source reported as Jayne Moody?

This is why every trainer should employ an excellent secretary, who has a real enthusiasm for the job.

Supp entry is 100,000 Euros.

I would imagine that the entry is already made and they are simply not released until tomorrow

I saw on Equidia that they seem to be linking Mosse with Kesampour, it's hard to tell as I dont speak french but he was mentioned when they were discussing Kesampour, they had all Aga Khan Arc bound horses working together from Royer Dupre and Delzangles with the Aga Khan yesterday, it's on Youtube, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wUlIZhQjRo

Thanks Phil - this horse has been very quiet in the market (very little news as well) and has been TOO big to lay, so I've kept him onside.

He was my St.Leger horse when I saw him win last Spring and he looks a real stayer who'll appreciate a bit of cut...a typical Aga Khan 3yo, who's far from exposed.

He looked a really good horse early this year up to the Greffulhe when he beat Saonois on heavy ground before the French derby, I didn't think he ran too bad in the French Derby and the Niel where he just got tired in the last 50 yards after a lay-off, Delzangles made excuses for his run in the Derby due to sinus problems. The ground at Longchamp will suit him better I think and he could improve and and reverse form with Saonois with a stronger pace and ground conditions in his favour, Ive backed him at decent prices and a lively outsider if all the predicted rain comes, it's soft currently.

I Agree he doesn't have a turn of foot but he travels really well in his races and grinds, he was carried quite wide in the French Derby and lost quite a lot of ground to Saonois, though he did when smartly he was less than a length behind. On quick ground he wouldn't stand a chance but with it looking like it's going to be soft you never know, I can see him being ridden prominently and keeping out of trouble.

It's a shame Nathaniel is out as I think it would have been perfect for him, I may back SNA & Camelot if they go out to a decent price on the PMU with all the money that should come for Orfevre.

Kesampours trial run caught my eye too.

J A P S have a pacemaker in aswell.

Great job he did in the Foy There definitely needs to be more than one because if one goes off too quick the rest of the field will ignore it.

Well I read that Soumillon was screaming at the other jockey to go faster.

That someone was me and to be honest I think I was right on the money because JOCKEY and TRAINER said it was the perfect prep race. Why would any good trainer make his horse run hell for leather in a prep race, it's just bonkers. I'm sure Ikee (trainer) knows the pace will be stronger in the Arc, the Prix Foy was used to take the fizz out Orfevre and teach him some Longchamp lessons. The stronger the pace the better but if it was a slow run race I wouldn't be bothered because he has speed to burn, the Prix Foy and all his winning races in Japan prove that.

My only worries are the draw and bottomless ground but I think I've got a good back up with Yellow and Green if the ground goes very soft!

Maybe Ikee told Anthony Crastus to go a steady pace and AC over did it a bit but I'm confident that is what they planned! I don't know why people are moaning about the pace in the Prix Foy, it was perfect for Orfevre's preparation. I couldn't give a stuff about the other horses in the Prix Foy, the pacemaker did what he had to do for Orfevre.

There is a lot more to come from the monster, this fella is awesome. Soummy singing is praises after his work out today, Sunday cannot come soon enough for me.

I haven't got a clue Roobuck, but I do know the monster can be highly strung before and after races so he might be used to keep him company going down to the start to try and keep a lid on that. He's had a couple of issues this year but he looked settled at the start of the Prix Foy and didn't pull too hard during the race. I'm confident Ikee and his team have got him where they want him now!

You and me both Roo, the ground is a minor issue but it was Soft ground in the Japan Derby and that didn't stop him.

Ballydoyle and Godolphin have used pacemakers to brilliant effect in the past!!

re Great Heavens:

William Buick should have ridden four-year-old Nathaniel in the Prix de L'Arc in Paris on Sunday. But Nathaniel is deleted. Wednesday Reviewed by trainer John Gosden's 3-year mare, Great Heavens - with Buick aboard Sunday.

- It was really bad about Nathaniel. He stands with a fever and an infection. Blood ratio is not good, says Buick which then sits up on a different horse after wonderful mare Magnificient Style - which also made percussionist, Norwegian owned U.S. Grand National Champion. After review from Gosden and owner Lady Serena Rothschild cost the tidy sum of 100,000 pounds.
But it is not small change in the pot at Longchamps; giant 2250 000 awaits the winner of the Prix de L'Arc, Europe's most prestigious horse races in distance is 2400 meters.
- They had not reviewed by if she had been without risks. I won the Irish Oaks at the Great Heavens. She is not ranked as high as Nathaniel, but we have not beaten in advance, says an offensive William Buick to rikstoto.no.

I'm with Orfevre but there are a couple of considerations to be aware of.

First, the ground. The times in Japan of his races suggest very fast ground. Even the so-called soft ground win was in a time that we would call good ground.His action is not that of a soft ground horse. Having said that,I don't think it will be soft ground. The weather forecast is good  for Sat/Sunday and the French descriptions of ground don't match ours. The race on Sunday will be run on  20 metres of fresh ground up the straight , not been used for weeks/months. It always rides faster than on the Sat.

Secondly, the tactics employed are invariably to hold him up, and were overdone when he was unplaced over 16f. His breeding does not indicate bags of stamina despite the win over 15f in a slower time than his other races, but he did finish in a fast split. I think 12f is his ideal distance.

Thirdly, and of greater concern, is the way he ran out when just beaten into 2nd. They had him on the pace in that race and  he seemed to be unsteerable going round a bend. He must have lost 10 lengths and was amazing in getting back into the race. He would have won 10 lengths otherwise. No doubt Soumillon wll hold him up and that may mean that a wide draw would not be a huge problem, but he wil need luck in-running.

this gosden 3yo great heavens is slightly worrying me , i didnt get chance to even evaluate it.

little bit worried because it looks like its been the horses main aim, plus its won comfortably in its last 4 runs.

kind of hard to evaluate but how they have messed about with nathanial is making me think that it could have even improved further.

mmm, little bit worried that orfevre's price has settled to same price prior to withdrawals this week..hmmmm.

ffs, might have to have an interest bet on gosdens...just cant believe how much ive been a mug ive been if its been the aim since the spring for great heavens.

Sandown, don't worry about the monster being un-steerable, he hasn't got a powder puff Japanese jockey onboard this time. The more I watch that race the more iffy I think the ride was from Kenichi Ikezoe. Very odd, especially down the final stretch (hardly trying) but one of the most sensational things I've seen from a horse. It was like he was at the Velodrome doing a turn in a team pursuit.

Totally agree about Sea Moon. Of the older horses he is the one i think has the best shot of winning the Arc provided a good draw and he is ridden closer to the pace.

However it will be hard for the older horses though as there is at least one outstanding 3yo in the field and i have a feeling that we will see the real Camelot at Longchamp. Something tells me that O'Brien has pulled a fast one here using the Leger as a prep for the real target which was always the Arc. Camelot didn't have a hard race in the Leger probably with Sunday in mind. It is also strange that O'Brien has adopted the typical French prep by giving the horse a summer break after the Irish Derby and bringing him back in September for a prep prior to the Arc. Booking Dettori also shows they mean business.