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You beat me to it Mr D - I was going to ask the speed figure gurus what they thought of his time figures as I'm no expert either and they seem pretty good to me?
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Solow runs this weekend in the Prix D'Ishapan vs Cirrus.
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Yep, this race should sort of tell us whether or not Solow is as good as he looked in Dubai, old Cirrus Des Aigles will give him something to think about if both are declared tomorrow morning. Gailo Chop is also pencilled in for this and he's a horse I liked last season but he wants soft ground, it will be an interesting race.
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Quite looking forward to Able Friend here...only problem would be him adapting to this stiff straight mile especially but it's a good challenge for him...would also need to raise his game a little to make sure of putting the Europeans away on their own patch.
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Morning ELG - don't think the stiff mile will be an issue, was 2nd to Designs On Rome over 9 & 10f last year but the beating European horses on their own patch will be the very hard part.
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Able friend will be tested that is for sure, so any doubts some of us may have about the horse will most definetly be answered, different turf, more resolute horses around him (NOT and Solow),what is the prizemoney for third?
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With Able Friend rated already in the 134 region, this promises too be the warmest contest of the year, if he runs his race and say NOT beats him ,NOT could well be rated higher than Kingman?(WHAT A RACE)
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Yes, but that would just mean Able Friends rating would have been incorrect in the first place as NOT was inferior to Kingman by several pounds.
I can't help but feel NOT has gone up in people's estimation since his Lockinge win but all he has really done is run to his best/near it, which was enough to win the race. He is very good and consistent but no world beater like Kingman. |
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Some will say he may have improved? but I agree with you sintonian.
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AF is only rated 125, he was 127 after the Mile in December NOT was 121 at the end of 2014, think Solow is rated 124 now. Interesting to see how NOT is rated after his last run - that should be known just prior to the Ascot race.
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Trainer Freddy Head is concerned that Solow has yet to be tested ahead of his clash with Cirrus Des Aigles in the Prix d’Ispahan at Longchamp on Sunday.
Solow was an easy winner of the US$6 million (Dh22m) Dubai Turf in March and beat Irish Champion Stakes winner The Grey Gatsby, who runs on Sunday in the Gold Cup at the Curragh, by more than four lengths. The win at Meydan Racecourse brought Solow’s aggregate winning margin to almost 17 lengths from his past five victories. Read more: – Night Of Thunder strikes hard on Godolphin debut at Lockinge Stakes – Moore’s the merrier after capturing 2,000 Guineas and 1,000 Guineas Cirrus Des Aigles has left some of Europe’s best horses in his wake over the past few seasons. Some of those high-profile scalps include Solow’s stablemate We Are last time in the Group 1 Prix Ganay at Longchamp three weeks ago. That was the first time in eight years that the remarkable mount of Christophe Soumillon had won a race on his seasonal bow. The signs are there that the evergreen nine year old is as redoubtable as ever. With Gailo Chop, Pollyana and Sparkling Beam the only other runners in the race it is likely that it will come down to a head-to-head battle between two horses rated alongside dual Arc heroine Treve as the top ranked in Europe, according to ratings organisation Timeform. “It is going to be a real tough race, a real test against Cirrus,” Head said from his Chantilly base. “He was very impressive last time and at the age of nine it is quite extraordinary. “It is a re-entry for us. I stopped his training after Dubai for a bit so he will have to be at his best to win. “Solow has never had a real test. He has won his races really easily. “He has never been challenged, never here at home either as he is better than any horse in the whole stable. “It is easy for him every time.” Cirrus Des Aigles is likely to take the lead early under Soumillon, while Maxime Guyon will have to decide as late as possible when it is best to sneak past Cirrus Des Aigles without getting engaged in a battle of wills. The bigger picture is that Solow has the Queen Anne Stakes at Royal Ascot in focus and a tough race against Cirrus Des Aigles could easily dash those hopes. After that, Head hopes to give his charge a summer break before lucrative autumn targets, such as the Breeders’ Cup or Hong Kong, ahead of a defence of his title in Dubai. Head won the Ispahan three times as a jockey and has won it twice as a trainer with the brilliant Goldikova. Solow is a gelding and Head hopes his charge can forge a long career such as his main rival, also a gelding, who had already run seven times at Listed level and won a Group 2 and Group 3 race before Solow was born in 2010. “I am very happy with him,” Head said. “He has taken his race in Dubai well and seems in good form. “He’s a Group 1 horse, that’s for sure, and he could be very good.” |
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Wow, pretty impressive from Solow. Head would have left a bit to work on there too.
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He was impressive again, travelled strongly and quickend well off a pretty strong pace. There are still question marks for me though.
