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You know, I had never heard of it when I started betting and a lot of my "systems" were based on that kind of betting .... the problem most people have with it is that they do the wrong kind of bets on it. I done hundreds and I mean hindreds of experiments with it and a lot of them do work. Yeah you do need a big bankroll but if you do lots and lots of paper experiments before using real money there are actually ways it pays ..... I would say most wil ldisagree with me, but I have tried and tested many of them in my own ways and have had a good bit of success with it. I won't give all my secrets away but here are a few examples of what I done.
1. I used to just stand and watch roulette table for ages and memorise sequenses, in all the times I watched I never hit a sequence of 12 red or black in the times I was doing this, so when a sequence hits 10 then you go in ... Casino's don't like doubling up so I would pretty much say avoid a roulette table, but this was just an example. The other example is to just keep doing the same bet once for every visit you pay to the casino.
2. Football Over/Under 2.5 goals .... this one took me months to do experiments on and hundreds of paperwork but I did make it pay, even ran a thread on Soccer forum for a while doing it ... Go and check out the sequences of all the teams in the leagues and write down all the sequences to every team in every league you want to do it on. I done it on all the english, scottish, german and spanish. Write back for their last 10 matches, and once you have a sequence of around 7 or 8 in a row thats when you go in with the money as they are due to hit the opposite .... only a few teams in the time I researched reached around 12 in a row but that would only be 4 chases so you would be fine if going in on match 9. Also depends on the fixtures as well, I was avoiding the likely scorelines ie, top club v bottom club, so as well as the sequence you have to sometimes avoid certain fixtures. Good fun, but lot of work keeping on track of all results.
3. Snooker ... very few players go the whole season without a win at decent odds, there are only 6 or 7 events throughout the season ands very rarely does a player lose all of them .... so this is where you use martingale to get those winning bets, and even if you do hit a loser a lot of your other bets will counteract those losses, tried and tested .... can go with 1st frames in matches every event, high breaks, handicaps .....
The worst martingale I ever done was chasing favs to win horses .... just absolutley pointless ! But again it was done on paper before money, so that was avoided ....
Anyone else ever tried any different methods? I love doing it but as you know, you need a good bankroll to do hundreds of bets at once ..... and money sitting there vif needed, oh and every account with the bookies and Betfair.
1. I used to just stand and watch roulette table for ages and memorise sequenses, in all the times I watched I never hit a sequence of 12 red or black in the times I was doing this, so when a sequence hits 10 then you go in ... Casino's don't like doubling up so I would pretty much say avoid a roulette table, but this was just an example. The other example is to just keep doing the same bet once for every visit you pay to the casino.
2. Football Over/Under 2.5 goals .... this one took me months to do experiments on and hundreds of paperwork but I did make it pay, even ran a thread on Soccer forum for a while doing it ... Go and check out the sequences of all the teams in the leagues and write down all the sequences to every team in every league you want to do it on. I done it on all the english, scottish, german and spanish. Write back for their last 10 matches, and once you have a sequence of around 7 or 8 in a row thats when you go in with the money as they are due to hit the opposite .... only a few teams in the time I researched reached around 12 in a row but that would only be 4 chases so you would be fine if going in on match 9. Also depends on the fixtures as well, I was avoiding the likely scorelines ie, top club v bottom club, so as well as the sequence you have to sometimes avoid certain fixtures. Good fun, but lot of work keeping on track of all results.
3. Snooker ... very few players go the whole season without a win at decent odds, there are only 6 or 7 events throughout the season ands very rarely does a player lose all of them .... so this is where you use martingale to get those winning bets, and even if you do hit a loser a lot of your other bets will counteract those losses, tried and tested .... can go with 1st frames in matches every event, high breaks, handicaps .....
The worst martingale I ever done was chasing favs to win horses .... just absolutley pointless ! But again it was done on paper before money, so that was avoided ....
Anyone else ever tried any different methods? I love doing it but as you know, you need a good bankroll to do hundreds of bets at once ..... and money sitting there vif needed, oh and every account with the bookies and Betfair.
