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By:
therobster27
When: 14 Jan 12 08:56
Bet day 14. 2pts E.W. Hey Big Spender 11-1 Boyle BOG... write up to follow....
By:
therobster27
When: 14 Jan 12 09:28
Today’s 15.40 at Warwick is where I have decided to centre my attentions, and despite a few horses in the line up having decent claims, I believe Hey Big Spender for the Tizzard’s has got to have an excellent chance of capturing this prize.

      This horse look’s well up to staying these marathon trip’s, and has thus far has had a reasonable season, and looking through all known form look’s a horse to keep on side up to around mid  February, where all of his best previous run’s have came. He did actually bounce back from a couple of poor run’s prior to winning a race on course over 21F in February last year,  those poor run’s being in the Hennessey at Newbury where he had  too much use made of him(set good pace and took them into the straight), and the Victor Chandler at Cheltenham.

       This horse is obviously the class act in the field, and like Lto in the Welsh National is lumbered with top weight. In these type of event’s I’m much more comfortable with having a feather weighted horse on side, however looking at the opposition this horse should be well up to shouldering the burden of 11-12, with plenty in the field looking to be out of sorts, and many off their marks looking simply not up to it. All 3 start’s this season have been relatively encouraging, including his run Lto in the Welsh National. That day it’s fair to say you were almost waiting for his fall, after getting in tight and brushing through plenty he was simply having an off day in the jumping stakes, yet regardless of this he was still tanking along nicely and making steady progress before coming to grief, with Joe Tizzard still having to ask him a serious question.

          I’m fairly certain he will be up to staying today’s trip on course, and the ground should be ideal. The Tizzard’s have had a nice time of it on track over the year’s, and have done fairly recently as well. The yard also continues to have plenty of their yard running well, and if this lad is on a jumping day he should be capable of giving these the weight and a beating at a reasonable price.
By:
scooper82
When: 14 Jan 12 15:51
Boooommm!!!
By:
joshicho
When: 14 Jan 12 15:51
outstanding robster!
By:
plentyon
When: 14 Jan 12 15:52
Robster  Well Done and Thanks  Better at NH than the AW ? Again thanks
By:
BJG
When: 14 Jan 12 15:53
CoolCoolCool
By:
greedkillsmybankagain
When: 14 Jan 12 15:55
fantastic
rob
many
many
fanks
By:
Billy Liddell
When: 14 Jan 12 15:56
Rob, you are the BEST OF THE BESTCool
By:
knot in wood
When: 14 Jan 12 15:56
well done,horse jumped well today.
By:
whiteowl
When: 14 Jan 12 15:57
absolutely outstanding
  many thanks
By:
catazoid
When: 14 Jan 12 16:20
super work rob. many thanks :)
By:
pumphol.
When: 14 Jan 12 16:39
WD Rob Grin
By:
never give up
When: 14 Jan 12 17:14
wd CoolCool
By:
chelsea girl
When: 14 Jan 12 17:36
Rob makes this game look easy.Cool Silly
By:
TOM-SEAGULL
When: 14 Jan 12 18:27
DIDNT SEE IT DIDNT DO IT, BUT YOU SIR ARE BECOMEING SCARY GOOD . . . WELL DONE.


YOU, JINXY, DECKIES AND MEPOOR LADS MAKE THE FORUM WORTH READING..

HAVE HEARD GOOD REPORTS BOUT MR LIDDLEWISE AS WELL.

THANKS FOR KEEPING THE FORUM SOUND ROBSTER WELL DONE AGAIN.Cool
By:
horsey_oclock
When: 14 Jan 12 22:50
Great stats, Robster! Cool

I see your aim last year was 100 points profit and you achieved that, but what was the actual total? And did you profit every month?

Thanks.
By:
therobster27
When: 15 Jan 12 09:14
Result day 14.

Hey Big Spender     Won 14-1 (adv 11'sBOG)  +35pts

Profit/ Loss                                +35pts

Total                                       220 1/4pts
By:
therobster27
When: 15 Jan 12 09:22
horsey, Ive cut & pasted my snap shot of the stats off last years thread, they exclude any doubles and multi bets, simply singles to level stakes.

