main thing for me is to learn sth. about horses and I think I'm doing well looking at your selections and finding criteria why to lay that horses. Last race was horrible though.

But for me speaking I will soon concentrate on laying 3 or 4 horses per day which should bring me 0.66-0.85% per day if no loser. Maybe start with another bank soon but as said have to learn first and you're doing great work (you can blame me for jinxing if you bank gone bust in 1 week )

Escapee, I am sure that will be something to do with it.  I will do those calculations after racing tonight and post on here.  So we can "crunch some numbers"!

Toma, stick with your long term game, and like Del boy said,"this time next year Rodney....". All the very best of luck to you.

cheers Belarussianborderbiatch I am gonna stick with it.

I am just worried that I re-write Fools and Horses and the end of that quote is "...we will be skint"!

Jonny, if I get the next 10 beat I will be doing somersaults, and I will be ahead on the day.  I have now matched 5 more for tonight.

I will try and post them here (dunno if it will work on this forum):-

Sport Selection Meeting Time Lay Odds Stake
Racing Russian George Ripon 19:30 7.2 £5.90
Racing Quito Du Tresor Aint 19:40 6.4 £5.90
Racing Danderek Ham 19:50 4.3 £5.90
Racing Jackday Ripon 20:30 4 £5.90
Racing Guest Connections Ham 20:50 6 £5.90

Ouch Jonny, you must be playing with a BIG bank!  Are you adopting Maria criteria for your stakes?

Get yourself down the Nags Head for a Pian Colada to drown your sorrows!

thats the last two races where we have had horses trade at 1.02 only to be beaten by Richard Hughes on my selection.

Thats what I would call unlucky!

need the next 13 to get beat to break even

Escapee, how did you do that with the HTML table.  On my screen is says "Forum does not support HTML formatting."

[smiley:crazy]

i make that 13 more to go

Horse Racing / Chest 7th May : 5f Hcap       07-May-10 15:15       07-May-10 15:21      43.28
Horse Racing / Ling 7th May : 7f Hcap     07-May-10 15:05     07-May-10 15:13     -107.96
Horse Racing / Ling 7th May : 5f Mdn Stks     07-May-10 14:05     07-May-10 14:08     -246.50
Horse Racing / Nott 7th May : 5f Mdn Stks     07-May-10 13:55     07-May-10 13:59     -99.86
Horse Racing / Chest 7th May : 7f Hcap     07-May-10 13:45     07-May-10 13:55     43.27
Horse Racing / Ling 7th May : 7f Mdn Stks     07-May-10 13:35     07-May-10 13:40     25.96
Horse Racing / Nott 7th May : 6f Mdn Stks     07-May-10 13:25     07-May-10 13:32     17.31

in two races another horse went 1.02...

get the 13 beat and i am even for the day approx....

Escapee, I have shown below the losing selections from April!

Selections	Meet	Time	Fractional	Decimal	Lay Odds
Fremen	Muss	14:20	2/1	3	3.8
Star Galaxy	Plump	15:00	15/8 F	2.87	2.62
She's In The Money	Muss	16:20	7/4 F	2.75	3.05
Esuvia	Muss	17:20	9/4	3.25	3.41
Waterloo Dock	Ling	15:00	9/2	5.5	7.2
Trip the Light	Catt	15:10	12/1	13	10.5
Junior	Taunt	14:25	5/2	3.5	3.85
Bob's Dream	Kelso	14:50	11/4 F	3.75	5.3
The Strawberry One	Mrkt	17:00	7/2 F	4.5	7.63
Cape to Rio	Folk	14:00	8/1	9	9.2
Karky Schultz	Folk	17:00	100/30 JF	4.33	4.9
Maid in Heaven	Pont	16:50	4/1	5	7.2
Mappin Time	Bev	13:30	7/4 F	2.75	3.7
Zaplamation	Bev	15:45	3/1 F	4	4
Captain Chris	Chelt	14:10	2/1	3	2.64
Monterosso	Ripon	15:45	11/2	6.5	5.3
Wigmore Hall	Newm	17:20	10/1	11	7.6
French Opera	Ayr	14:15	7/4 F	2.75	2.72
**** Turpin	Newb	15:40	8/1	9	9.8
Noble Request	Ayr	16:30	5/1	6	7.27
Ray Mond	Plump	14:50	11/8 F	2.37	2.23
High Jack	Kemp	17:25	8/1	9	10.5
Absa Lutte	Folk	15:30	8/1	9	7.42
The Hague	Brig	19:10	11/2	6.5	4.98
Sivota	Punch	15:40	7/2 F	4.5	4.4
Taborcillo	Catt	16:50	8/1	9	8.4
Rigour Back Bob	Punch	16:55	6/1	7	6.6
Flouncing	Sthl	17:25	2/1 F	3	3.15
Just Five	Sthl	19:25	5/2 JF	3.5	4.6
Serious Choice	Newt	17:25	4/1	5	4.7
Tri Nations	Bang	17:35	5/4 F	2.25	2.08
Quo Video	Chep	17:45	7/2	4.5	5.5
Bebopalula	Wind	17:40	5/6 F	1.83	2.3
Getcarter	Wind	18:40	3/1 F	4	7
Scarcity	Yarm	15:10	6/4 F	2.5	3.9
Antigua Sunrise	Pont	16:05	6/1	7	11
Primaeval	Kemp	21:10	8/1	9	9.4
Park's Prodigy	Muss	16:35	3/1	4	4.5

