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By:
Handles
When: 10 Jun 13 21:09
3 key stats that seem to be important round here are: accuracy, wedge play (i've used proximity to pin from 75-125) and par 4 performance. There's only 1 guy in the field who  ranks in the top 10 for all 3. Snedeker. Puts well, has a good recent u.s open record and has contended in recent majors. I know he missed the cut last week but 36/38 seems nice enough. Can't see him not contending.
By:
LernhardBanger
When: 10 Jun 13 21:13
Karlberg no form - > 440 for Nordea Masters.
Karlberg after a top 5 -> 40 for Lyoness in Austria
Karlberg after MC - > 1000 for US Open

Grinder, should trade lower, might not win though =)
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 10 Jun 13 21:34
Starting with a team of 11 and fingers crossed one or two will be in realistic touch after the cut.

Day 50
Stenson 85
Haas 95
Horschel 120
Stallings 120
Streelman 150
Palmer 180
Leishman 210
Piercy 280
Karlsson 300
Guthrie 530
By:
sundogmonkey
When: 10 Jun 13 21:47
I'm expecting a massive week from Ryan Moore. Loves the test of a classic track with accuracy right up is his street. Lead the field in driving accuracy last time out at Memorial. Also putts best on these greens. Backed him a couple of weeks back at 150s for this & again today @ 125s for top 6.

Also expecting a good week from Henryk Stenson. He's been threatening something special for a while. He's up at the top of both Driving accuracy & GIR on PGA tour this season. Throw in that he can actually leave the driver in the bag this week, which has let him down in past years at key times & focus on his 3 wood, along with the fact that he's a top putter & scrambler you can make a great case for him.

Next a hunch for F Molinari. He should take some inspiration from his brother winning US Amateur @ Merion & again his tee to green accuracy should suit.

Finally at this stage looking to top Muppet's 400s on Van Zyl I've thrown a few quid at Justin Hicks at 500s earlier in the day e/w [as it seems have a few other people as his his price has been cut a cross the board]. I'm guessing they've seen what I have, which is that he's another fairways and greens merchant who has been consistent most of this year, has found some form again over the past week, first in US Open qualifying & then at St Jude and who, if memory serves me correctly lead the US Open after a couple of rounds a few years back.

Waiting to see if a couple more I like get pushed out at all and then may well add them.

Good luck all.
By:
Goalhanger
When: 10 Jun 13 23:02
Olesen
Bae
Henley
Harrington
Zach Johnson
Peter Hanson.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 10 Jun 13 23:20
Wittenburg@900/1(played ok,the masters)
Brandon grace@310(was hot last year,hope he finds it)
m laird@230(doing ok pga tour)
f molinari@120/1(I feel course will suit his style of play)

I hav a reserve bet on Sunday if these players are out of contention
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 10 Jun 13 23:25
Traded
Lee Westwood
Justin Rose
Bubba Watson
David Lingmerth
Scott Stallings
Paul Lawrie

Backed
Michael Thompson
Darren Clarke
Morgan Hoffmann

Not much movement on the ones that i'm waiting to be matched.
By:
brain dead jockeys
When: 11 Jun 13 00:30
the real issue is simple. tiger is going to win a major soon and 6/1 this time looks good. i want to be on when it happens.
By:
no moves
When: 11 Jun 13 00:43
I agree brain dead jockeys.

Some majors ten years ago he was starting at around 2/1 and he is in great form.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 11 Jun 13 01:07
6/1 tiger,very skinny price

better price in-play
By:
Deplasterer
When: 11 Jun 13 01:13
The mummet moans, shhhhh,  I want Pod to myself, ExcitedExcitedExcited
By:
Senyatta
When: 11 Jun 13 03:52
gone for just the one.snedeker.35/1 on here not bad at all.hopefully will stay within 4 shots come sunday keep me interested.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 11 Jun 13 04:10
thurs  weather looks horrid---possibly no playSad
By:
therhino
When: 11 Jun 13 07:50
http://www.pgatour.com/tourreport/2013/010/10/tough-rough-last-defense-for-soft-merion.html

