jack bene 3.05dp as usual we will be stopping at a winner good luck if you get involved |
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Message to a couple of ppl on here.The price he is using on these bets is at least 3-1 not exactly 3-1.And he certainly isn't actually betting ,it's all hyperthetical at the moment.He would have done his dough on the first day cos the said horse which "got him out of trouble" never traded at 3-1 or above,only traded higher the night before which he can't bet on as he wouldn't have known at that point that he would have had 8 losing bets.
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grocer is factually correct
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However ,if he had started a day later with this thread then at moment he would be in front with his selections.pls keep it as hyperthetical though as it will lose but it is interesting following you.
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grocer jack..... what a load of rubbish you are talking the said horse
was available easily over 3/1 at the time i know i was on well above that price i can understand your jealousy, but if you cant pick winners just follow me its not rocket science |
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imo it is wrong to refer to this type of staking as 'martingale'. The classic martingale as everyone knows is to double up on red or black until a winner.
With this type of BACK staking with a defined TARGET in mind and variable PRICES, it's something completely different |
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Report • Quote • Block User whatyoulookingat • July 16, 2011 2:50 PM BST
i suppose it had to happen took a fair hit today still in front overall on this system but will be looking elsewhere in the future see you all soon and good luck for the future never tells lies and never loses ![]() |
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todays selections are as follows
coupe de ville 1.45 newb deacon blues 2.20 newb countrywide flame 2.40 mr 3 Lays all won 5/4 5/2 11/4 using the system you were using that would have been a big hit, off course thats if your bets were for real |
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I can assure you I'm not jealous.i wish you well tbh.this is an old system which your portraying to be your idea.You are not betting but you are posting what you would be betting if you were doing it for real,which of course is fine.if and when you do this for real ,you will find it very hard to get enuff money on to make up shortfall after 6 or 7 losers.as I say if you were doing it for real ,at the moment you would be in front.i enjoy this thread.
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Laugh my head off.should read ,you would be in front if you started a couple of days later.
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Just had a look at them 10 .. you will struggle today can only see one winner and you need big ball to get out
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Have u ditched 3/1 for 4/1,5/1,6/1?
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Its not looking good today.
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Has anyone been calculating how much he needs to put on his 7th selection to cover what's he's lost today and also to be £100 in front.
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Bigger prices so maybe £150
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