I make that :
Average SP odds = 4.2
Average Lay odds = 5.6

12 to go


Greyhound Racing: £4.29 | Horse Racing: -£298.54 | Tote: |  Total P&L:  -£294.25

Horse Racing     Showing 1 - 8 of 8 markets
Market     Start time     Settled date     Profit/loss (£)
Horse Racing / Ling 7th May : 5f Hcap     07-May-10 15:45     07-May-10 15:49     25.96
Horse Racing / Chest 7th May : 5f Hcap     07-May-10 15:15     07-May-10 15:21     43.28
Horse Racing / Ling 7th May : 7f Hcap     07-May-10 15:05     07-May-10 15:13     -107.96
Horse Racing / Ling 7th May : 5f Mdn Stks     07-May-10 14:05     07-May-10 14:08     -246.50
Horse Racing / Nott 7th May : 5f Mdn Stks     07-May-10 13:55     07-May-10 13:59     -99.86
Horse Racing / Chest 7th May : 7f Hcap     07-May-10 13:45     07-May-10 13:55     43.27
Horse Racing / Ling 7th May : 7f Mdn Stks     07-May-10 13:35     07-May-10 13:40     25.96
Horse Racing / Nott 7th May : 6f Mdn Stks     07-May-10 13:25     07-May-10 13:32     17.31

can still pull off a profit

Bourne traded at 42, and Cavalier at 1.03. It's a definate day for The Nags Head!

Unbelievable, only donkeys running today or what? [>o]

I make that 38 losers at average odds of 5.64
Extrapolating from a strike rate of 88% = 316/38 winners/losers

for a £1 level backers stake

Losers	38 x 4.64 =	-£176.32
Winners	316 * 0.95 =	+£300.20
Net Profit		+£123.88
Commission	316 * 0.05 =	£15.80
ROI per £1 bet	123.88 / 354  =	35p

35 pence per £ seems very good ( maybe too good ) I suspect there may be troubled times ahead.

But you could be onto something and at least you have a positive buffer to help weather any variance.

Toma, if it was easy as pie to lay away & make money then the world wouldn't be working, we would all just be laying away on BF. Keep your head up and stick to your plan. It worked for Maria, why can't it work for you??!

Belarussian, this season's Bundesliga 2 was quite strange and a real money burner for me as I always did well on that league as my team's in and I found it easy to research news, stats, teams, read behind the lines etc. but what has happened this year in world football (I'd include some other leagues too concerning strange results) just was unreal. Just look at PL and Arsenal's latest results, or Spain, or Italy, or France, or or or...

I always was fascinated about horse racing since I started on BF, never had a clue about it and always prevented myself from getting deeper into the topic.

2 weeks ago I found this thread and the blog, followed it daily without money, watched the selections and tried to find the laying criteria Toma was looking at to learn because I've seen him doing pretty well, so I decided to follow and if 100,- € are lost I will stop for real money, but follow anyway. As said there's a lot to learn and let's hope that the result of my learning is not: how to not lay horses!

Unlucky for me that I started following with real money on wednesday, now have two big losing days but I'm sure Toma keep's it up... after all it's gambling.

Hi Belarussianborderbiatch, thanks for that I will keep going until I either make a nice bit of dosh or do my original £500 in!

xGURKx, I am sorry to hear you just started doing it when I hit this bad spell...I wish you had found this thred in April when I started.  Sorry mate!