Well the year has finally come to an end, and with it this thread, but I have crunched some figures from the past year regarding my selections to level stakes…


January    43 selections     6 winners   +2pts @ advised prices   - 12pts @ Industry sp
February   24 selections     2 winners   -9pts                               - 13pts
March      29 selections     2 winners   -1/2pt                              - 2pts
April      31 selections     5 winners  + 32 1/2pts                          + 14 1/2pts
May        38 selections     4 winners  + 6pts                                - 7 pts
June       33 selections     2 winners  - 6pts                               - 11pts
July        2 selections     0 winners  - 2pts                                - 2pts
August     31 selections    4 winners  - 1/2pt                                - 8 1/2pts
September  10 selections    0 winners  - 10pts                                - 10pts
October    9 selections    0 winners   - 9pts                                 - 9pts
November   42 selections    8 winners  + 103 1/2pts                           + 77 pts
December   36 selections     4 winners  + 1 1/2pts                            - 6pts

                               Total     + 108 1/2pts                       + 11 pts

                           328 selections with  37 winners

At first glance its hardly great reading, however I personally like playing E.W. and although you use plenty more points betting this way I think the range of prices I personally select it’s a must, and has served me relatively well throughout the year.

       I have finished the year off +167 points, an average of  +13.9 pts profit per month. The 3 main reason’s for starting the thread was firstly to keep track of my bets, and using it to have an accurate gage of how much money I was loosing/making, secondly to ascertain the demographic information to possibly see my strengths and weaknesses in betting area’s and use the information to try and become more efficient in betting terms. The 3rd was to generate interest and debate regarding my selections, and I’d like to thank everyone that has commented and left input on here, and hopefully at times you’ve joined in some of the more successful punts.
By:
mange
When: 15 Jan 12 09:22
Brave Call Rob.....W.D.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 15 Jan 12 09:23
Great selection again robster, very well done but thought you worked out p/l to advised prices not sp?
By:
stewarts rise
When: 15 Jan 12 09:25
Sorry BOG price!
By:
only1mill
When: 15 Jan 12 09:32
Reading your stats Rob it's plain to see u need to get on at advised prices to show a decent profit, then again i'm now wondering how much profit you would make using BF SP
By:
therobster27
When: 15 Jan 12 10:03
Bet day 15. 1pt win Redair 16.40 Kempton 12-1 Bet victor BOG.... write up to follow...
By:
horsey_oclock
When: 15 Jan 12 10:27
Thanks for the info, Robster.

So you've made more profit, to advised prices, in the first 2 weeks of this year than the whole of last year?! Have you changed your way of selecting them, or what are your thoughts on that?

Thanks.
By:
Facts
When: 15 Jan 12 10:44
Good stuff again rob.
January proving a good month ( so far) for me too. But ( looking back over 5 years of records), this game is all about the long term. However good a run one is enjoying at any one period - the long losing runs are just waiting in the wings. However, with a sound system, a sensible betting approach( with a sufficient Bank, should mean end of year profits. Good luck.
By:
therobster27
When: 15 Jan 12 10:54
Today’s finale at Kempton looks a trappy little affair, with Oratorian and Le King Beau looking to have plenty more to offer than most,  with the former the potential to make his current mark look ridiculous. However they both rightly dominate the betting market, and at around 5-4 / 7-2 take a huge proportion of the book, and personally thought at 12-1 with only the 5 rivals it may be as good a time as any to chance the David Evans trained Redair.

    The filly is the most exposed in the line up, and her profile would not indicate she is ready to step forward regarding ability, however after being allowed to drift to 100-30 on debut last March was nibbled at in the betting to 11-4, suggesting she was going to run a big race on debut over Kempton’s 5F, which proved to be the case, over coming greenness looking like a nice type, with the potential to achieve more than she actually has. She backed that good debut run up by finishing runner up in the Brockelsby, as well as running well in another conditions event at Chester where she was well fancied in the betting in both contest’s. She started life off in nurseries off 78, and did run some nice races within a couple of pounds of that mark without really cutting the mustard. She was then dropped into claiming company on course over 6F last October, and only found 1 too good in an above average contest for that grade, battling right the way to the line going down narrowly, showing again an appreciation for the surface.

     She may well be just the type to make up into a 3 yrold, and breeding would suggest she should be right at home over the trip, if not another furlong. With the yard in rude health at the moment she may well be straight enough to run after her break, and returning back to a poly surface off her current mark of 71 makes her of small interest in this line up.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 15 Jan 12 10:59
Have you had chance to analyse last years results Robster to find where your strengths lie, ie) i notice that you put selections up in any type of race from a staying chase to a sprint on the AW, what type of race do you actually prefer?
By:
therobster27
When: 15 Jan 12 11:02
horsey, think facts more or less sum's it up...long term with a sensible betting strategy is the only way to even consider making any money at this game, and as for my excellent start I can only put that down to good fortune, I've been going through the cards with my usual approach, but this time around lady luck seems to be smiling on me in January..
By:
comingupthehill
When: 15 Jan 12 11:04
but I will endeavour yet again to see out the full year, and will hopefully be lucky enough to achieve the goal of double bubble come 31st of December.

pmsl


this years challange  a triple bubble(same sex).a bit more work invovled in sorting this out.
By:
therobster27
When: 15 Jan 12 11:07
stewarts my usual strengths going back a good few seasons have been big field class 2 sprint handicaps, but last year was not a good one in those for me. I usually try and stick to handicaps as a rule, whether it's the Grand National or an eight runner Southwell class 6 sprint, I have a similar approach to forming an opinion.
By:
Trident
When: 15 Jan 12 11:14
Listen Guys:  There are only a small percentage of people worth following threads on Betfair.

