good thread for a change, fellas

That guy wot just got 50 large on Frankel at 1/6 obviously bets for a living.

front two in betting clear,2/1 both =a1/2 bet.

12+ hours of studying is the quickest way to the poor house if you dont end up in a padded room first that is

again lads thanks for the feedback, he will probably paper trade on here for a trial period so everyone will see the things he has taken from this post,
my view is this

for anyone on here to make a decent profit they would have to put in more than 40 hours a week
also take in to account the comisssion, pc charge and the unsocial/unhealthy  side of sitting at the pc all day with your blood pressure going up and down all day there has to be easy ways to make a living but if you are doing it at the moment and making a living not having to spend 40 hours on here well I can only say one thing to you.

you lucky fooker.

brig
I see you are here since 01 so I can assume (leave out all the ass u me  jokes) you have a certain knowledge that a newbie coming on here would not have, no doubt you were on here at lot more when you started in 01 but I stick to my point which is a newbie trying to make a living on here would have to spend many hours on here until he learned by his mistakes. you have most likely taught yourself which races to back in after 11 years on here. It would be almost like an apprenticeship to come on here to try make a living.

I think I burnt myself out on horse racing after backing for over 50 years so I don't study form anymore and just lay(mostly) according to instinct/experience. It's just for fun interest these days but I surprise myself by making money. So it can definitely be done particularly if you add the work on top. The things I have working for me are experience, discipline and not having strong views! You'll never hear me saying must win, must lose.

The truth lies in past results,take a very hard luck at as many previous races as you wish to,you need only look at all races since January 1st 2012,ask yourself>how many of those winners would I have backed and how many of those losers would I have layed?
Results for this year alone will prove to you how difficult it all is,the majority of people having a serious go to make a living backing and laying horses this year will not be making a living but slowly destroying their funds
There have been many major upsets this year just like all other years and the more a person uses their years of knowledge the higher the chances are of them losing lots of money,believe it or not you have a far greater chance of earning money on the horses by not studying but applying the lucky dip method
If you are not being supplied good information about your selections you are playing with fire and will soon lose lots of money
The majority of trainers dont know if their horses will win or not,even a horse that a trainer has nearly given up on will often run a blinder and win
Football straight out win bets are far easier and you always have at least a 50/50 chance of winning
Good luck if you give it a go>paper trading will tell you nothing due to the fact that it is a different ball game (excuse the pun)when the chips are down

Just my little advice. If you've got the discipline, and it has taken me years to get there,I only bet on the bigger days/meetings. Better quality racing and some serious horses at good prices.

Yes, others will come on here and say a 10/1 shot at Newton Abbott on a Wednesday is the same as a 10/1 winner of the Gold Cup but I've the added confidence that the 10/1 in the Gold Cup will give me a run for my money. I just can't trust the day to day mundane stuff although some find it a challenge to second guess some of the more 'enterprising' stables.

For example, since Cheltenham, I've had both the Grand National meeting, Aintree & Fairyhouse/Punchestown/Newmarket Guineas Meeting/Chester Cup Meeting/York Dante/Derby meeting and currently Royal Ascot. That's enough for me to be getting involved with.

For the remainder of the summer I've got the July Meeting/Galway/Goodwood/York before the Leger meeting heralds the start of Autumn.

Anyone else do something similar?

i think the difference in making it pay or not can often be in the decisions u make. as in knowing when to bet big or bet small. if u backed or laid a certain amount of times on a larger than your normal bet and they hit, then happy days. obv its knowing when to have these bets and then u can continue with smaller bets keeping your bank ticking over.

not easy obv and will undoubtedly have to be lucky!

Thanks for the reply
I should have realised about the hcap race angle and not leaving anything to chance ie strange outcomes.
What sites do you use for racecards etc or do you do ya own ratings ?

I do my own calculations and keep everything that may help, stable tours etc. With only a limited number of races per week certainly makes it easier and now we have race replays etc. Priceless. I know exactly what races are coming up and what is entered, even if it doesn't run. There is a hell of a lot of dross nowadays and few evening meetings fit the bill. Some do but most don't. Similarly some racecourses are minefields so I swerve them. May sound a little complicated but, believe me, it is simple. Anyone could do the same with the same results.

Very focused Brigust 1, if it works dont change it.  Good luck.

Every race is different. There is no set strategy to tie you down. If there were everyone would be doing it. Thanks 11KV, good luck to you.

You only get out of something what you put in Kal. It does take effort and time, add increasing experience and dedication. I've laid out exactly what I do and it works for me. You will only know if you can do it if you try. Good luck.

ps . . ive been in the game (both sides of the counter) for over 32 years now, and im still learning every day

a bet was struck yesterday,£100,ooo@1/1 4 mins before the off,SO YOU THINK .will it be the same today i wonder FAME AND GLORY.?.

my motto is "you can't win big from small, be prepared to win small from big on a consistent basis"

OI  . . . THIS WASNT AIMED AT YOU BRI NOT IN THE SLIGHTEST YOU SPEAK A LOT OF SENSE BUT IL NEVER HAVE THIS IM SO GREAT I DONT NEED TO LISTEN TO NO ONE BOLLOXS.

LIGHTEN UP FFS. . . . LOVE VICTOR MELDREW

AINT GOT THE HUMP WITH OTHER POSTERS AT ALL IM ENJOYING THE THREAD.