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Never tried as everything i ever read about it said it was hopless disaster
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LAy 0-0 HT?
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it is a hopeless disaster
i cannot believe that anyone who considers the possibilities for more than 5 minutes can believe that martingale in roulette works - your statement: "I used to just stand and watch roulette table for ages and memorise sequenses, in all the times I watched I never hit a sequence of 12 red or black in the times I was doing this, so when a sequence hits 10 then you go in" is laughable and I sincerely hope that you wrote it in an attempt to wind people up. |
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I saved a mug friend of mine a lot of money by telling him to wait for the same section to come in five times in a row on roulette before betting at level stakes.
He was never going to quit gambling, that's about the best system I could come up with for him :| |
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just reading your post again Schalke I am afraid that you are going to get ridiculed again - please listen to those who do not insult you because you need to learn, if you continue to go down the route that you are going you are on almost a sure road to ruin.
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Look mate, don't have a go at me for writing what I experimentd, if you don't try something you will never know if it works or not, I tried loads of things from watching roulette tables to horses .... you need to experiment with things to see what happens. I said above avoid a roulette table didn't I ...... I didn't say it was a great thing to do did I, I never said go and do it tonight did I. Why are people so quick into jumping on someones back in an all out attack?
I would say to anyone to try things without money at first and do it for a good while to see what patterns, wins, losses you get then try it with money .... thats what I done |
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Now got mental image of schalke standing for hours watching roulette like a coiled spring ready to pounce
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Never been to casino is it true they dont like you doubling up? seems strange
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forget the roullette table but on the several occassions I watched it, a sequence never went past 12 ........ red/black odd/even ........ it was used as an example of what I looked at
What about the overs/unders one, thoughts on that? I started this thread to see what others have done with martingale ........ |
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I started this thread to see what others have done with martingale ........
I think we debunked it in maths in the first year of secondary school (age 11) That's what I have done with it. Also, although it's not hard to bet £2097152 when paper trading, try getting that bet on with BaldyFred |
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Lori, you are very quick in shooting things down aren't you .... as I said, I done very well doing a lot of things, was curious to what others have done with it.
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I'm actually very slow to shoot things down, there are dozens of threads on here that are almost certainly complete piffle. I leave them alone because of the words "almost certainly"
Luckily for me, you remove the word "almost" from the equation, which allows me to get involved in the mix. |
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You obviously have no grasp of basic maths Schalke......
Waiting for a sequence of 10 before going in just proves the point...... |
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The only people more stupid than the regulars at a roulette wheel are casino managers brendan.
I remember a huge huge whale in coventry being banned from the casino. They admitted he was losing, but as they were supposed to retain 18-24% of money that went down the slot (That's the number it worked out at that people lost in a night on average), his action was big enough to totally ruin their numbers. He was reinstated pretty quickly when the news worked its way up to whichever person in the chain was the first to have a brain. I've done analysis on dealers who swear blind they can hit a section of a wheel with a roulette spin as well as managers who swear blind that certain dealers are better at blackjack (a game where the dealer has no control over the actions) than others. They truly are morons. Which was a good thing for many years of my life. I used to bet on blackjack and the dealer actually said "Here comes the aces" on a daily basis when I did it, and it never once dawned on him that there might be a reason for it. |
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*So to answer your question, I'm sure there are some places where they don't like you doubling up.
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Nothing is a certainty in betting as you know, but with a lot of markets there is the law of averages and you very rarely get long sequences in some of them, especially overs/unders ...... you should have a go at it and see what you can do with it, it also happens to be very enjoyable, but it's bloody hard work and you have to decide whether the winnings are worth the time you are spending on it .....
