All I have to decide now is do we take two or three F&M hampers?

Ground now officially Good. They must have had about 7-8mm at a guess.

That will stop the CoC watering tonight and should dry out quickly by race time tomorrow.

What is the weather for tomorrow? Hopefully another hot one.

Where you going All?

forecast fine for tomorrow, did n't look like any showers or thunderstorms in vicinity, a bit cooler than today but not much.

there does look to be a risk of more heavy rain at around 6pm today though.

agreed mate, weve had our overseas holiday already, this is all the family so about 40 of us going, not my cup of tea tbh but at least I can sneak off for a few bevvies first stop when we get there is ladcrocks to watch the KG

Amazed people still trying to push this as the best KG in several years, when in 2012 you had...

Danedream- The Arc winner
Nathaniel- The KG and Eclipse winner
SNA- The BC Turf and Coronation Cup winner
Dunaden- The Melbourne Cup and Hongkong Vase winner
Reliable Man- French Derby winner
Deep Brilliante- Japanese Derby winner
Masked Marvel- St. Leger winner
Sea Moon- Two G2´s, and twice G1 placed.
Brown Panther- G1 placed.
Robin Hood- Pacemaker

some nice coastline in that part of the world

Can't see it being fast ground now even by 3.50 tomorrow. Good news for most, not so good for Telescope.

Taghrooda's dam has plenty of form on Soft/Heavy. Sea The Star's progeny have some form on cut too which is no surprise given he is a half-brother to Galileo who gets plenty of Soft ground winners. Think Good or even GS would be find for Taghrooda. The rain will affect Tele's and Magician's chances the most.

I would not be surprised if Mukhadram is a NR, 12f on GS will take it out of him. If it does not quicken enough by tomorrow they should save him for York imo.

sin fair point in regards taghrooda...however wasn't gosden making noises before the oaks in regards the filly needing fast ground?? swear he did...glad i'm not involved yet tbh

Apologies - I take that back, it was the other filly tarfasha that wanted good/firm...going senile, this is what he said before the oaks



Gosden believes that his Shadwell-bred filly with appreciate the mile-and-a-half trip at Epsom.

“She is a very nice filly. People are quite correct to question the form [Pretty Polly Stakes]. You win by six lengths and it is not your fault if the others do not go on,” he said during the Breakfast with the Stars event.

“She has gone nicely here this morning [Paul Hanagan in the saddle] and soft ground would not be her favourite but she handled it. I feel the step-up in trip will help her. However, I think the Investec Oaks is a race with great depth. It is a race where you can make a case for at least half a dozen to win.”

when you read his quotes and then analyse his horse's pedigrees, you feel like you are in a parallel universe.

they've had 7mm and might get a couple more showers early this evening according to forecast (for what that's worth!) - then dry and very warm, supposedly dries out well so surely every chance of fast side of good by 3.50pm tomorrow - no excuses really although I appreciate there are one or two who would prefer it lightning quick. He was gonna put a few mm on later anyway.

I can see where you're coming from with Muk, sint and Haggas has form for pulling 'em out on day of race but would think Sheik Hamdan will make the call, they could do with finding out if he stays 12f because it will open up other avenues plus no guarantee of fast ground at York either - on the other hand, he looks to have a massive chance in the Juddmonte especially if Australia waits for the Champion Stakes.

Little bit of rain for eagle top nice....I know he won on firm at ascot but this is a different ball game know and with his pedigree a bit of cut is not a bad thing.

The rain has arrived for Eagle Top to guarantee his participation, but not enough to turn the race into a farce, so now it's just a question of whether or not he's good enough. I hope he is.

The best King George I've seen 'in the flesh' is still my first - 1984. Teenoso (ironically proving he wasn't a soft-ground freak) winning from a host of top-class others : Saddlers Wells, Sun Princess, Time Charter, Darshaan, Tolomeo, Jupiter Island ......

Will be good, good to firm in places by race time, look at the temps for tomorrow!!

Agree, DR, that's assuming the forecasters do a better job than they did for today. The time for the first race today was very fast, so even though the rain had a significant impact on the ground, slowing it considerably, I still didn't make it good to soft by the latter races, even though it was obviously kicking up on top. The ground was slower on the round course, as is often the case, the 10f handicap was slowly run but judging by the 1m Listed fillies event the going still couldn't have been slower than good.