Thanks RK - where is that 'confirmation' online?

Very strange, as there's been renewed money for Sea Moon at a more 'normal' price (32 last matched) whereas a day or two ago, he was on the drift, and touched 75 on here

PS - Imperial Monarch a probable?
Also, I though Gatewood was Melbourne Cup bound?

This game gets harder by the day!

www.horseracingnation.com/race/2012_Canadian_International_Stakes

Ah crossed-wires there. It was in the Racing Post.

actually , Masterstroke Arc price of 32/1 is probably too big.

Its win at Deauville that day was very cheeky.

if you want to watch  click link and move to 35m 25s

http://www.racinguk.com/video/watch/planet-turf-august-2012

all of the french races are on there from August

agree Bazzar,

The form of Danedream with regards to what is in black and white speaks for itself.

That Arc win by Danedream is the best performance ive seen since Harbinger winning the King George and its been proven by the 6 runners behind him that day coming out and winning Group 1 since.

punters sometimes forget the basic facts when it comes to pure performance of a horse and how to rate it against its peers.

If it was guaranteed that Dandream would be run on her merits and is being made 100% fit for the race then she 100% certain that she has to get placed in the Arc solely based on capability, i would be in no way surprised if she wins back to back Arcs if this is the case.

However, as we are not going to get 90/1 and 48/1 like we did last year i can only contemplate of having a value saver on danedream with regards to making a book on the race.

this is why i love the Arc, im sure a lot of us Arc fans can make a very good book on the race and guarantee profit each year.

Its been quite easy to make a good book at this stage.

Main Bet :Orfevre 19/1, 20/1, 22/1
Savers to get stakes back: Danedream 6/1,Nathaniel 7/1
Outsider: Sarah Lynx 1000/1


Just had my last bet on the race too..
I've just had 100 on Masterstroke too at 32/1, I'm completely guessing on this one , going solely on visual clues from its last run.

Sintonian, of course she was not knocked about in her races, THIS SEASON.
Last season although the trainer knew he had a good horse, he was not sure,
hence no entry in May for ARC, it was BADEN-BADEN that was clincher wher
she finished 13 lengths in front of a horse that had won the Canadian international,
from a previous winner of that race, this after a rout at HOPPEGARTEN.
Only one poor ride from STARKE in Japan cup, but he was in  unknown territory,
he would ride the course better now. NOW DO YOU BELIEVE that her 4th behind MEANDRE
was true form, because I don't?

Ok you mean this season. Last season she had a couple of tough races, the RP in-running comments for the race at Cappanelle are enlightening.

Good trial for Orfevre. Should improve and needs to.

At the time I was disappointed with her first run in France this year but it turns out it was quite clearly not her running, or even a prep, and i'd agree the jockey was easy on her.

Was impressed with Saonois ,quickened up nicely once the gap appeared,always a potent weapon to have

Yeah you imagined it.

thanks sint

Shareta clearly improved a lot from last season. But has she improved enough to make up the ground on Danedream?

Liked orfevre's performance. He looked pretty fit pre-race. Travelled well ,cornered great showed a good turn of foot then cocked
his left ear to one side checking the others out once hitting the front. Classy effort. Against that he clocked a 25 length slower
time than shareta and will face a very different test in the ARc. Although he won once with cut in the ground he looks like he's
better on top of the ground. Not sure what his true price for the Arc is at this stage, 5/1 maybe right and would want 7/1 plus
to consider backing him at this stage. If he picks up a decent draw and the grounds decent this then will alter his price.
Have shown no great judgement in this race before so am a bit tentative but reckon Orfevre is going to put up a big performance.

The market dont seem to think thats very significant, but thanks for the pointer.

The slow pace of the Prix Foy wouldn't have suited Orfevre at all but his pace maker made it a slow race for a reason and that was not to give Orfevre a hard race. The race was used to take the fizz out of him before the big one but he still managed to show a good turn of foot and quickened up well from last to first. Perfect prep and just what I hoped for.

His trainer knows what it takes to win an Arc and I have every confidence he will get the monster cherry ripe on the day to show his real capabilities. The more runners the better because from all the races I've seen him run in he looks as if he thrives on that kind of racing. I agree I wouldn't like to see really soft ground but I would be more than happy if conditions were like today.

I never take timings of the French trial races seriously, the Prix Vermeille was a proper G1 race with a bigger field so the pace was always going to be stronger and more of an actual race. Another good performance from Shareta which gives more strength to the older generation winning debate.

Yellow and Green is one to keep an eye on Sint, Nicolas Clement rates this filly highly and they thought she would run a big race today. I was going to back her each way but the draw (13) really put me off. I didn't see the race but it's good to know she ran well, one to remember for future races!

Try a search on YouTube.

Baz - sorry mate...can't help you out.

I've tried AGAIN but that site is impossible

One piece of advice...make the link below your saved bookmark, as you can at least find some information.

http://www3.france-galop.com/index.php?id=103&L=1

The French really do like to do things their own way

PETE THE BLOKE your question was answered yesterday, of course it was NO.

His current price is 9/2 generally. How much do you think the J A Panese will shovel on? Could be a 2/1 favourite ..