I used to do things like backing against the top 4 in snooker (Hendry/O'Sull/Higgins/Williams) they were the four at the time and I used to back against them when they were in 1st or 2nd rounds .... I didn't quite use martingale but I kept backing against them till I hit a winner .... it's changed a lot though since then, the prices aren't quite what they used to be but it can still work, the top 4 constantly lose in 1st and 2nd rounds when heavy odds on !! |
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wehey23 20 Mar 10:51
You obviously have no grasp of basic maths Schalke...... Waiting for a sequence of 10 before going in just proves the point...... wow, another one ... yeah, lets jump in on thr roullette example, not the football or snooker one, lets go for the roullette one lol. Again I will say, it was an experiment, I didn't ever see a sequence go past 12 in the times I done it, so if it were done with money on those times then I would have made profit, simple .... but it is very different to sports as you have more knowledge in sports and predicting is a little easier than a little ball going round a bunch of numbers. |
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Why would the football one or snooker one be any different from the roulette one?
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Swansea 18 unders in a row.
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Lori 20 Mar 10:58
Why would the football one or snooker one be any different from the roulette one? Form, team selections, fixtures blah blah .... getting better prices, avoiding certain fixtures ... with roulette it's just a little ball doing the same thing over and over Anyway, I am off out, never started this thread for a whole discussion on things I have done, wanted to see what others have done and tested. |
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Guess the idea is to have long time playing with the illusion of winning so lots of posts/tips and bank ups and down, then some time later bang bank gone and thread discarded.
Lets see, 1. Laying score draws in football 2. Laying red cards in football 3. Backing Man U to win every game Could be quiet a long list |
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Might be better at least creating a theory such as "No team will lose every game in the IPL because it would be bad for business"
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Schalke, you might understand the law of averages, but you certainly don't understand basic laws of probability.
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wehey23 20 Mar 10:51
You obviously have no grasp of basic maths Schalke...... Waiting for a sequence of 10 before going in just proves the point...... wow, another one ... yeah, lets jump in on thr roullette example, not the football or snooker one, lets go for the roullette one lol. Again I will say, it was an experiment, I didn't ever see a sequence go past 12 in the times I done it, so if it were done with money on those times then I would have made profit, simple .... but it is very different to sports as you have more knowledge in sports and predicting is a little easier than a little ball going round a bunch of numbers. Point proven! |
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How many times will people have to tell you before you understand????
Hundreds of people have tried to give you advice but you just dont get it do you! Maybe you just never will :( |
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As stated earlier, Swansea are currently on a run of 18 unders.
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Schalke 04 20 Mar 10:19
You know, I had never heard of it when I started betting and a lot of my "systems" were based on that kind of betting .... the problem most people have with it is that they do the wrong kind of bets on it. I done hundreds and I mean hindreds of experiments with it and a lot of them do work. Yeah you do need a big bankroll but if you do lots and lots of paper experiments before using real money there are actually ways it pays ..... I would say most wil ldisagree with me, but I have tried and tested many of them in my own ways and have had a good bit of success with it. I won't give all my secrets away but here are a few examples of what I done. 1. I used to just stand and watch roulette table for ages and memorise sequenses, in all the times I watched I never hit a sequence of 12 red or black in the times I was doing this, so when a sequence hits 10 then you go in ... Casino's don't like doubling up so I would pretty much say avoid a roulette table, but this was just an example. The other example is to just keep doing the same bet once for every visit you pay to the casino. 2. Football Over/Under 2.5 goals .... this one took me months to do experiments on and hundreds of paperwork but I did make it pay, even ran a thread on Soccer forum for a while doing it ... Go and check out the sequences of all the teams in the leagues and write down all the sequences to every team in every league you want to do it on. I done it on all the english, scottish, german and spanish. Write back for their last 10 matches, and once you have a sequence of around 7 or 8 in a row thats when you go in with the money as they are due to hit the opposite .... only a few teams in the time I researched reached around 12 in a row but that would only be 4 chases so you would be fine if going in on match 9. Also depends on the fixtures as well, I was avoiding the likely scorelines ie, top club v bottom club, so as well as the sequence you have to sometimes avoid certain fixtures. Good fun, but lot of work keeping on track of all results. 3. Snooker ... very few players go the whole season without a win at decent odds, there are only 6 or 7 events throughout the season ands very rarely does a player lose all of them .... so this is where you use martingale to get those winning bets, and even if you do hit a loser a lot of your other bets will counteract those losses, tried and tested .... can go with 1st frames in matches every event, high breaks, handicaps ..... The worst martingale I ever done was chasing favs to win horses .... just absolutley pointless ! But again it was done on paper before money, so that was avoided ... i imagine if there are say twenty five top class players and only seven events, then at least 18 of those will most definitely not win one.....also if a team has 7 results in a row of say unders, it doesnt mean overs is due...each match is a seperate entity and a fresh start and should be treated as such. Anyone else ever tried any different methods? I love doing it but as you know, you need a good bankroll to do hundreds of bets at once ..... and money sitting there vif needed, oh and every account with the bookies and Betfair |
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sorry those last 2 lines are schalkes, my copy and pasting techniques need work :(
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The best time to try Martin Dale is to wait until there's been a long losing run . Then you know it's due to come up. You can't go wrong. It's the law of averages in action.
