If I was looking for a couple of outsiders I'd have to go for Maqaasid @ 33/1 even though she will probobaly not quite stay - just on class she is as good as any of these imo and I think it's quite intersting that Gosden is persevering with her at the trip.

Also Zoowraa, assuming she runs, looks a big price @ 30 on here given her undoubted potential - and the stable are bang in form.

Interesting point you make about the going on Arc day.  Stephane Pasquier, who rode Helleborine in the Boussac, reported that the ground was too sticky for his filly, which suggests either that he was just making excuses for the defeat or that the ground had only dried up on top and just beneath the surface, leaving quite a testing and tiring surface.  The winning time for the race (1:42.50) was very slow, compared with recent renewals of the race won by Rosanara (1:37.20), Proportional (1:36.00), Zarkava (1:37.00) and Finsceal Beo (1:34.90).  The winning time for the Arc was also very slow (nine seconds slower than Sea The Stars the previous year and 6½ seconds slower than Zarkava's winning time in 2008).  The 7f races are difficult to assess time-wise, as I'm sure that the '7f' course at Longchamp is actually quite a bit shorter than 7f (the winning times often appear sensationally fast, compared with races run over a mile plus)! 

I grant you that Wootton Bassett's pedigree suggests that he should be at home on good or fast ground and that he might not be best on a softer surface, but you never really know until they race on it for the first time.  Goldikova seems quite versatile ground-wise and the horses that finished close up are all proven on soft ground.  I completely agree with you about the misleading nature of official going descriptions in France, and I also take the point about the warm weather and drying wind, but the evidence suggests to me that the ground was still riding on the soft or 'sticky' side.

1000 Guineas is never easy ad can be a bit of a lucky dip when it comes to staying. Funny enough I decided to have alook earlier today and came to much the same conclusion as Unclepuncle on Masquaasid.

She showed an excellent turn of foot in her final race but was run out of it in the closing stages looking like she may not have stayed but there's no guarantee that was the reason.

She ran a similar race over a shorter trip and that may be a sign she needed to mature and strengthen up a bit. No idea how she has come on through the winter but if she's strengthened up I could see her going very close.

To be honest I don't even know if John Gosden will run her but if he does I'd say 33/1 is worth a bob or two.

Memory looked out of the ordinary last year and I'm surprised she's not fav but like most of these she's never ran at the trip and may not stay.

Richards Hills said he hoped she would run very well the other day on RUK, fwiw, so presumably she runs.

Misty For Me 7/2 a place.

All previous 8f runners as 2yo who won 1000 had won or placed in Group race at that distance. That only brings in Immortal Verse and Misty For Me this year.

O’Brien stable has only won it once (Virginia Waters) but the going was Good/firm and MFM won the Moyglare when Memory was 6th (Evs fav).
The Moyglare is not a good guide to 1000 winners with only Sayyedati winning 1993 but that had won two group one races, like Misty For Me

Cant really get my head around this race, may end up leaving it totally alone as there is imho no real angle for the race as i see it, i could pick six of the runners and still not get the winner

The way Frankel won the Guineas and with the front runner winning the Palace House stakes must be positives for Hooray and Moonlight Cloud.

I still like Maqaasid at 38 and even though there are obvious stamina doubts I have had a bit more on. A really classy fast filly who travels sweetly (even in the Cheveley Park she was cruising 2f out), stable in good form today too. Reckon it could trade a lot shorter in running

With 19 runners in a very open race it's 5/1 the field, which is more or less what I was expecting after the trials.  I'll be surprised if there is a sustained gamble on anything tomorrow. 

The ground seems to have gone against Laughing Lashes (weak in the market) and the vibes don't seem too good for Misty For Me.  I'll be surprised if I Love Me proves good enough (she needs to improve markedly on her juvenile form last season) and the same comment applies to Cape Dollar (disappointing in her trial) and Make A Dance (can she really be another Ghanaati? I somehow doubt it).  Empowering is not good enough, Blue Bunting will be too slow (needs a longer trip), Together has had numerous chances but has yet to show she's got either the speed or the class to win a Guineas.  I can't give any realistic chance to the outsiders Show Rainbow, The Shrew and Elshabakiya.  Barefoot Lady won a substandard Nell Gwyn and is reportedly in great form, but there was nothing in her form last year to suggest she would be anywhere near classic-winning standard.  Maqaasid has prospects of reversing the Nell Gwyn form with Barefoot Lady and remains an interesting prospect on fast ground, but she still hasn't achieved enough in five races to suggest she's up to winning this (even allowing for the stamina doubts).  Nova Hawk has been running on heavy ground and was impressive last time out, but she's likely to struggle on the much faster ground.

