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Hope you havent backed it pinza, seems like its a nonner
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^ The May Hill is only a Group 2.
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From the Godolphin website:
WHITE MOONSTONE TO MISS QIPCO 1,000 GUINEAS 23 April 2011 White Moonstone has been withdrawn from the Group One QIPCO 1,000 Guineas at Newmarket next weekend. The three-year-old filly pulled up stiff after her work this morning and is currently undergoing a veterinary investigation. Godolphin racing manager Simon Crisford said: “Unfortunately White Moonstone is not right and we need to find the cause of the problem. She definitely won’t be able to run in the 1,000 Guineas.” |
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Has Moonlight Cloud been 100% confirmed for the race yet?
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JamesP ... you have excellent knowledge on the fillies, but not the colts. Your insights are good however though every horse that might run in the Guineas has been given a mention on this or the Helleborine thread, the emphasis re chances of the current market leaders in the context of other runners chances has been weak or negative. Think you were in denial over Helleborine playing down Moonlight Cloud unfairly imo after the Imprudence and trying to associate them as having similar ability hoping to get a run with Helleborine. That is fine as I am sure if you had Moonlight Cloud at the head of your book you may have been calling a different tune you are not daft.
Even though you are posting with some stalking clueless essay writing mugs on these threads it is good to see your insight on here. Good luck with your book on the race hope you come out with a profit. |
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FFS - talk about damning with faint praise
 .He advised Helleborine at something like 16/1 and Moonlight Cloud at 40/1 before the majoirty of poeple on here would have ever heard of them - please show me any thread where you have highlighted any horse not already at or very near the head of the market. I'm equally sure James views on the colts race will be just as enlightenting and appreciated by the rest of us - I remember him tipping up Canford Cliffs at 12/1 for the Coventry not so long ago. |
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eric your becoming like the drunk at a party everyone wishes would go home.
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Hey JamesP
With Frankel flying the flag for Abdullah, Hills was unsure about plans for the prince's Rerouted, one of 19 horses left in the 2,000 Guineas at the latest acceptance stage, but offered a great deal more confidence for the chances of another Juddmonte homebred, Make A Dance, in the 1,000 Guineas 24 hours later. "She's been a little slower to come to hand than some of the others but she worked this morning under Ernie Johnson and she went very well, so we're right on course for Newmarket. I'm starting to really like her chances," Charlie Hills said. What do think of her chances now and what her odds are likely to be ? Have 2 left in Gns races her and Fury. Keep up the good work James as there are obviously many who appreciate your astute views. |
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why do you keep turning down the chance to prove yourself against some of ''clueless mugs'' then, Eric.
I have offered you £500 of my own money, IF you could beat my P&L. The truth is your a phucking scroat with no backbone. You are an absolute guesser and the evidence is all over these forums. For goodness sake, pipe down and stop inventing things, because no one believes. I still recall, fondly, the Quel Espirt thread, wherby you backed three horses in a 7 runners race (Irish Arkle) and still came out potless. Meanwhile, several of us, lumped on the Winner Realt Dubh, all posted BEFORE the race was run. Please go and get some help you utter fool! OR TAKE UP MY OFFER. |
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Whats laughable Eric, you backed Moonlight Cloud AFTER the Imprudence, and posted on the thread '' I wish I had taken the 20's''. That is a cry of a pure Guesser.
You have no idea what you are doing, so let people get on with what they want to do without ridiculing them, dragging up old posts, and generally being a meddling imbecile. |
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Sintonian, Eric is past helping, if he were a dog he would be put down.
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JamesP disagreed with me on Canford Cliffs pre Guineas he didnt think he would stay the mile. As we know Canford Ciffs ended up Champion Miler. I had Canford in a 4 figure bet the Guineas posted on here giving you an idea of what I thought about him staying. Hannon didnt have him spot on for that day. I also said St Nick wouldnt win the Guineas whereas JamesP thought he would be suited very much and have a very strong chance the Guineas. The threads are on here to prove all this.
uncle puncle you never cease to amaze me what a mug you are. |
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Advising 40/1 is not the point it is the stregth with which (and therefore the amount you have on it to move it to a pecking order in your book) you assess it in the context of the other runners that matters, bits at 40 to have her say 6th in your book is not good imo, on top of advising against Memory first on thread and also not knowing Havant was going Guineas until I posted it up.
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eric_morris
Date Joined: 27 Jun 10 Add contact | Send message When: 23 Apr 11 15:42 Joined: Date Joined: 27 Jun 10 | Topic/replies: 2,978 | Blogger: eric_morris's blog JamesP disagreed with me on Canford Cliffs pre Guineas he didnt think he would stay the mile. As we know Canford Ciffs ended up Champion Miler. I had Canford in a 4 figure bet the Guineas posted on here giving you an idea of what I thought about him staying. Hannon didnt have him spot on for that day. I also said St Nick wouldnt win the Guineas whereas JamesP thought he would be suited very much and have a very strong chance the Guineas. The threads are on here to prove all this. uncle puncle you never cease to amaze me what a mug you are. Nobody gives a sh1t about your fictional past bets. Noone gives a stuff about some handicap good thing you backed of HRAC's in the 90's. All you do is gloat, aftertime, and act like a phucking coward. You have the chance to take £500 of my my money, if thatis not enough, then I will go to £1000. All you have to do is beat my P&L. How hard can it be for someone as clever as you ? Take up the challenge or take you delusion to another forum you silly individual. |
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back to more important issues!
