Do the shorter hitters need it to be soft or to dry out for them to have hope?

I'm hearing it both ways, for long hitters wets better as they wont lose the fairway as often but then next it's shorter guys want it wet so there long irons will still stop.
must admit I've been looking for "a way in" for others to have a chance for 2 days now, but keep getting roadblocked by that wee irish rapscallion

Please forgive me. I'm trying my hardest to think of every reason under the sun why Rory might not win it!

Have you considered the fact that he might get toothache or something???

I think Vegas is saying Timmy can stop his rescue club approach on the green as Rory pulls his wedge.

Try to make a book around it now.Three reds at the moment,Serg,Rory and Jimbo.The average price layed on Rory is not great but done ok on others.Need Tiger to withdraw ,was out last week when he walked off and got caught.
All about Rory for a lot of us I imagine,used to say that about that Tiger bloke.

think Justin Rose and Mickleson will challenge this week may not be so much of a birdy fest, which will suit Rose,Mickleson seems to be finding his distance again hopefully go well.

Well - just scrapped my book - everything and everybody i've mentioned so far is  null and void, had chopped and changed so much my book was becoming silly.
actually cost me £25 to get out, which is very poor and silly of me but am starting again with a new strategy which i will reveal shortly

Have you done the golf all 13 years on here Vegas ?

no frames - am actually a complete newbie as far as golf's concerned, only developed a love for the game and started playing 3 years ago, even then did not gamble on it really till 18 months ago - maybe that explains why i am so bad at it!!

i've mentioned before on here, nature of things now is i have to be super strict and disciplined on the horses day in day out - so golf is kinda my release when i mad punt go a little crazy

Kaymer @ 65???

Injured?

rhino -what sorta stakes do u play to work that sort of book? i'm struggling to wrap my head around how that is even possible!!! ( i am in no way questioning your integrity mate, u been doing this long b4 i turned up) assume your a backer first? how the fook have u predicted players to shorten? nion the fields drifted in the last fortnight!!

seriously, some pointers would be massive, i'm with sheppy, everything i touch drifts like a barge!!

Super Hans, Kaymer was rubbish at Bridgestone, but I don't know how much weight should be put on the very last tournament, and how much weight should be put on the whole year

Thanks Sam. 65 good for me.

I predict ski wizz will have had a good bet on the golfer going clear after round 2 or 3 and decent green on nearest challenges and small green everyone else.

Seems to be the case every week no matter what golfers are in contention.

doesnt seem a great plan vegas, but if rory plays poorly it might work

At last Monty has made it to 1000! I won't be backing him but he's been in the late 900s for quite some time.

But enough about his age!

Tiger has arrived at the course.Looking for a motability scooter as we speak

I've written more than enough today and I appologize if I'm driving anyone mad!

BUT I've got an addictive personality and sometimes I can't stop!

Anyway, we talk about trading. Back high, lay low etc.

Well phew! I feel annoyed that I'm missed the boat with Ben Martin. 600s to 300s in 2 days. That is some trade!

If I'd backed him @ 600 he'd be 900 now!

Good luck everybody...

PS... I hope your hunch is right Bruce!

is it me, or has there been quite alot of movement on the 200+ runners over the last 2-3 hours? , seems a few from memory have actually shortened quite markedly!!

Finally settled on my team, got involved way too late in the market for one reason or another (just back to betfair after a lengthy absence) and trading just wasn't a viable option. Hence forth I have had to simply back my selections. Below is what I'm left with:

Stenson +1,193.44

Bubba +1,193.44 (Based off the fact I think distance off the tee is going to be crucial, bolstered with the way he played another of the Nicklaus designed courses namely Muirfield village).

Matsuyama +1,915.44 (Like Bubba he isn't exactly short off the tee, also like the fact he ranks 6th in approaches from 200 yards and 1st from 150-175 yards which could be crucial considering the length of this course. Won the Memorial tournament, not to mention a tied 12th last week in Akron).

Westwood +737.44

Reed +793.68 (Purely off the fact he has had great year, albeit he had went cold before he's good performance last week, distance won't a problem either).

J.B.Holmes +775.44 (Hits it an awfully long way and being a local thought it was worth a small stake).

Delaet +727.94 (Missed last week which isn't exactly ideal preparation for this, but at 190 he was impossible to bypass considering he ranks 15th in driving distance, coupled with 3rd in greens in regulation. If only he could get the short stick going).

Karlsson +1,172.06

Blixt +748.65

Jacobson +2,200.44

Stallings +2,057.94 (Ticked the box of having won earlier this year and averages 300+ yards per drive - hopeful at best).

Field -183.75

Finally all the other selections have a theme/trend going in that they all hail from Nordic countries and with the obvious link to the name Valhalla "Hall of the slain", well call it silly to base selections off of that but it just felt appropriate. Not to mention Stenson is pure quality when he is on form, Karlsson has played really well as of late and Blixt played well in this corresponding event last year. Kind of feel I should have included Bjorn who went well at this venue in 2000 and Olesen who played well at Muirfield this year to complete the line - up of viking raiders

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100 points	price	50 points	price	25 points	price	10 points	price
j.luiten	580	davis love III	1000	p casey	190	p reed	85
g coetzee	630	D HEARN	1000	b horshall	210	r moore	85
p larrazabal	1000	G.F.Castano	930	r karlson	160	j day	100
ross fisher	1000	c wood	980	b todd	180	j walker	70
t jaidee	430	e compton	1000	g delaet	170	m kaymer	60
j donaldson	340	c stroud	920	i poulter	260	b snedeker	80
s gallagher	350	e molinari	650	s stricker	210	m leishman	55
p harrington	920	s brown	1000	t bjorn	150	j furyk	44
m jimenez	550	k chappell	480	h english	180	c schartzel	36
b weisberger	1000	g mcneil	860	f molinari	180	b watson	38
m warren	1000	a lahari	1000	n watney	250	m kucher	40
m illonen	1000	t fleetwood	1000	l ousthuizen	180	.	.
.	.	k perry	780	b de jonge	470	.	.
.	.	r knox	610	j senden	340	.	.
.	.	d willet	840	j blixt	440	.	.
.	.	b weekly	700	k na	160	.	.
.	.	p perez	1000	c kirk	180	.	.
.	.	r palmer	440	z johnson	110	.	.
.	.	t clark	420	a cabrera	120	.	.
.	.	c howell	260	l donald	150	.	.
.	.	b koepka	360	v duibison	130	.	.
.	.	j donaldson	340	jb holmes	120	.	.
.	.	s lowry	250	w simpson	130	.	.
.	.	g olgilvy	250	j dufner	140	.	.

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