That leaves the front four in the betting (Moonlight Cloud, Memory, Hooray and Havant).  Some of Stoute's horses have been running poorly of late, which is a concern, and it wouldn't surprise me if Havant, who has a middle distance pedigree, will end up having to try to make up ground on speedier fillies who may not be stopping in the final furlong.  Hooray is the best filly in the race, based on last autumn's form, and must have a great chance if she gets the trip (the fast ground will help her in that respect): she probably doesn't need to improve on her Cheveley Park Stakes performance to win this.  The vibes are very positive concerning Memory and it's hard not to be enthused by the confidence of trainer and jockey.  She should get the mile and goes well on fast ground.  Moonlight Cloud showed her well-being in the Prix Imprudence, once again showing the brilliant acceleration (albeit off a slow pace) she showed last year.  She is very highly regarded and the only slight doubt is her ability to get the mile off a true pace (which seems guaranteed with a large field of runners).

It's an open-looking race, and there may be traffic problems with 19 runners spread across the track, but the speed fillies should dominate and I'll be a bit surprised if the winner doesn't come from the first three in the market (Memory, Hooray or Moonlight Cloud).  The betting market, on this occasion, looks to have got it about right.

Good luck everyone.

Laughing Lashes is a massive drifter (out to 26).  Hooray continues to shorten (she is the Price wise selection in today's Racing Post).

Yep. Pathwork was 11/1 before the off yesterday in the 2000, mid-week he was 13/2.

This has been a terrific thread to read, lots of very good comments and observations.

Result......I haven't got a clue. Will throw a few quid at I Love Me for some interest in the race, but too many question marks at front of market to form a strong opinion.

Good luck to all

Harrington's yard dont seem to back their runners though do they? Either that or they don't know when they are at their best. Oscars Well was 7/1 when it destroyed Zaidpour at Leopardstown in Feb for example.

I think that Laughing Lashes is cracking value now and have had a few quid on at 25s to win. They were a lot more glowing about her than Pathfork from what I've read. There is every chance she can improve back past Misty For Me given their respective profiles as others have eluded to before. At 25s compared with Misty at at 11.5 ish it's a bit of a no brainer to me. LL drifting off the back of Pathfork's run has really made the value IMO. Pathfork beat the likes of Roderic O'Conner easily yesterday yet there is no drift for the O'brien runner. Just because LL is from an unfashionable stable and Pathfork only finished mid div in a freakish Guineas yesterday where the form of anything bar probably the front 3 is pretty worthless has meant the price has become massive. LL has no less chance than she did before yesterdays 2000 and therefore the price has become worthwile IMO.

My small AP bets on the Channon non runners came to nothing so I'm afraid I have to come clean and say that I've jumped on the Moonlight Cloud band wagon after the value has gone[smiley:crazy]. My only bets are Moonlight Cloud at 6.8, LL at 25 and Elshabakiya to place at 23.

I think the Brittain runner could be todays Dubawi Gold. She was slowly away in the Nell Gwynn and shaped as though the stiffer test would suit. She ran well in her run previously when just touched off by Dubawi Gold. I would rather back her to place at 23 than the likes of Barefoot Lady to win at the same sort of price. Everyone said that last years Nell Gwynn was a poor renewal but Jaquelins Quest came out and ran a blinder in the 1000 having finished 7th in the Nell Gwynn. I think people can easily discount the form of the trials too easily and with that in mind 23 to place on a horse with reasonable form that 2 runs back was a head behind the runner up in yesterdays 2000 makes her a solid place bet IMO.

I expect Blue Bunting to run a big race at the prices and Skybet 4 places 1/4 odds at 33/1 looks fair value - open race.

nice one secret .well done.

Maqaasid ran exactly as I expected, classiest horse in the race but simply didn't stay - I left a lay bet at the off at 5/1 so at least got my stake back.

Well done secrtegambler - good call.

Great shout, secretgambler.

Great shout Secret

The 1st three could be better at other distances as well!!!

Nice call secretgambler, 600 quid down here not a bad result combined with yesterday Moonlight was cut across immediately coming out of the stalls by Cape Dollar writing was on the wall for her straight away.

This is why I put less effort in with the less predictable fillies than the colts.