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i wouldnt worry too much about jocky boys hes nothing compared to rattin and rasputin
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Ribero
Back to your post about the number of bets taken.Last years Xmas meeting at Wetherby I spoke to relatively inexperienced book standing on the 3rd line on the second day.I had stood on the front line & he asked me how many bets I'd taken the day earlier(Boxing Day).I tried to explain to him I hadn't a clue how many bets I'd taken as all i was interested in was how much money I'd taken home in my ar se pocket.I tried to explain to him that when I make a mistake & cann't get out of it I just stand it,trying to explain that all you are doing when knocking the others out to try to put the mistake right is giving your % away.Trying to explain that over the year you're giving your profit away by chasing the number of bets & taking at all costs seems to have fallen on deaf ears.Who knows,maybe I'm doing it wrong,but I've been at it long enough & I'm still batting? |
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ive watched you at hamilton and your my hero
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you and your big sisster
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anyway im off to bed im reading seabiscuit and its better than the film
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good night johnny lol ...........tony .....what was the distance given out for the last race today mate xx thanks in advance dave d x
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tony;believe me you are not doing it wrong,your way may be old school but it is the correct way.
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i was faced with the same problem at ripon with another.
taylor bookmakers....i knew i was in trouble when they put up their first show. prices incuded 13/5 , 13/1 , 17/1 , 30/1. i put the same prices in my computer and it showed 106.8% for the nine runners. they did exactly the same for every race , with fluctuations they couldn't win more than their expenses unless they were lucky with results..............i don't think they were.!! and this is a weekend with an acceptable crowd on the front line |
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they have also paid a premium price for a front line pitch at pontefract.
i look forward to them betting next to jack wilson there. should be fun |
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even the low numbers get preference in the kelso car park.
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adge - were they also putting up crooked EW terms?
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no , wasnot , proper place terms but there wasn't a bad each way race to test them
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1/6th 1234 is creeping in now I've noticed.
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gentlemen all things change over the years and centurys,when motor cars came along some people were horrified at the thought of it all,all kinds off things have happend where people have said itll never work .....but its called change ..progress.. whatever .....you cant halt the procedure.....in your game because youve been set in your ways you believe the ways that people are trying shouldnt be allowed or cant work ,but there trying to do something different and ARE trying to PROGRESS if doing something different to alter a system that doesnt work for them ,how can you blame them ,in all walks of life theres always someone out there being critical to change but the one thing that never changes is this .....youll never stop it .....you adjust to live with it and work along side of it ,because if you dont .....you get left behind
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in bad each way races why dont the on course books do what high street books have done for years for some people, if someone wants 50 pound each way on 5/1 and lets say they bet 1/3 11/4 5/1 20/1 bar you can have 50 pound win and 25 pound place, that should help
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So you are saying that bookmakers offering 1/6th odds 1234 in a 20 runner handicap, displaying a small difficult to read sign and not printing the terms on the ticket is a good thing and they should be applauded? That is progress?
Unfortunately, I think in some ways you are right and eventually almost everyone will be offering inferior ew terms to the high street. There appears to be little that can be done to stop it (or will from those in authority). It seems ripping off people who actually go to the racecourses is now the norm and considered to be acceptable behaviour, whether it be extortionate admission prices, rip off food and drink or rip off ew terms from the course bookies. Come racing. |
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Adge, any idea how they can profit betting this way? I mean we all assume it's impossible of course, but they keep turning up. As for Barry Johnson and Martin Verral, well what seems strange to me is how they sit as directors of the ARB
As for Barry Johnson 'representing' bookmakers on the FRb, I've no idea how someone so clueless, who bets so poorly and rubbishes his fellow bookmakers fair trade stances, has come to be a director of anything. |
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wasnot,
Damned if you do, damned if you don't! Seems an apt phrase! |
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Dave
The distance was 8lth. I'll have to have a word with that announcer,he was getting carried away with so many attractive women around him.He was like a dog with a dozen bitches on heat around him.He must have been plumb k nackered by the time he got home last night.The dirty old sod. |
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It's all about being able to convince your fellow colleagues that you got their best interests at heart, but when behind closed doors in their little cartel everything else is suddenly forgotten about, write to the various Racecourses and tell them that you are thinking of setting up another trade body which represents the MAJORITY of bookmakers views and not just one or two, when the courses then write back to say that they now recognise a body which represents the majority of bookmakers and not the minority these individuals mentioned on here will be up the swanny without a paddle.
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i knew i was in trouble when they put up their first show. prices incuded 13/5 , 13/1 , 17/1 , 30/1.
There was a jolly that went off 9/5 SP on one of the televised races on Sat. Sign of the times. |
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ANY DETAIL OF JOCKEY CLUB DEAL
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allpoints !! when frankie anounced the last race was run in a record time of 5.56 i thought he was on about the race to the bar lol.....and yes he must of been knackered as well as hoarse after all his musings and ramblings !!
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Any idea if the Taylors bookmakers mentioned re:Ponte & Ripon above is Andy Taylor from Leeds who had some sort of exchange shop in West Leeds?
Adge's description of the way he bet suggests that it probably is |
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Dave
Would you believe he doesn't drink? I'm going to get in touch with the Northern area & see if he can have the announcers job full time.The man's a legend on that mic,I could listen to him allday.But there again I cann't afford him to be missing too often. |
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yes it is itk although it's his rep who has been betting for him lately and they haven't been at it long so only just finding their feet.
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Allpoints,I know from your posts that you are a northern point to point man.Do you remember or know what become of a man named Mr.Nattiss?I think he come from Cheshire way and he printed ratings for the points on a yellow sheet.He charged2/-they were good.He came down our way if he thought he would sell more than his way.He sold them at the points for a lot of years,a very shrewd and knowledgable man.Mr. Natriss was his name.
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Lets hope that they see sense sooner rather than later. I'll have to wait a couple of weeks to see them in action
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both bj and mv are racing most days so they are easy to find for other bookmakers to point out there concerns
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I was referring to Taylor's bookmakers not MV or BJ
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i have heard on the grapevine that these pair of wonderfull men have given up the idea of amalgamating in the ring and now have gone there seperate ways
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mr wilson will sidestep a possible confrontation at pontefract by attending stratford where there are expected to be more novice each way punters
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Great!
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