Have WAF too, only hoss not to score any points for me so far. Doubt very much he'll run in either RP chase or the GN. Not even too confident of him winning today to be honest[:(]

what do yee reckon is the minimum score ud want to be on now to have a chance of winning ?

That's not right - that's more like the overall winning score.

Now, I'd say you wouldn't want to be much below 380.

Was a minor setback, but Golden Silver on Sunday is of greater importance!

Tony don't think it's all to do with bonus horses. A lot of it is down to getting the right combination of the bonus winners at Cheltenham, and perhaps the Racing Post Chase winner thrown in there too. For example, neither of Kauto Star nor Denman have scored any points yet, and a first and second for them in the Gold Cup will move thousands of people up the table significantly. Similarly, combining this with the Champion Hurdle, Queen Mother & Ryanair winners will send lists soaring (especially if they are won by horses with few or no points at present). World Hurdle not so important, as almost everyone will have Big Buck's.

The bonus horses will have importance as far as giving you the opportunity to get the Arkle or RSA winners too. However, I think subs will actually incrementally help lists that are further down the leaderboard, as those at the top will possibly already have 9 or 10 scoring horses. If their bonus horses do pick up points, it will only benefit them by the difference between what they score, and the lowest scoring horse you already have in your list.

You're in a great position though at 406. We're just behind you.

Golden Silver won!

I think it's 20 as the Euro prize was €30,225, and the exchange rate would be about 1.13 which would make £26,748, which equates to 20 points (the ex rate might be a bit different as I think it might have been re-evaluated in January). He could also get a few extra € following the defection of the 4th enetred horse, Scotsirish, with 4th place prize money going to the winner. Do't know if that would be enough to take the prize above £30,000 (doubt it).

Because the bonus window is open.

Think they must close it to prevent you looking at the opponents lists.

How are you doing now?

Ask JOCI nicely and he will show you what the leaders have....

well done Joci...if Wierd Al does the biz that will put you right in the mix..very best of luck

When will leaderboard be updated?

Nice going chaps. It all happens at the festival for me now. Too many GC horses, but if I perm the subs I've a good chance of hitting some more points - although I suspect lots of lists will do likewise.

Been looking at the last five years of Aintree results and there are very few horses that perform there after winning at Chelts, with many swerving it altogether.

Link not working on site but got it here

https://ttf.totesport.com/TTFLeaderboards/LeaderBoard.aspx?CompetitionId=14&PrizeId=1&LeagueId=0

https://ttf.totesport.com/TTFLeaderboards/LeaderBoard.aspx?CompetitionId=14&PrizeId=5&LeagueId=0

REM
21 Feb 11 11:24 Showing subs!


I know, lets hope none of the leaders read this

Best for me is 175th

Nacarat to win the RP Chase and I've just subbed in Medermit and Wymott for the novice chases at The Festival.

Well you've got to love a trier haven't you?

[;)]

unlucky Joci..I have dropped to 67th on 411 points..thinking our only chance is to have a couple of 20/1 bonus winners...I must have changed my mind 20 times already

Its intriguing really who will pick what etc - huge chance that the leader doesnt have enough in the locker for me - Bonus horses from him/her  will be interesting - it is all down to the Irish horses if Golden Silver and Hurricane Fly win then the leaderboard wont change much if they dont then the 400 pts will probably start to fly.

I am not sure what horses to put in at all and have some great placed lists - do you hunt for a grand national winner? do you look for horses that will win at both Cheltenham and Aintree ? can you cover the bonus races? bet safe or go long ? Interesting to see who has put what in already.

Trouble is chosing obvious subs will not out-fox all th ehigher placed lists. Chosing something obscure carries the risk of a total blow out. But hey, I think I have to gamble now (note to self, be braver at the start ( didn't I say that last year?)).

Obvious subs if you dont have them are:
Binocular - Champion prepared for one race
Master Minded - Somersby far too close for my liking
Big Bucks - is it possible that Grand Cru can beat him
Finians Rainbow -
Time for Rupert - banker for a lot of people

Now as the records of favs under 4/1 is so poor circa 8/9 from 60 in the last three years and Big Bucks is two of them !

Gold Cup is hugely competitive
Champion Hurdle is between three
What can win the Arkle and the RSA will be on most peoples minds - Time for Rupert and Finians will be massive choices for people me thinks