Gailo Chop ran a great race after a long lay off (August) in his first European G1 race. Reports from Soumillion say he eased CDA after one of his shoes broke off during the race. The Grey Gatsby didn't do much for the Dubai form today. Is 8F Solow's best trip? I think 1m 2f would be his optimum trip the way he has won over 9F... Freddy knows a lot more than me though!!! ![]() |
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I agree with MrDinos, he was comfortably on top at the end but I didn't learn anything about him I didn't know beforehand. With CDA obviously running below his best, a three and a half length beating of Sparkling Beam was no more than expected.
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SOLOW B ABLE FRIEND WILL BE THE RACE OF THE CENTURY...........TWO MACHINES
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Think he could win QA or POW
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Very comfortable win but only did what he was entitled too.
I agree about the POW Sint - if Free Eagle were to miss the gig then with The Grey Gatsby looking out of sorts Solow would be a clear favourite for that, whereas he has two very strong rivals for the Queen Anne. |
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i think free eagle is overrated
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Head says QA is the race, no mention of the POW at this stage, so if they do go for the QA I hope the Wertheimers have the sense to put in a pacemaker as he'll need a strong pace. They often did with Goldikova.
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Hopefully there is some pace in the race as AF needs it too.
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Able Friend cruises through Royal Ascot trial.
02/06/2015 HKJC Website Able Friend completed a straightforward barrier trial assignment this morning, Tuesday 2 June, as trainer John Moore continued the five-year-old’s preparations for the Group 1 Queen Anne Stakes (1600m) at Royal Ascot two weeks today. The big chestnut will depart for England on Saturday ahead of his 16 June engagement and both his trainer and his jockey, Joao Moreira, are of the view that the world’s current joint highest rated horse is right where he needs to be. “Joao said he’s 85-90% there now and with two weeks up our sleeves it’s just right on schedule with how I’ve trained him for his previous big races. All in all I’m very pleased with the outcome of that trial. He’s at the end of his prep so when we get to England it’ll just be a case of fine-tuning him,” said Moore. Able Friend camped at the tail of the eight runners and travelled smoothly across the Sha Tin turf. After turning into the straight, the gelding made steady ground down the stands’ side rail, slightly apart from the other runners, as Moreira allowed him to roll through the climax of the 1600m trial with zero pressure. The Shamardal gelding, a four-time G1 winner this season, crossed the line a short-head second behind the local G3 winner Packing Llaregyb in a time of 1m 37.74s. “He did that nicely, he’s done nothing wrong and I was delighted with how he travelled. I was actually very happy he didn’t trial in an outstanding manner. That means he is heading to his best when we need him to be. He’s done extremely well and I think he’s as good as or even better than when he won the Champions Mile, so I’m going to play safe and go with he’s as good as,” said Moreira. The Brazilian’s only concern heading into the elite contest down Ascot’s famous straight mile is couched in the uncertainty of whether or not the horse will flourish after travelling half-way around the world, with a transit time of about 21 hours. He has no worries about the horse coping with the idiosyncrasies of a new racing environment. “He’s the type of horse that whatever you try to teach him, from the top, he just picks it up right away,” said the Brazilian. “He’s a very smart, intelligent type of horse and I think, being so professional, he will take it easily. The thing is that it’s his first trip overseas from Hong Kong and that’s the only thing that concerns me, but, at the same time, I’m confident that he can handle it because he is so professional, he’s sharp and he’ll know what he’s there for. I’m looking forward to it.” As for the opposition, Moreira is not taking his rivals lightly, especially Solow, the French star who blew away his opponents when winning the G1 Dubai Turf (1800m) in March. “Based on Solow’s win in Dubai he looks like he’s the main danger to our horse but obviously we’ve got to respect the other horses in the race. But at the same time I’m full of confidence for my horse, he’s been good to me and I have a lot of faith in him.” Moore expressed his gratitude to the Hong Kong Jockey Club for staging the unscheduled mile turf trial to aid Able Friend’s training for the Queen Anne. “I’m very grateful to the Jockey Club for putting on this mile, it was very necessary to make sure that we go into the Queen Anne with a horse at the top of his game. We’ll wait to see how he is after he cools down and he’ll be trotted up this afternoon,” he said. |
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Wonder if he brought him up the stands rail on purpose - just as a slight education for Ascot
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You could be spot on with that HK!
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Barrier trial is online if you're interested http://www.hkjc.com/english/press/btrs.asp it's the 1st one.
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AF = 5/2 second Fav guys.
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http://www.hkjc.com/english/corporate/racing_news_item.asp?in_file=/english/news/2015-06/news_2015060600943.html
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The big fella is on his way... hopefully he has a safe and relaxed flight.
