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TTF! RACING POST GUIDE TO THE JUMPS inc TEN TO FOLLOW JUMPS 2010/11 books
TTF! RACING POST GUIDE TO THE JUMPS inc TEN TO FOLLOW JUMPS 2010/11 books
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Got this from totesport
 Hi During the Bonus window we need to suppress the leaderboard containing ‘selections of the leaders’ as it would be considered unfair to publish their Bonus horses selections while the window is open. However the overall leaderboard, minus selections was published in yesterdays Racing Post and will appear again in Friday’s edition. The online leaderboard will available again early next week. Regards, tote Ten to Follow W: ttf.totesport.com T: 0800 666 160 |
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I've made a list of horses to use as subs.
But it doesn't look too inspired. **scratches head** |
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I know the feeling.............
10 lists in Top 500 so need inspiration! IMHO It basically revolves around a) play safe or b) take a high risk alternative |
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With ten lists you can afford to mix it up a bit. We really have only three in contention.
Interesting that Solwhit now goes for World Hurdle. |
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done my bonus list at last....must say it is a great weight of my shoulders..now wait for Racing Post to say scratched..stood on a stone!!!...good luck all
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I was hoping they'd keep Solwhit ready for AIN as the 2 1/2 mile race is usually a weak affair and should be an easy 25 pts. He doesn't look like a 3m horse at this level(perhaps non-testing ground at an easy course) and his only trip to CHL was disappointing.
I've got four lists in the mix, so going to shake it up a bit. Still searching for a true dark horse. |
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Time For Rupert looks quite solid. I can only find one to give him a race. The only risk would be a fast pace and large field forcing some jumping errors. Think he was the last horse I scratched.
 Not so convinced about Finnan's Rainbow... |
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Same here REM..had Time For Rupert in my original lists and replaced with Reve De Sivola..what a total muppet!!!
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Yep. I seem to have a knack of making wrong decisions at the eleventh hour.
I always used to include a few novices before the RSA and Arkle became 50 pointers. For the last few years I've taken the view that these are open races and that they are ideal for subs. What happens is that the hyped horses pick up enough points before CHL to merrit inclusion and come CHL I need to sub in for the other races too. TFR's 2nd to Big Bucks was stand out form and it was just a question of will he jump. (Yes he can.) |
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We had very little to do with novices when compiling our original lists, thinking that they we're excellent candidates for bonus horses after we saw how the season unwould, so most of our subs will be novices and Ryanair horses.
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Bonus horses selected and input safely!
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All done and dusted. Had to go big with TFR and jumbled up the rest. Disappointing that so many of my outside fancies are not in the comp. Surely as they have a transfer window for Cheltenham they should at least add horses to the comp who feature prominently?
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I can feel the Cheltenham tingle already.
 Good luck everyone. |
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Just finished mine.
Can't believe that my idea of the Grand National winner (State of Play) isn't in after being placed for last two years. |
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Who's going to Cheltenham this year? JOCI Club will be there for all four days cheering on our point scorers!
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Mine are done - cant believe how many horses are not in the list to be picked - this used to be 1000 horses then 600 then 500 then 400 ! about 75 are injured horses, horses like AEGEAN DAWN, Ainteenthirty not in - they have trimmed it too much - this transfer window has about 12 horses you can really pick and very few dark horses - Website needs a revamp as well- always thought at this tage they should add horses that have suddenly appeared and novices and 4 yr olds - quick qestion , how many horses are in the contest in the Racing Post Chase?
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Dunno but remember noting that the outright 2nd on leaderboard had Nacarat on his list
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God, I had an awful dilemma with which horses to pick. I changed my mind at least 20 times but now its done. Put in Poquelin instead of Albertas Run as my Ryanair horse after changing my mind at the VERY last minute.
BTW, the third placed fella has Nacarat! |
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Could do with Nacarat getting beaten then!
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Here is what the top ten have picked - very interesting choices me thinks and most people taking a few risks except the leader !
https://ttf.totesport.com/TTFLeaderboards/LeaderBoard.aspx?CompetitionId=14&PrizeId=1&LeagueId=0 |
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You're right ad man, there are so few horses available to pick from, looking at the leaderboard's subs confirms this. From my own selfish point of view, they have vastly reduced my chances of any success as already had TFR, Medermit and Jessies Dream in a list in top 100. This list also had 10 scoring horses, therefore any of my subs' points (if any) will not count in full
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Like you guys..I was wanting to put in TFR BUT thought if Iwas to have a chance of getting in the money I had to take afew risks...so my strategy involved afew fancied horses like Menorah and Riverside Theatre mixed in perms with afew of the lesser lights such as Wayward Prince, Mourad and Fiveforthree..my thinking being if anything goes wrong with Big Bucks then hopefully one of Mullins two could take advantage...risky I know but a miss is as good as a mile!!!!Good luck all
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Correct - a miss is as good as a mile and I suspect the further down the leaderboard you go the more speculative the subs will be, the leaders have been very protective and cautious, probably too so imo, one or two outsiders and they're there for the taking
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There are a couple of people who have a lot of lists left so their perms will be huge Buzzword has a load of perms i would think - if i could pick a list the guy in 2nd would be the one i would take anyway good luck boys
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Cheltenham can sometimes be more difficult if you're in contention for a prize in the Ten To Follow comp. A few years ago, after Rooster Booster won the Champion Hurdle on the Tuesday, we were in 2nd place overall in the competition. Sadly, our list didn't have Moscow Flyer, who came out and won the Queen Mother on the Wednesday, aided by the two other contenders at the time (Latalomne, and another horse) falling either side of him a couple of fences from home. So it went from elation to despair.
