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I've said my piece, clearly most or all who have posted since disagree with me. That's fair enough, everyone is entitled to their views. For what it's worth I think it would do some posters on here good to have a think about what they they actually get out of revelling in this guy's misery.
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Ps...my comments above don't relate to everyone on here. There are some who seem to particularly savour his suffering and delight in going into detail about it. No names mentioned, it's all down in black and white and available to view.
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david you soppy fecker, get some balls man. We all tried helping him time and time again and he just threw it back in our faces and carried on the way he is so he deserves it. he is a tool. a complete tool and i want to see him fail now only to save him from a much bigger disaster in the future, because that future disaster WILL come.
Heaven forbid if he actually got given a few k by someone to use, it would end in even more tears and he is wasting his life by continuing to have grand delusions of being a full time successful gambler. |
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David he insists on updating his blog - for God knows what reason.
Why shouldn't we comment on it? If you look at the comments here a lot of them have been words of wisdom. He ignored all advice he got so copying his publicly viewable comments and then adding our own is perfectly acceptable. |
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As mentioned earlier, bullying can usually be very constructive for the victim.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2019312/Bullied-schoolgirl-Ellie-Burton-laugh-winning-modelling-contract.html A schoolgirl who took up modelling after she was bullied about her appearance has landed a modelling contract. Ellie Burton, 14, was persuaded to take up modelling by her mother after a group of cruel school bullies left her with low self-esteem. The teenager signed up with a local modelling agency and was stunned when she was invited to take part in a casting for Marks & Spencer. Hopefully this thread will help odwyer sort out his life and one day he will be back to thank us all. |
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Rocket, I broadly agree with the way you've expressed it above in your post above and agree there have been a lot of words of wisdom.
Quant.. "bullying can usually be very constructive for the victim". If you swap 'could potentially' for 'can usually' I'd agree with you that there could be some truth in that but as the sentence stands I think it's frankly ludicrous. I think the family of the 14 year old student of mine, in the days when I was a teacher, who committed suicide as a direct result of bullying, would beg to differ with you, as would numerous people I've worked with and met over the years who suffered greatly from having been bullied. |
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dizzy
Do you really believe that O'Dwyer is really being bullied in the manner of the 14 year old student case you were unfortunately involved in ?. I think that comparison is quite frankly ludicrous. Quant Can we hopefully expect now to see O'Dwyer modelling " gambling" attire for M & S ? |
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Btw Dizzy I know your heart is in the right place on this matter in general, but on an open gambling forum/blog ?
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Frog...in answer to your first question...No. I didn't make a comparison between O'Dwyer and my student who killed herself. I agree there's no comparison. I only mentioned her story as a direct response to Quant's assertion that 'bullying can usually be very constructive for the victim'.
Perhaps my comments have come over a bit too strong (maybe my fault?), I didn't intend to say this thread is a terrible crime, I just felt it contained elements of pack behaviour, all picking on the one oddball, and I thought some posters on here could do with looking at their motivations. |
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Personally I care never to look at my motivations for posting anything anywhere.
Don't think I would like what I would see. |
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David you will be more at home on the chit chat forum.Frog you belong back on the pc threads doing your betfair pr.
This guy went through a lucky patch a while back and was calling every one mugs and idiots till his chickens came home to roost.You reap what you sow. |
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So John's posted his latest update and he's lost £44 in another week. Typically the financial reality comes at the end of the usual waffle about bank size and how great things were in the past, despite acknowledging that his overall profit on Betfair since he joined (2007 I believe) is a mere £14k - a nice bit of extra cash on top of a job, but hardly sufficient if it's his sole source of income.
I see too that 'dj' has today suggested that 33 blog readers give John £30 to give him a £1k bank. Such suggestions seem to pop up on every thread John starts, and I strongly suspect the likes of 'dj' are just John's creations to drum up support - because for every 'dj' there must be 1000 people who'd be saying "FFS give up on betting as a career and salvage your life whilst you still can". If John is real one of the tv channels really should do a documentary on him  |
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I agree, dd. this thread has taken on characteristics of bullying, imo.
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Well, my conscience is entirely clear - I'm only speaking plain common sense. It's not meant in a nasty way, and if the truth hurts well so be it, to me anyone who encourages John to continue betting are the ones who are doing him long-term damage. Ultimately it's up to him whether he listens or not.
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you do however seem to devote a fair deal of time to keeping this thread alive.
it's not a question of the truth hurting, it's the repetition and the tone that are the issue. |
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i think the repetition of his claims of only needing 1k and how much he won last year should be the issue. He keeps saying all he needs is 1k and he can win big and everything will be fine but he has has 1k twice this year already and then lost it.
He needs help. |
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Probably a good job this thread isn't on the football forum as it would be ttt all the time. I'll leave it there anyway, wonder if John might finally do the same ?!.