Katla, who was beaten 5.5 lengths last time out behind Empowering, placed 2nd in a listed races at Cork today behind Inxile. |
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And by the way, stop deluding yourself you were the first to know about Havant going to the Guineas. Firstly, you backed her 3 weeks ago straight after Stoute had been interview in the Racing Post. Secondly, he said she was being aimed for the Guineas after her win in the Oh So Sharp stakes.
sintonian Date Joined: 21 Sep 04 Add contact | Send message When: 10 Oct 10 09:50 Joined: Date Joined: 21 Sep 04 | Topic/replies: 12,462 | Blogger: sintonian's blog Re Havant .. I got the impression Stoute would like to aim her at the Guineas first up next season. He seemed quite keen to do so in his post-race interview. |
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How much money someone has on is a total irelevance - even if James made it clear he never has a bet it dosen't stop his excellent insifght and analysis much appreciated.
Nobody else on here even mentions money (huge bets,4 figures, blah, blah, blah) you seem obsessed with telling us how big a punter you are - why do you think anyone cares? |
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eric_morris
Date Joined: 27 Jun 10 Add contact | Send message When: 07 Apr 11 17:34 Joined: Date Joined: 27 Jun 10 | Topic/replies: 2,978 | Blogger: eric_morris's blog Damn knew should have taken the 20s. Taken 8s to go with 12s Havant against the field. Cry of desperation. Also NO mention of Memory and he in facts suggest he has tow against the field. A thorough liar and it's about time Betfair got this sucker banned for all his insults and claims of horses being injured to protect his his ante-post positions. |
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eric_morris Joined: 27 Jun 10
Replies: 2978 23 Apr 11 15:47 Advising 40/1 is not the point it is the stregth with which (and therefore the amount you have on it to move it to a pecking order in your book) you assess it in the context of the other runners that matters, bits at 40 to have her say 6th in your book is not good imo, on top of advising against Memory first on thread and also not knowing Havant was going Guineas until I posted it up. This is getting very tiresome. Although you only have my word for it, and I can assure you that I am not generally one to invite open derision for 'aftertiming', let alone reveal details of my betting habits, I can confirm that the bet I placed on Moonlight Cloud was £600 at 40/1 with Korals (bet placed on 9 September 2010). I'm happy to email a digital image of my account statement to anyone who doubts my word and wishes to see it (if it's not against Betfair rules to share email addresses on here...) As for Canford Cliffs and St Nicholas Abbey, you can crow all you like, it doesn't bother me. I'm perfectly content to admit that I (along with many other far better judges than me) got that one wrong. I had doubts about Canford Cliffs getting a mile and he proved me completely wrong. (I did, however, point out that he was great value for the Coventry at 16/1.) Everyone gets things wrong now and then, but not all of us are prepared to admit to fallibility. |
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I didn't back Canford Cliffs in the Coventry, James but do remember the thread. And I also remember Hibaayib in the Fillies mile and discussing it with you which I did back(on the thread). This Eric fella is real fruit loop and the fact he turns down an offer to take money off someone he thinks is complete ''mug'' tells us all we need to know about his betting credentials.
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btw, Koral are going 6/1 on Laughing Lashes.
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Jamesp, You are one of a few people I take notice of on here. I find your comments very helpfull and consider them when placing a bet. Keep up your good work.
It is a pitty members of the forum cant invite other members to their private forum within betfair. Maybe its worth considering setting a forum up outside betfair, whereby we can keep idiots like Mayweather and Eric out. |
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£600 @ 40/1 - now thats what I call taking a position. Though we all realise Eric wouldn't bother wiping his arse with a betting slip worth that paltry amount
 Outstanding early call James  I only have £200 @ 8/1 which I'll lay off (yes thats an arb Eric) to recover my stake money, hopefully at about 7/2-4/1, for a nice free bet. Sorry if that makes me a mug[;)] |
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There's nothing wrong with hedging (for a free bet) if the odds have worked heavily in your favour.
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Eric's been trying to lay off his Havant bet all week
He arbs alright. |
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Why do people think he's left the forum before, everyone cottons on to him. James has always done a comprehensive write up and debated fairly with everyone on the merits of Racehorses, and whats more all and sundry get things wrong, bar one person!!
Then he has the cheek to talk about ruining threads!! Eric reckons he was in betting offices with a handheld 25 years ago, can you see a man of now must be at least 40 continuing to write this kind of stuff?? |
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25 years ago with his hand held. More like 25 days ago with his hand being held.