Eventually finished 13th, but would have been top 10 had Rooster Booster not been short headed at Aintree a couple of weeks later. Going into Cheltenham in 54th place, so without great expectations, but rather a slim chance. so hopefully the nerves won't be too bad. |
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I have that many lists that I don't really keep a close track on them all, but some of my lowest lits overall seemed to have far better chances at Cheltenham,(in respect of current betting markets anyway). I had a few with less than 200 points that have a horse below in the first half dozen in the betting in a 50pt race. Low pointed, short priced horses at the moment include Imperial Commander, Binocular, Captain Chris, Somersby, Big Bucks. And of course Denman and Kauto Star - and I wouldn't write either of those two off.
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MESSAGE FOR JOCI..Just out of curiosity my best list is on 411 and contains the following... Hurricane FLY, Master Minded,Binocular,Big Zeb,Long Run,Diamond Harry,Finnians Rainbow,Big Bucks, Denman, Kauto.....as you can see similar in many places to many people.....my 2bonus horses are Menorah (think he is the likeliest winner of Champion) and my wild card is Wayward Prince..also have alist on 396 with the dreaded Reve De Sivola...just out of interest what was in your list on 413?
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List on 413:
Binocular Hurricane Fly Big Zeb Imperial Commander Long Run Kempes Big Buck's Punchestowns Golden Silver Weird Al Poquelin * Time For Rupert * List on 400: Binocular Peddlers Cross Master Minded Kauto Star Long Run What A Friend Big Buck's Solwhit Golden Silver Diamond Harry Poquelin * Time For Rupert * List on 381: Binocular Hurricane Fly Master Minded Kauto Star Long Run Imperial Commander Big Buck's Big Zeb Solwhit Denman Riverside Theatre * Time For Rupert * |
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I like the look of the 381 list...best of luck
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Alderbrook - with your bonus selection for your first list, you've done something I wouldn't consider doing: you selected a third Champion Hurdle horse, when you already had the 1st and 2nd favourites (in Binocular and Hurricane Fly) in your list. I'd have definitely left it to those two, and then targetted another bonus race e.g. Ryanair with my spare bonus horse, which would have given you full coverage of the 7 Cheltenham bonus races. It may well pay off for you however, so let's wait and see.
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Iknow but I really do fancy Menorah and saved my Ryanair horses for my lower lists...risky strategy I know but worth a punt
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Risky, as you have 7 horses tied up in 2 bonus races (Gold Cup / Champion Hurdle).
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A Menorah win would be horrible for us, as we were no big on him at the start of the comp, and as we had two Champion Hurdle horses in each list, could not justify bringing him in as a sub horses when we had 2 / 3 bonus races not covered.
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Those of us without a Racing Post Chase horse in our leading lists will be hoping the race fall to one of the following (non TTF) horses:
Crescent Island Mostly Bob Saqualrique Polyfast Safari Adventures |
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Its over a season , JOCI let them win if they get a chance - the horse who wins this wont get that many more points for me ! I have a list in 16th - dont fancy it to win as think Cheltenham winners will include Menorah, Denman,Kempes, Master Minded but already had these races covered so you have to go with what you have -
Hurricane, Cue, Big Z, Big B, R Theatre, Long Run, Imp Comm, Solwhit, Silver by N and Golden Silver - subbed in Time for Rup and Finians - have other lists in top 100 and mixed them about a bit more Medermitt Gigginstown horses, etc - Tried to take a learning from a past comp where I left out Our Vic at sub stage, sometimes the obvious is a route best served - gob smacked that the ten leaders have not done the same - mind Buzzword has so many hovering lists that he must have loads of the top horses covered.I hope mine goes on to Aintree with a chance its all about fun really and it does save/cost you more in not backing some of your selections in races ! |
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Pretty happy with the outcome of the Racing Post Chase - could have been worse I suspect. Another bullet dodged.
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JOCI - unbelievable!
If your list on 381 wins you'll be sharing the prize with me. TFR & RT subbed in to an identical list.  |
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I should be so lucky to share 1st prize!
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I wouldn't say no to sharing first prize.
But not holding my breath.  |