Ernie Els agrees with Merson. Doesn't look like a traditional war of attrition, not sure what that does to peoples thoughts on the winner but definitely brings Rory into the mix. A little upset, I love the war of attrition.
By:
Geesyerdosh
When: 11 Jun 13 09:06
Small bets for me

Haas 95 - Solid all year can go close
Stallings 120 - Anyone hotter right now? 4/4/2 on 3 tough courses
Stenson 85 - Just needs the putter to work and can be right in the mix
Thompson 150 - tmm makes a convincing case
By:
Mersontheperson
When: 11 Jun 13 09:22
Soft greens soft fairways. This helps guys who hit big. Narrow fairways and tough rough flavors accurate golfers, so what we have is just a pretty neutral set of affairs.

I think people put far too much emphasis on course types, lefties or people who can fade or draw the ball. Obviously a tight links course on a windy Scottish day is going to favour a Paul Lawrie a little more than a Casey Wittenburg, but when it comes to Bubba, Tiger, Rory or Luke, whoever brings their A game can win.

If you don't like to go for rank outsiders, then I think there is a good mix of guys between 3 & 400-1 that offer great value on such an equalising course (see below) Jerry Kelly is at over 800-1, a complete outsider I know, but played well at The Heritage, and I think he has the intelligence, demeanor and experience to handle a US Open on a compact course.

I am also backing some early tee time players and late tee time players, a couple at each end, as in very changeable conditions a big advantage may just swing one way or the other.

Mid range guys....
George Coetzee
D.A. Points
Scott Piercy
Nicolas Colsaerts
Robert Karlsson
Branden Grace
Lucas Glover
Jordan Spieth
David Toms
Sang-Moon Bae
Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano
John Huh
Carl Pettersson
Robert Garrigus
John Senden
Charley Hoffman
By:
Super Hans
When: 11 Jun 13 10:01
21 pt arb in the place market with B WIN if you can get on.

Lingmerth 60 on here 80/1 with them.
By:
dlarssonf
When: 11 Jun 13 10:07
Just hope the weather doesn't bring half the field out of contention like it did a few years ago in BethpageSad
By:
Deplasterer
When: 11 Jun 13 10:26
The more I look at the stats, the more Justin Rose is beckoning me for more of my cash. Will the putter work for him this week, is the big concern for me still.Confused
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 11 Jun 13 10:29
Just a question............why are the back 9 groups starting on the 11th tee and not the 10th tee?
By:
callitasucit
When: 11 Jun 13 10:32
Couldn't bring myself to put money on that **** DP. No way I could cheer for him, even if it was for profit.
By:
dlarssonf
When: 11 Jun 13 10:34
I read somewhere Ski it s because the 10th tee is too far from the clubhouse
By:
Deplasterer
When: 11 Jun 13 10:42
Rose, callit? Has he let you down in the past badly. Find him ok myself, but not a serial winner but does have a profile to win oone of these in my book.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 11 Jun 13 10:45
I remember they had prince Andrew at the open one year,he said everyone should just try playing 13 holes

SadSilly
By:
xmoneyx
When: 11 Jun 13 10:47
poulter,rose,Garcia

bookies hav extra extensions on there houses from those bets
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 11 Jun 13 10:48

Jun 11, 2013 -- 10:34AM, dlarssonf wrote:


I read somewhere Ski it s because the 10th tee is too far from the clubhouse


Really....that's poor logic.

It does look to me that the back 9 would play quicker than the front 9.....hence 8 holes in the back nine then i'm sure there will be a backlog......many groups waiting around doing nothing.

They do have buggies to ferry golfers to the 10th tee? or walk there?

By:
callitasucit
When: 11 Jun 13 10:49
No, I just cant stand the smug bol*ix!! Would prob miss a clinching putt from 3 feet anyway.
By:
Mersontheperson
When: 11 Jun 13 10:55
Ski-wiz, I think they might be using holes from the neighboring course, they are certainly using that for the practice range.

