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By:
guinness2dear
When: 11 Aug 12 22:34
Billy Shand-Kidd blackbarn ? (well he might have fallen off in one)
By:
acey deucy
When: 11 Aug 12 22:35
Remember him well g2d,rode stacks of Winners.
By:
blackbarn
When: 11 Aug 12 22:36
Paul Tulk - Got a big job for the McAlpine tartan, just after his successful apprenticeship (or even during).  My Uncle Jack was a great fan of his, one of his fourWink best ever apprentices in the history of the world
By:
guinness2dear
When: 11 Aug 12 22:36
Good man, as i say he never seems to get a mention so we've put that to rights..
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 11 Aug 12 22:47
There was a category that I'd call, ageing,wise,trusted workrider/jockey that dosen't seem to exist on the scale of former days. In this category I'd have included Frank Morby ( Peter Walwyn), Steve and Kevin Raymont ( Jeremy Tree), Brian Proctor (**** Hern), Jock Skilling ( various Northern yards)- and many others that I can't remember.
By:
themightymac
When: 11 Aug 12 22:49
Frank Morby, remember his association with Yamadori.

Johnny Seagrave is another oldtimer worth a mention.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 11 Aug 12 22:50
Dennis Maitland
Geordie Ramshaw
Davis East
Alan Cousins
By:
guinness2dear
When: 11 Aug 12 22:51
David Maitland (clown me)
By:
collywobble
When: 11 Aug 12 22:52
SOme I remember from my early daye

Norman McIntosh
Brian Henry
Brian Connorton
Denys Ryan
By:
blackbarn
When: 11 Aug 12 23:00
Geordie Ramshaw had very large ears!! and he insisted on keeping twenty % of same beneath his cap which gave him a very strange vaguely aerodynamic look.  I will try to find an image.
By:
sparrow
When: 11 Aug 12 23:01
Ray Reader
Russ Maddock
George Cadwalder
Trevor Rogers
By:
guinness2dear
When: 11 Aug 12 23:02
Can you find one of his boss Staff Ingham as well matey..
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 11 Aug 12 23:12
Have to spoken to George Cadwalder on a few occasions many,many years ago. He won't remember me. Liked a drink but seemed a really genuinely OK person. The last time I spoke to him was at Haydock approx 30yrs ago and was he driving Bruce Raymond back home to Newmarket. Think he'd just finished a short stint working as a workrider for Harry Thomson Jones.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 11 Aug 12 23:13
I think George rode for Eric Cousins earlier on
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 11 Aug 12 23:18
Yeah, when he had Sangster horses. He also did a stint as assistant to Mick Easterby ( Sangster horses there st the time too), then on to Tom Jones. If he is still alive he'd be around 70 I'd guess.
By:
acey deucy
When: 11 Aug 12 23:18
Bruce Raymond,now he was a very good Jockey,i think he rode the first Winner that i ever Led-Up.
By:
blackbarn
When: 11 Aug 12 23:29
Bruce Raymond is racing manager to someone isn't he. Typical of me that I know more about him as an apprentice than I do now!!. He was one of Willie Stephenson's top boys in the early sixties, and went on to be a top jock - won several group 1's I think.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 11 Aug 12 23:31
Rabbah Bloodstock, blackbarn..
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 11 Aug 12 23:40
Alain Lequeux was a very good jockey, won the St. Leger on Son Of Love and was a frequent visitor over here riding for Olivier Douieb when he had a great spell in the UK training winners. You just had to take notice of his runners at the time.
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 11 Aug 12 23:44
Typical of me that I know more about him as an apprentice than I do now!!

Think it's known as oncoming dementia! I used to be able to reel off the first dozen in all the classics and big jumps races from the mid 70's to mid 80's, and still ahve a lucid memory of that era. However, sometimes I'll struggle to remember who won the Derby two years ago or who won the GN last years. Worrying indeed !!!
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 11 Aug 12 23:45
* half dozen
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 11 Aug 12 23:45
Blackburn, Art Stephenson's gallops were at the botton of my road in Royston. John Jenkins took over later on obviously.

