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anyone remember these henry cecil horses
anyone remember these henry cecil horses
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"Wollow was a great horse, and I would nominate him as about the best youngster I have been fortunate enough to have had through my hands" HRAC 1983.
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anyone remember water cay
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Yep, may have raced in the same green and white colours as Be My Chief and Faraway Dancer, which reminds me - when Faraway Dancer ran in the Dee Stakes at Chester, there was an article in the RP about the lad who looked who looked after him. He was fighting leukaemia at the time but would be leading up the horse.I remember being around the paddock and hearing Michael Stoute's travelling head lad Jimmy Scott teasing him in jest with a 'you think your famous now' or words similar. Can't remember the name of the lad or if he managed to pull through.
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Salieri - decent but hammered by Gorytus
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These have probably been mentioned elsewhere but:
Kneller Diminuendo Indian Skimmer Opening Verse was one? Saumarez before he won the Arc Snow Bride - Lammtarras mom Peter Davis with 4 white socks and a camp owner! |
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years ago KATIE CECIL
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Round about 1978 or 9 he had a good one sounded like Afghanistan. Anyway finished second first time up when I suppose was expected and I had a weeks wages on it. Been trying to remember it's name for the last twenty years. Anybody help? By the way I worship the man. Just seems a very good bloke. Mentioned it before but after a days racing at Donnie a few years back he was in a big beigeie coloured Merc at the top of Town Moor Avenue at the lights opposite me in Doncaster and as I drove past him he smiled in that spontaneous way he does. Will treasure that moment for ever.
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I fail to comprehend some people's obsession with this man. As far as I can determine, he is a public school educated aristocrat who has trained racehorses for a living. Unless I have missed something, he is not a great philanthropist nor has he made any noteworthy contribution to the human race other than teaching horses to run fast on behalf of their wealthy owners. Nothing odd about not changing the course of the human race, this is the story for 99.99% of us. For liberator to treasure the moment when Henry Cecil 'smiled' at him at some traffic lights is more than a little peculiar.
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Amazing how two Scotsmen can be at different ends of the popularity ladder , namely Henry Cecil v Andy Murray
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Scimitara - fav for the Oaks I believe but unfortunately broke down. Cecil loved the horse and when it walked back to its box he didnt need to hold its reins as the horse was so relaxed and trusting. Hopefully she recovered to live out her days in the fields.
I remember Diminuendo. I was undecided on whether to back her or Dabaweya (sorry about the spelling) in either Oaks. For a young lad at the time, I had alot of money going onto Dabaweya. Needless to say, Diminuendo was awesome and I lost |
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Mr Fluorocarbon owned by Jim McAllister
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I remember working in a bookies in the late 80s and a bloke came in raving about one of Henrys horses that hadnt ran yet saying it was the best 2yo he"d ever had? we were all young and naive back then and got 1000/1 off my boss for it to win the 2000 guineas and the derby the following year? The horse in question was called GIANTS CASTLE and i dont even think it ran as a 2yo i think it made its debut in the wood ditton but dont quote me? Needless to say it didnt even run in the guineas or derby and i do believe it ended up over hurdles?
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reg Water Cay - Have checked, owner was the now late Peter Burrell who did also own Be My Chief and Faraway Dancer. His son now has a couple with John Dunlop.
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WAS AT YORK when dunbeath got turned over in mecca dante, the following race mr cecil had a winner malvern beauty, anyone have info on her afterwards
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a pleasing thread
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One of the best mornings of my life early july (july cup ) day on the limekiln gallops wiv Cecils string 86ish.
Henry on his piebald hack. Not a cloud in the sky blue sunshine stood @ the side of a guy wiv binocs who was calling out the famous horses as they went past Reference Point and Indian Skimmer (who was easy to spot) are 2 that stick in the mind. Cracking day. |
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geoff m 05 Aug 10 20:36
Indian Skimmer was a cracking filly One of my fondest memories is watching the Cecil string work on the Limekilns one superb July morning & followed them as they walked back across the top of Warren Hill with Indian Skimmer & Ref Point in the group. so you sayed |
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Got to chat with Henry a few times over the years and he was always interested to hear your opinion on his horses remember him asking where I thought Midday should run next as he held her after finishing work one morning.
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was you a work rider m8?
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I had horses at Warren Place
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Nice,hope they won a few.
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Deltâ 03 Feb 19 16:11 Joined: 12 Mar 02 | Topic/replies: 58,934 | Blogger: Deltâ's blog
geoff m 05 Aug 10 20:36 Indian Skimmer was a cracking filly One of my fondest memories is watching the Cecil string work on the Limekilns one superb July morning & followed them as they walked back across the top of Warren Hill with Indian Skimmer & Ref Point in the group. so you sayed Laugh Cant remember what i said yesterday Delta never mind 9 years ago. Never forget that morning tho!! |
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Alpha Tauri and Continuum still running. Another ex Niarchos horse in Ireland too I think? Name escapes me.... Any other ex inmates still on the go?
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Niarchos bloodlines ..
Study Of Man (IRE) 4yo (09Apr15 b c) Trainer P Bary Owner Flaxman Stables Ireland Ltd |
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5th to Roaring Lion, IRE Champions, previously won
3:15 Chantilly (FR) 3 Jun 2018 Qipco Prix du Jockey Club (Group 1) (3yo Colts & Fillies) (Turf) (3yo) (1m2f110yds) 1m2½f Soft 1st £758,495.58 2nd £303,451.33 3rd £151,725.66 4th £75,796.46 5th £37,964.60 Result Analysis My Ratings Past Winners Pos. (Draw) Horse / SP Trainer / Jockey Age WGT OR TS RPR MR 1 (6) Runner Jacket 10. Study Of Man (IRE) 4/1 Stephane Pasquier P Bary |
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VYxF7HXrRX0
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i remeber sweet chesne, sanquirico[ same season as diminuendo ?}and bluebook. I was at york many years ago, the dante meeting and i recall malvern beauty winning on her debut i think, anyone know if she ran again,( might have been a colt).
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An absolutely delighful thread, I've just read it all from start to finish.
Sir Henry Cecil, my hero and no doubt a few others on here think the same as me.  |
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elisjohn • August 12, 2010 9:52 PM BST
this is a great thread, im off tomorrow on 10 days hols, med cruise im trying to let my other half to let me take laptop, anyway keep this thread going and has someone got a winner for me tomorrow whats this newmarket 6.35, too drunk too read most of this post. Brodie • August 12, 2010 10:51 PM BST frankel is a cecil horse that is well bred and runs in the 6.35 tomoz at newmarket mate. PFtrader • August 14, 2010 9:08 PM BST Quoted on the Cecil website A delighted Cecil said: “That was very good and he has done it easy. I hope he can come on for it and go on to better things. “We shall stay at a mile with him and look at races such as the Royal Lodge and the Racing Post Trophy.” |
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turned out ok didnt he, that why sir henry was the greatest trainer of them all, he knew
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1984 Epsom
 May be 1st decent horse he trained for that owner before a temporary split. Don't think he had horses in stable 1986-1990 |