On such a small (comparatively) course, they are making loads of wacky choices on where things are.  Someone called it a 'boutique' open, I kinda like that.
By:
Ski-Wiz
When: 11 Jun 13 11:04
Thought they would use the west course if the holes are waterlogged.....however with modern technologies they have no excuses to clear the water.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 11 Jun 13 11:05
a pick &mix open
By:
xmoneyx
When: 11 Jun 13 11:09
parts of the course look like the Somme





https://mobile.twitter.com/GARSIDEK/status/344183611949449217/photos
By:
Mersontheperson
When: 11 Jun 13 11:10
This is what i have matched so far:
Douglas LaBelle    1000
Bio Kim    1000
Jose Maria Olazabal    1000
D.A. Points    280
Yoshinobu Tsukada    1000
   
Robert Garrigus    500
Morten Orum Madsen    1000
Brian Stuard    1000
Jerry Kelly    810
Russell Knox    1000
Yui Ueda    1000
Darren Clarke    1000
Hiroyuki Fujita    1000
Paul Lawrie    500
Sang-Moon Bae    292.5
Kyle Stanley    269.9
Matt Bettencourt    1000
Peter Hanson    200
Rikard Karlberg    1000
Edward Loar    1000
Casey Wittenberg    1000
Phil Mickelson    29.54
Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano    388.3
Billy Horschel    120
Scott Langley    1000
Jung-Gon Hwang    1000
Hideki Matsuyama    630
By:
Mersontheperson
When: 11 Jun 13 11:11
Ignore Garrigus, some muppet went and matched 1p of that. I don't know how that happens but it seems to happen a lot.
By:
jackdebden
When: 11 Jun 13 11:56
Can't believe nobody had mentioned early won the u.s open before . 9th last year won the open and 13th at the masters. Won both the memorial and Buick classic as did david graham both of them north east America as is this us open he won his 1st us open in Pennsylvania and was 6th at the bmw pga 130s is a steal
By:
jackdebden
When: 11 Jun 13 11:57
I meant to say ernie haha predictive text
By:
Mersontheperson
When: 11 Jun 13 12:16
I think his odds are longer because he has been trying to get away from his belly putter.

Backing bad putters may sound stupid, but I have noticed that it can be an excellent way of making money
By:
DONEMYLOT
When: 11 Jun 13 13:48
Super Hans
10 Jun 13 17:38   

So what we need are stats on accuracy and distance with low irons.

Any suggestions?


PGA Tour has all those stats

http://www.pgatour.com/content/pgatour/stats/categories.RAPP_INQ.html

I cant find them on tt
By:
HeinzGuderian
When: 11 Jun 13 14:09
My forward divisions look something like this:

Mr Tiger £100 @ 6/1.
Wee Rory £100 @ 26.
L.Donald £36 @ 37.8
Steve Stricker £40 @ 75.
H.Mahan £26 @ 85.
Z.Johnson £37 @ 105.
S.Stallings £10 @ 120.
I.Poulter £10 @ 110.
R. Moore £12 @ 175.
K.Stanley £5 @ 150.
K.Streelman £20 @ 200.
S.Piercy £6 @ 300.
C.Hoffman £5 @ 300.
J.Spieth £6 @ 300.
John Huh £7 @ 290.
L.Glover £4 @ 330.
Gonzo £15 @ 350.
S.M.Bae £2 @ 410.
John Senden £11 @ 400.
Jaco Van Zyl £2 @ 830. (not that left field).
L.Guthrie £2 @ 520.
T.Jaidee £2 @ 530.
M.Hoffman £13 @ 600.
S.Stefani £11 @ 680.
D.Howell £7 @ 900.
J.M.Olazabal £2 @ 1000.
Doug LaBelle £6 @ 1000.
M.Wiebring £2 @ 1000, and
D.Clarke £2 @ 1000.

Liability -£611.05.

I am looking forward to it immensely. Cool
By:
Mersontheperson
When: 11 Jun 13 14:22
How does that compare to just backing your picks except tiger in the W/O Woods market Heinz?
By:
Mersontheperson
When: 11 Jun 13 14:24
Actually no need to reply, I just looked  it up, it is much better value doing it the way you are.  Nice work.
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