But this guy certainly knows his horse racing! I followed last year and made a tidy Profit.
Its all about small percentages in this game,as its very difficult to win on betfair.

Ultimately I enjoying watching horses run they are amazing creatures:_)
Personally I prefer your Writeup selections Robster to Timeforms,over the years Ive found time forms writeups misleading.

Gl this year Robster.
By:
Facts
When: 15 Jan 12 11:34
Interesting Rob - we appear to follow similar betting strategies. I only bet in hcaps - and focus on G1 tracks and  Class 1 -3 races. Contrary to your experience - last year was a good one with regards Class2 H'caps ( Both Flat and NH)- but particularly Flat over 5f-7f.
By:
jon b
When: 15 Jan 12 11:34
gl today robster, been thru this ones form and watched a few replays ,fav stepping up in grade and is short enough, your one def of interest back at kempton with a decent draw hopefully try and make all today  at a very backable price .
By:
therobster27
When: 16 Jan 12 19:12
Bet for day 17. 2pts E.W. Catch The Rascal 15.30 Folkestone 14-1 B365 BOG...write up to follow....
By:
therobster27
When: 16 Jan 12 20:07
Well having been on side a couple of the Seamus Mullins trained mares lately, I’ve decided to give another one of his a chance in tomorrow’s Folkestone 15.40, that mare being Catch The Rascal, ridden by Andrew Thornton.
   
      This mare made her seasonal and chase debut at Towcester early November, and for a good few furlongs in the early part of the race looked very fresh, with Andy Thornton struggling to get her settled. She did however in the main jump soundly, ballooning a couple, but looked a safe conveyance none the less and given a very easy time of things on her introduction. She was then turned out fairly quickly for her next engagement Lto over Plumptons 26F, and although there was only 4 runners Andy Thornton had her nicely anchored at the rear, given her every chance of seeing out the distance. However her race ended a circuit prematurely in front of the stands, Andy Thornton trying to make her mind up and she just didn’t come up for him. She was still travelling really nicely up to that point, with Thornton looking fairly happy with his game plan up until the fall.

     Tomorrow connections are going back right handed, where if truth be known looked more at home on her debut spin that way round at Towcester, and her only worth while hurdle form to date was behind her stable mate in January last year on course. Tomorrow she also comes back markedly in trip from that run at Plumpton, and may well be suited to Folkestone’s 21F over the bigger obstacles. I’m fairly confident she will be up to putting in a clear round tomorrow, and the ground should be perfect, s with the Mullins string still in good heart she should go well at a big price. On a cautionary note the fly in the ointment could be the Buckler gelding Mallin Head, who look’s to have been teed up for a punt looking at his hurdle run’s, and when last seen in the pointing fraternity was seen to good affect, beating a now rated 107 animal under rules and is in tomorrow off 79, and the dogs are already barking  around 16’s into top price 8-1.
By:
therobster27
When: 17 Jan 12 07:30
Result day 15.

Redair          Un Pl   -1pt

Profit / Loss           -1pt

Total                 219 1/4pts
By:
stewarts rise
When: 17 Jan 12 15:28
Well you're right about Malin Head and the money for it, good luck with the selection Robster,drifting!
By:
stewarts rise
When: 17 Jan 12 15:39
Well highlighted Robster, you know your Dark ones,(thinking back to Stingray last season), shame you didn't put that one up, would have been a shed load of replys!Grin
By:
plentyon
When: 17 Jan 12 15:57
Robster be another day for Catch the Rascal not given a hard race jumping better. You were there with the winner. You know your NH   Thanks
By:
therobster27
When: 17 Jan 12 17:02
Aye stewarts, last seen coming to grief behing Rowdy Rampage, no entries as yet but probably worth being on side this year, could be potentially very nicely handicapped.

In hindsight I should have maybe saved on him at 8's(Malin Head), but allthough he did appear to have been campaigned with a gamble in mind.... I'm a bit wary of the initial firms that were shortening him up, and will keep my thoughts very much to myself regarding bogus gambles.
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