brigust1

but sadly most of you can't live without the buzz

You have hit the nail on the head there,the buzz nearly finished me

Football betting for me has "22 runners" a game,watch the first 20mins to see who is performing well,then make a personal judgement on the outcome of the match.

"if you~dig" 

Most importantly, Laying is the way to go , not Backing - B**locks

a small daily target are an essential also. -  B**locks



There is no definitive method. You find what works FOR YOU.

There are rules to be adhered to to make it successful but the above are definitely not two of the,

Brig . . .agreed ref jocks and trainers certainly didnt mean them

i mean lads on here who put the effort in.

RothmanMike

Can you explain why Laying is the way to go, not Backing and why a daily target is essential.

Thank-you.

^^ you said it more diplomatically than me :-D

Thanx. Will keep an eye out.

harry findley must be in the twilight zone

havent seen a quote in months

Spot on brig about needing the buzz at the moment I should only be doing horses and football yet in the past ten days I have strayed onto Rugby both codes

Spot on brig about needing the buzz at the moment I should only be doing horses and football yet in the past ten days I have strayed onto Rugby both codes

Spot on brig about needing the buzz at the moment I should only be doing horses and football yet in the past ten days I have strayed onto Rugby both codes

sorry as I was saying. Both codes of rugby, cricket and US Open Golf. These 3 sports in the past 8 days have cost me £300 which has had the knock on effect that I have changed my mind about other bets, kept football bets running when I should have traded and not had as much on a couple of winners and worst of all missed Counsel at Kempton last night.

You really have to have a clear mind and when this week is over I will take a break and refresh myself.

I have just got up to speed not having read this thread for a couple of days. Glad to see everyone knows how to win and is continuing to do so.

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I have just got up to speed not having read this thread for a couple of days. Glad to see everyone knows how to win and is continuing to do so.

you've been here long enough to know everyone's a winner on BF

trouble is mike bookmakers can lay at better odds than us on here,indeed many on course are just hedging really,but if it works for you then thats fine.

One of the most intresting threads ive read. I decided to take my Betting more seriously this year as one day would perhaps like to make a living at it but the other and main reason is Pensions are knackered now in this country and i sure as hell don,t want to work till i drop so have to find alternative ways of making a income. I like most can pick winners but that doesnt always guarantee profit. What has been the biggest eye opener for me this year is writing down and recording bets in a diary. Any silly Bets still have to be recorded. Its Human Nature that we remember our Winners and quickly dismiss our losers but when written down, what a eye opener. I analysed my Bets the other day and broke it down to football bets, Horse Racing Bets and Sports Bets. On the Football Bets i learned i have a high strike rate on Premiership Games, La Liga, Scotland, especially brtting in play but am absymal at Internationals and European Matches. Sport im great at predicting Boxing but Darts, im as bad at betting on it as i am on playing it.Horse Racing, good at the big races, crap at low grade racing and handicaps. Has this is written in the Book and ive analysed it i know what to focus on and know what to avoid and avoiding what im not good at would have saved alot of losing Bets. Temperament has been another issue.Ive found when ive been on a losing run ive tended to chase rather than take a step back, again all noted. I myself as this is the 1st time ive recorded bets see this year as serving a apprenticeship ready for the proper stuff. Im in Profit this year but nowhere near what i should be if i eradicated them mistakes. Now ive broke things down i anticipate the 2nd half of the year to be a suceess.

Another Keyboard Dickhead zzzzzzzzzzz :-)

hello valuebetting
nise topic
i am  -28 pts since begin but no worry
but its only one good winner to clear it.
commputer in repairs tues get back wed eve missed 25/1 miami gator had written down mon for wed but forgit it

point is to win over all lomg term  not panic  know strengths weakenesses  be disiplined only play when price bigger than you make

cann't construct good bet
wait opportunity come along and not before
finilly know why you win and why you lose
keep records
best luck

Betlarge, throughout time it has always been said that Bookmakers never lose .

Why - because they LAY bets.

Now with the arrival of Betfair we too can LAY bets.

Well that’s reasonable based on past history as prior to Betfair, and other internet-based competition, bookmakers could bet to huge overrounds - as much as 3% per runner.  Take today's Buckingham Palace Stakes, the big handicap, 5.35 Ascot.  Go back 10/15 years and this would be priced up at SP at something like 150% giving a whopping profit for layers with a perfect book.

However, at the time of writing (7.30am) there is already an overround of just 3.6% in the back market and the lay market overbroke is around 2% - and that’s in a 32-runner field!  As you correctly imply, laying was extremely attractive.  However, that game is well and truly over.

All on-course bookmakers are backers as well as layers nowadays.  The economics of the game dictate they have to be.

Laying and backing are the same thing.  No difference whatsoever.  If you lay a horse in a race, you are merely backing all the others.  If you back a horse, you are just laying all the others.

A punters success will not be down to whether he backs or lays - that is completely irrelevant.  It will be down to whether he can back at a bigger price than the horse’s real chance of winning, or lay at a shorter price than the horse’s real chance of losing.