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I doubt it. he has a serious addictive problem, and the £1000 think is his central sustaining delusion.
it's going to take something to happen for him to break out of that. |
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Viva you can't tell us we are bullying him and straight after post a comment which is pretty much the same as most of the others on the thread.
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well, no. I think what I've written's true, and I've said it before. the difference is, it gives me no pleasure, and I'm not going out of my way to offer a gleeful running commentary on what he's doing or belittle him.
it is the message he needs to hear, imo - but I don't think that's what a lot of this thread has been about. |
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posted saying how he was going to try and look for a job as that was his last resort to get the £1000 he so desperately needs (and has already had twice this year) to make his big winnings and live the lifestyle again.
Then all of a sudden he has been deleting his updates again.  |
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These are from the comments section on his blog.
John O'Dwyer said... One of the downsides of doing this, dj, is I have no Paypal account. I think the only credible way I can go about raising the money I need is to get a job, then once I have the funds I need, pursue what I'm confident of happening. Although I am too late now tbh, and in way way too deep debt-wise, but that's my problem. 2 August 2011 13:17 John O'Dwyer said... I only needed the stability of around 1k as well! I might have got there through a bit of luck, but it wasn't to be. Trying to gamble my way there hasn't worked. 2 August 2011 13:39 Maybe he is starting to see the light. |
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Maybe his blog is actually underwritten by gamecare, as a salutory lesson to all wannabe professional gamblers ?.
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If he was starting to see the light, his blog would say "I need to get a job", and no more talk about £1k etc.
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still has no edge....still losing money.
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Looks like the end for John.
Wednesday, 24 August 2011 30 Day Update 26th July - August 24th 2011: Australian wallet: Total P&L: -£215.53 Posted by John O'Dwyer at 11:31 PM 7 comments Links to this post Friday, 2 September 2011 Having A Break A very short update, but I'm going to give things a rest for a few months until I have the funds I need to get going again - like I had last year. Thanks for reading, and good luck. Posted by John O'Dwyer at 12:26 PM 0 comments Links to this post  |
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Odwyer: I'm still 15k up since I started Betfair in 2007. I've just managed money poorly,
Lori: That'll happen if you earn under minimum wage in your job. That's true Lori, but considering he was losing on here first year , then maybe won a bit in mid 2008 (i recall screenshots proofing some big bets he had around Summer that year, they then stopped so doubtless he blew that bank) then continued losing til early 2010, and has been losing last 12 months too... he must have made a sum that almost anyone would be delighted with in 7 months or so, over £20,000 profit. If you can make 20k profit in 6 months or so you will feel like you are destined for this .And thats how he sees things, rather than he has made 15k in 4 years+ As someone said a few pages back he sees the succesful period as the norm and the losing spells as exceptions caused by not having a big enough bank. Most likely the great run he had was due to massively overstaking during a lucky spell. To go by the stuff he posts he has been operating in the same way re bet selection all the time he has used Betfair. |
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Latest for this month
Total P&L: +£1,216.11  |
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Wednesday, 18 January 2012
January Update I've rarely been on Betfair in January due to being short of funds to get going again. My last update at around xmas time showed a profit over a 3 month period, but bad money-management meant I left myself where I am now. So once again, I've found myself in a difficult position of having a small bank, and that's the reason why I stopped. It's been like this for too long now; I'd say the best part of a year, which is far too long for my liking. I've not had over £2,000 in my Betfair account since around November 2010, and has played a big part in why I've not made this pay like I did that year, and also backs up why I feel that having a big bank makes things a lot more easier. That's why confidence in profiting long term is still there - because I've not had the funds to get going like I did in 2010 and once I do start using a bank size of around 3-4k again, things should start looking up. In all honestly, 2011 was unacceptable and a lot of 'umming and arring' combined with playing with a small starting bank meant I could never get going like I had hoped. The markets are still the same as are the opportunities, so nothing has changed in that regard. Despite all this, things are far from ideal at the moment. As I said, I've barely used Betfair this year and when I have, it's been with a small bank - which is making it a lot more difficult. All I am seeing is opportunities pass, so at the moment, I need to put this right somehow. |
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He regularly puts up posts and removes them a day or two later, too.
Posted that he'd finally seen he needed to move on or something along those lines but then removed it. |
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Tuesday, 13 March 2012
March Update On Friday I found £2.43 in one of my Betfair accounts that I've not used for over a year. It was in one of the Australian wallets although I'm not sure how it got there. Has apparently turned this £2.43 in to £1,900 http://odwyer1980.blogspot.co.uk/ |
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that 2.43 will have been the aussie wallet cross matching rebate
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GO ON O'DWYER SON (in before he s-punks it all)
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He's now won almost £4K from that £2.43 he found in his account less than 8 weeks ago.
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amazing scenes
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Can we find out what he's betting on? I could do with an extra 4k.
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He's won another £3.5k this week, now won £7.5k from £2.43
It would be amazing if he could turn £2 into £100k or so in a year. |
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Nice work
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