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Looks like Able Friend has had a good flight via Dubai... Paul Robinson of HKJC tweeted a picture of him stretching his legs at Heathrow Airport, looks in great shape after 21+ hour trip!
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What's the forecast like as he's left 30+ degrees and 80% humidity behind so hopefully he'll be finding it more comfortable!!
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Pleasant/warm weather here HK, dry week forecast with similar temperatures for each day, roughly 18 - 20 degrees. Looks like next week will be the same as well... crossed fingers the forecasters are right for a change!
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Bet 3.65 are now NRNB on all races
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Some money for Integral today.
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http://www.hkjc.com/english/corporate/racing_news_item.asp?in_file=/english/news/2015-06/news_2015060801726.html&b_cid=EWHPJSE__
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Looks like Integral is going for the Duke of Cambridge which she won last year. The money was mis-informed.
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PP money back as free bet up to £50,if 2nd/3rd.
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I've taken a look at the figures for this Able Friend as he has been flagged up on here. Thanks to the HKJC all the sectionals and videos are available and I must say that I am impressed.Very impressed.
He weighs in at around 13000 lb and is 17 hands. His turn of foot is such that for his last 4 races his last 2 furlongs have been sub 22.0 and he has hit 21.35 which is motoring.He looks like he hasn't been flat out either although that might be deceptive. It seems that HK races generally have fast closing fractions but this horse is hitting the best figures consistently. Its difficult to peg his a speed rating but using a couple of known horses (like Flintshire) I have the feeling that this horse might be in the 130+ category, no problem.OK he is facing a straight mile and he has travelled. But he is likely to get his fast ground (only Fri f/c rain) and although I am a fan of Solow, I think that ASF should be the fav. as Solow might be better on good to softer ground and even he hasn't reached AF's figs. I can't see NOT or anything else living with this pair. I'm on now at 3.4 and will follow up on the day.An exciting horse and a good race in prospect. |
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I'm surprised this race is not getting bigged up in the press more. It looks phenomenal.
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Agree sintonian, but momentum will gather,it really is the great race of the year(thus far) I wish Chrome was in this, you could not have ruled him out.Can't wait.
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For me this is the race of the meeting... and what a way to start it all off!
Enjoyed reading your positive feedback on Able Friend Sandown. Good Ba Ba's track record at Sha Tin is 1.32.71 (Hong Kong Mile G1 2008), Able Friend has done a 1.33.50 on the bit. Good Ba Ba at his peak was a top class G1 miler and multiple Hong Kong Mile winner and AF's times compare very well with Good Ba Ba, carrying the same weight. I believe this fella is one of the best I've seen and I still don't think he's reached his peak performance yet, we could see something very special Tuesday and I just hope the track (Stickels Watering Can) and flight don't put a dent in his performance. I might be wrong but visually along with his sectional times at Sha Tin he looks rock solid IMO. Solow has been very easy on the eye in his races the past year and will be a stern test for Able Friend but I still have my doubts about him as posted previously on this thread. |
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Night Of Thunder strikes me as an ultimately limited racehorse, an up market, one paced grinder who needs a strong pace and a stiff, straight mile. His Group 1 record in such circumstances: 121.
Solow: Able Friend: There's the rub. Both rivals strike me as essentially more talented types than NOT and it goes against the grain to be thinking of backing him with a decent sized bet against these two arguably unexposed rivals. But ..... I find Solow the easier to oppose. He's a short price on visual impression rather than any meaningful top class form. I make him much the same horse as NOT on ratings, with RPRs giving Solow one pound in hand. Ok, Solow has looked like there's more to come, but what has he beaten? The one paced Grey Gatsby at a track never likely to suit Kevin Ryan's horse, and Cirrus des Aigles who palpably ran no sort of race. And is Solow a top class miler? His pedigree screams no. He has looked flashy in trouncing half decent rivals on his last two starts, but both were over 9 furlongs, a trip at which it's easier to look pacy against stayers if you've got some finishing speed. How much will he find at the end of a gruelling mile? Will he fancy it? I don't know. At the prices, you're taking a lot on trust, and you may be right, but you can't know this will be his idea of fun. Able Friend could just be different class, but he's done all his running at one track, around bends. A fast run mile on a straight track will be a new experience for him. He's another one who has won cosily, and I am indebted to Sandown for the data that suggests there is real substance to his form on the clock. Again, though, I am getting 6-1 on a horse who has had the ideal prep and who is likely to run the best race of his career on Tuesday. NOT will run his race, setting a very decent standard and it will take a very good miler to beat him, and a truly exceptional horse to beat him easily under the prevailing conditions. The prices suggest one or both of them will beat him easily, which makes no sense to me. NOT is the value and I'm having my maximum bet on a single horse (I usually back more than one in a race). |