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Oh btw Eric, all my bets on politics forum a few hours before the race on the Ayr thread
2 losing races one £68 f/c one 14-1 Winner HOURS BEFORE THE RACE, NO AFTERTIMING, STAKES OUTLINED |
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Its what he was holding in his hand in the betting office thats quite scary.
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James
1. Nice bet! 2. Block the fool. You're hardly going to miss anything important are you? |
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DD - I have stated quite a few times over the years (including when he was KirkStMoritz) that Eric actually does have some original and intersting views and clearly knows a fair bit about form, history, betting, etc.
But for some reason he has to willy wave all the time claiming he has the best prices and the biggest bets and then after the race somehow claims not to have lost even when a compeltely unconsidered horse, like Makfi last year, wins the race.  |
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You may be correct Uncle but I have made my choice (and on balance prefer to read James's views than Kirks).
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JamesP I have no reason to question yours or anyone elses bets on here. Your stake size reveals to me you may just have covered your total stakes on the race with your bet on Moonlight Cloud based on some of my books of the past and also bearing in mind Helleborine was your number one in the pecking order and how you played down Moonlight Cloud after the Imprudence. Hope you do have her for a good profit as well as covering your entire book on the race.
I have her to win virtually the same amount but she is my number one my 3 horse book which is quite efficient at this stage (may not stay that way). You can block me I have no problem with that. I not only cover the fillies Classics but also the colts Classics and Cheltenham and build up so pick up quite a few offended by my predictions including Captain Chris the Arkle recently in most recent antepost markets going against forum good thing Finians Rainbow. This cannot be avoided unfortunately and the friction follows me around. There are a surprising number of children masquerading as adults on here who cant accept it when they get it badly wrong. jamesp Date Joined: 05 Jan 02 Add contact | Send message When: 23 Apr 11 17:01 Joined: Date Joined: 05 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 811 | Blogger: jamesp's blog eric_morris Joined: 27 Jun 10 Replies: 2978 23 Apr 11 15:47 Advising 40/1 is not the point it is the stregth with which (and therefore the amount you have on it to move it to a pecking order in your book) you assess it in the context of the other runners that matters, bits at 40 to have her say 6th in your book is not good imo, on top of advising against Memory first on thread and also not knowing Havant was going Guineas until I posted it up. This is getting very tiresome. Although you only have my word for it, and I can assure you that I am not generally one to invite open derision for 'aftertiming', let alone reveal details of my betting habits, I can confirm that the bet I placed on Moonlight Cloud was £600 at 40/1 with Korals (bet placed on 9 September 2010). I'm happy to email a digital image of my account statement to anyone who doubts my word and wishes to see it (if it's not against Betfair rules to share email addresses on here...) As for Canford Cliffs and St Nicholas Abbey, you can crow all you like, it doesn't bother me. I'm perfectly content to admit that I (along with many other far better judges than me) got that one wrong. I had doubts about Canford Cliffs getting a mile and he proved me completely wrong. (I did, however, point out that he was great value for the Coventry at 16/1.) Everyone gets things wrong now and then, but not all of us are prepared to admit to fallibility. |
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The more predictions I get right in the past, the more abuse I get when opposing horses others may have backed in current races as they do value my opinion but have a strange way of showing it. The ones on the same as me keep quiet the rest give me abuse on here.
 Good luck on the Guineas JamesP you can always expect an honest opinion from me on here (regardless of the potential abuse that follows) it helps tune all of our antepost abilities at the end of the day for those prepared to listen. |
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Dark Destroyer
When: 23 Apr 11 19:18 You may be correct Uncle but I have made my choice (and on balance prefer to read James's views than Kirks). Amen to that[;)] eric_morris When: 23 Apr 11 21:07 Your stake size reveals to me you may just have covered your total stakes on the race with your bet on Moonlight Cloud based on some of my books of the past and also bearing in mind Helleborine was your number one.. James I also really hope you had less than £24k on Helleborine so that you might scrape a profit from your Moonlight Cloud bet - give me strength I'm actually pleasantly surprised Koral laid you the full £600 @ 40/1 - I'd have expected them to offer £50 at the price and the rest at 20/1 or something similar. |
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Dark Destroyer campaigning for Helleborine to run in the Guineas when she was fairly beaten was very upset when this was pointed out to him. He must surely live with his mum and still refuses to put his coat on when it is raining.
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so lets be clear .. James has £600 at 40/1 .. yet Eric has staked enough on MC at less than a quarter of those odds,8/1, to win the same amount ??
This guys delusion is absolutley incredible, and it is so sad, he genuinely thinks people will believe his crap. £1000, Eric, You vs Me, you wouldn't stand a chance. But I guess that is why you keeping baulking like we expect. |
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And don't foget the £3k on Moonlight Cloud is just part of his 'efficient book' - with the caveat that this book may change (once he know the result obviously
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Stagerring levels of delusion Uncle.
Not sure why he keeps it up. He couldn't make a profit at a Carboot Sale. |