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I think we've been saying this for a while now HK, nothing new really. John Moore is full of confidence, seems like he's here to prove a point more than anything.
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Just making myself feel better Mr D I'm up to one of my biggest wagers ever on him and likely to add more so just making sure I'm not the only one on him, and at 4.1 I can't resist adding to it!!
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It's not that HK, just some posts from a few others which are a bit odd!
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Haven't nearly all Moore's best previous highest grade winners been ex British/Irish horses that were far from the top level when racing over here? Is he some sort of equine magician or is it just that the best races don't take as much winning over there?
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Jamie Spencer speaks today in the RP. He mentions that he finished 7th behind AF in the HK mile last year and was amazed by his turn of foot.
He is siding with AF but mentions that the straight mile on one of the most demanding tracks is the unknown. Jamie is a good judge and a hold-up-merchant jockey (head waiter). He messes up many a mount with his tactics. I can't believe that AF is now 4.1 and I am tempted to lump on, good luck to you HKAccie. Shame you will not be at the track. I will and will be looking to play up any AF winnings on Finnegan in the Coventry - won over 5f doing 56.84 on turf at Pimlico. Good luck all....... |
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The likes of CDA, Darjina, Cityscape, Giofra etc couldn't beat the handicappers in Hong Kong so maybe JM and some of the other trainers there are magicians. Cityscape beat Sommerabend by 2 lengths as well which is a funny coincidence, like Solow and NOT.
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Well the waiting and anticipation is nearly over and congratulations all on a great thread. Am on Toormore since after Lockinge and I think Hughesie is going to make this a real stamina test from the front and try and blunt Able Friend’s turn of foot over this stiff mile. With Solow having the ability to race handily (has made the running- “That didn’t go as expected, as he is used to going off in front, but he was bumped at the start and Olivier gave him a fantastic ride,” trainer Freddy Head after the Daniel Wildenstein) he will be up with the pace 2f out, and James Doyle is not going to want to get to the front till well inside the final furlong this time on Night of Thunder and I see him tracking Solow. I just can’t have Singspiel getting a top class miler out of a Highest Honor mare and in Solow’s case especially on fast ground. All things considered it will need a monumental effort from Able Friend to get to and pass all of them. I just hope that Hughesie nicks a length or 2 off Maxime Guyon whose record at Ascot is not too good, and he holds on inside the final furlong to beat his stablemate. Good luck all.
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Straight mile - expecting a fast pace throughout the race. Can't see AF keeping up with the pace and imo he will be too far behind to catch up strong finishing horse like solow on a testing track like ascot.
Other possible negatives, had too many races, first time traveled from HK, track. Good luck all. |
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The stiff straight track will ensure a win for the French raider, its not rocket science fellers.
1 SOLOW 2 N.O.T 3 TOORMORE |
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N O T to place 1.77 looks a cracking play to me
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AF does has decent form over 1800 and 2000 in HK where he was run down by Designs on Rome so can't see the Ascot mile being an issue for him, I've been tempted again by the 4.1 and my blind faith as I'm taking the travel factor out of the equation and think AF would be a lot shorter if this was being run at Sha Tin (a fool and his money!!) I wish I had waited for the 1.53 place though as that's a lot bigger than any of his SP's in HK this season!! Good luck all...just hope it's a good race and there are no excuses....I've got a sneaky feeling Toormore is going to run a big race and will have a money back saver on him
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Turftrax readings this morning Standside 8.5 Centre 8.3 Farside 8.5 Round 8.1. Much the same as first day last year but slightly faster on round.Looks like rails slightly faster, as usual.
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There's a sh1t load looking to be laid at 3.95-4.1(44k)
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AF 7-2 now, time to play! Same price he was a few months ago, when we didn't know for sure he was going to make the trip.
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I'm in again MrD......what is that they say about a fool and their money!!!!
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I like your style HK, all guns blazing... it's the Hong Kong way!
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Yes - it's a bad trait i've picked up since I moved there in 2008.
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I've got Solow at 3.0 (I hope) on HKJC to get some of the stakes back and also Toormore ew currently at 24 win 2.5 place on HKJC....NOT is currently 12.0 on HKJC too so that could also get a small stake if it stays at those levels.
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It's only money HK, you can't take it with you!!!
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I tell my wife that MrD.....the only trouble is it's her BF account as she's the only one with a UK bank account now so she sees the traffic.....luckily I've had a few winners recently and everything has doubled up on to AF, also I'm in the UK so I can back him the traditional way with cash!!
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![]() Brilliant HK. |
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i'm forgetting the foreign two the Ascot mile won't suit them - Hannon's pair for me
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French 1-2
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Whoops.....
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As with all e/w bets to nothing NOT finishes 4th.
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solow surprised me
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Mr T knows what I am.
AF Looked terrible at the start, never seen him in such a state. Plenty got it right, well done winners. |
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wd winners shame the filly couldn't get up sl@g...looked like the hannon horses didn't back up on the fast ground
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The disappointment MrD is that he didn't run his race at all which is what we wanted to see......wonder if Solow will come to HK in Dec as he's a gelding too isn't he so be good to see him for round 2. Anyway, as you said you can't take it with you....luckily I got some back at 2.7 on HKJC, but lots has gone up in smoke!!!
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cant believe how keen N O T was race was perfect with the tormoore pace, and AF possibly blowing out... Cant believe he's not got placed
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The race looked lost at the start for AF, didn't look good at all. That's horse racing!
Solow won a shade cosy and I keep underestimating him. Freddy is normally spot on and he proved it again. |
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after seeing AF at start i double my place bet on N O T lol
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Hahahaha - MrD, my mate in HK had the tricast in the King's Stand as he was given the winner as a tip by his doorman at work!!
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Well done Solow backers. I needed to see him do that before I was going to believe in him. NOT was a bitter disappointment.
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Well done Solow backers. I needed to see him do that before I was going to believe in him. NOT was a bitter disappointment.
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Saved on Solow but great shame that AF let the occasion get to him. That's not his form.But what's the excuse for the Hannon pair?
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Pete Doherty could pass a test in that part of the world.(only jesting)
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Aiden no doubt happy the nervous work rider of Couger finally had time of sick.
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Apologies if I missed the most Sandown but hope you mentioned the saver bet on Solow prior on the thread!
I think the slow pace allowed the Fabre filly to get so close. Against her own sex she'll be a force but is slightly flattered by that run, imo. Though she does have good form with Integral who runs today. The Sussex is apparently next for the big grey beast. Would love to see him over 10f in the Eclipse or something. |
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*the post
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