There is a golf course nearby on Royston Heath that you are not allowed to use buggys as it has a 45 degree lean towards the A505 Laugh
By:
blackbarn
When: 11 Aug 12 23:48
That's the one Guinness. Long face, slightly lugubrious in the nicest possible way. Him not them of course.

Re Staff Ingham, not sure I have ever seen a photo of him. Saw him in the flesh in his "pomp" of course. However, the blackbarn files run ever so deep so you never know

Spoke to Jimmy Lindley at Glorious Goodwood. Lovely man, he politely disputed that I ever saw him ride over hurdles 'cos I looked too young (a very nice man!). Looked very dapper, aged 77. Would have loved to have talked to him for longer (about Aggressor and Double Jump) but there was a queue for his attention! Nice!!
By:
guinness2dear
When: 11 Aug 12 23:52
Does Jeff ride his hoss down there, Slippy ?

That might explain his indifferent drawl....
By:
acey deucy
When: 11 Aug 12 23:54
I was always a Big Fan of Jimmy Lindley,i doubt that man ever said a bad word about anybody.
By:
guinness2dear
When: 11 Aug 12 23:56
Even fillies, acey...

Everyone was "really nice"
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 11 Aug 12 23:58
No idea g2d, I have long since moved from that neck of the woods but I had a good time living there for about 12 years or so. Hardly missed a meeting at Fakenham, Newmarket, Huntingdon and Towcester in those days, not to mention Henlow dogs! Jockeys used to drink in my local, no need to mention names but without doubt they were the worst tipsters going.
By:
blackbarn
When: 12 Aug 12 00:00
Verboten - glad I am not alone, but it's worse for me. Aged 12 (1964) I could recite every Derby and Grand National winner since inception (Diomed and Lottery respectively) and I could do most of the other classics too.  My dad used to bet elderly friends (and blokes in the pub)that I could name the big two winners for the year they were born. He didnt lose much.

Some of it sticks, but as you say it is the recent stuff that is the hardest. If I am still allowed to stop at 1964 (Santa Claus and Team Spirit) I can still perform.
By:
acey deucy
When: 12 Aug 12 00:01
Beautiful Hands !!!Laugh
By:
Al Dente
When: 12 Aug 12 00:05
@Blackburn. Jimmy Lindley, lovely fella, remembering him riding hard fought (I use the word advisedly)finishes with Lester after which both would called up by the stewards for "a clash of whips." Laugh
By:
dod
When: 12 Aug 12 10:58
Don't think anyone has mentioned Frankie Durr a cracking big race jockey who did me few favours over the years
By:
mange
When: 12 Aug 12 11:09
Just thought Id give a mention for Brian Taylor (brilliant)..............met his sad end soon after falling at the finishing line from a stumbling horse.................Sad
By:
sj
When: 12 Aug 12 11:13
Brian Rouse was one of old old favs
By:
mange
When: 12 Aug 12 11:17
sj.........Young Ross Atkinson is related to him....
By:
richgit
When: 12 Aug 12 11:20
Well guys----no need for names, but I met a well known jockey from the 70s/80s a few years ago,who by then owned a very lavish hostelry-------I asked him one morning "which of the big winners payed for all this lot then ?"-----------he just smiled and said------------- "it wasn't the winners that paid for this lot son !" Wink
By:
workrider
When: 12 Aug 12 11:23
frankie durr rode the  leger winner , and did he ride that famous 100/1 sprint winner in the 70s...something boy..? blackbarn ,   i've joined that club .....Sad
By:
sj
When: 12 Aug 12 11:24
didn't know that mange,will keep an eye on the lad
By:
workrider
When: 12 Aug 12 11:24
mange did brian get killed out foreign ....?
By:
Shropshire Lad
When: 12 Aug 12 11:25
As a schoolboy i lived within yards of Fred Rimmells stable and recall Terry Biddlecombe, Ken White, John Burke and Sam Morshead...
By:
dod
When: 12 Aug 12 11:25
Know the horse you mean but it's gone from mind.
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