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law of averages doesnt come into it....if i toss a coin and it gives 25 consecutive tails, its still even money i'll throw tails on the 26th
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the only time i use the system is for the ** italian football draws that are odds on. 4 losers on the trot is the worst ive experienced in 4 years.
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Lori 20 Mar 10:58
Why would the football one or snooker one be any different from the roulette one? Because you can find value bets ;) |
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sweetchildomine 27 Mar 00:07
i imagine if there are say twenty five top class players and only seven events, then at least 18 of those will most definitely not win one.....also if a team has 7 results in a row of say unders, it doesnt mean overs is due...each match is a seperate entity and a fresh start and should be treated as such. Anyone else ever tried any different methods? I love doing it but as you know, you need a good bankroll to do hundreds of bets at once ..... and money sitting there vif needed, oh and every account with the bookies and Betfair Oh my god, that has to be one of the silliest posts I have ever read !! You are saying that out of the top 25 players in snooker 18 of them will go through the season without winning a match, really, are you kiddin or takin the p!ss !!! Can you please tell me how you worked that out? I stated in my post that rarely does any player go through the season without winning at least one !!! Then you reply with that ????????????????????????????????????????????? The football, yes it's a fresh start and just another match but teams go through dry spells, scoring loads of goals spells, good defence bad defence spells, you must kinow that, thats where the law of averages tend to happen in the overs/unders market. I have done thousands of matches and thats the pattern, instead of trying to dismiss it just because I done it, go and try it for yourself !! Try it for a month and see how you got on !! I might do it on a thread just to see how it goes a 2nd time ... very enjoyable way of betting as well. |
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Schalke 04 27 Mar 12:01
I have done thousands of matches Yes we know you have, and you`ve posted every single one of them :-) |
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Schalke 04 27 Mar 12:01
I might do it on a thread just to see how it goes a 2nd time NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEE GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ;-) |
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you can look at sequences all day long .
Losing runs, doubling up after a shock result, increasing stakes 10%,20%,30% after every loss etc etc Eventually it will drive you crazy and you will end your days in a Psychiatic ward rocking back and forth ,looking up how many times Arsenal are likely to lose 3 times at home in succession and how long ago it was since Rotherham drew 5x 0-0s on the trot |
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Can you please tell me how you worked that out?
If I have 25 pence, and buy 7 penny chews, then I have 18 pence left . |
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and?
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Schalke 04 27 Mar 12:01
sweetchildomine 27 Mar 00:07 i imagine if there are say twenty five top class players and only seven events, then at least 18 of those will most definitely not win one.....also if a team has 7 results in a row of say unders, it doesnt mean overs is due...each match is a seperate entity and a fresh start and should be treated as such. Anyone else ever tried any different methods? I love doing it but as you know, you need a good bankroll to do hundreds of bets at once ..... and money sitting there vif needed, oh and every account with the bookies and Betfair Oh my god, that has to be one of the silliest posts I have ever read !! You are saying that out of the top 25 players in snooker 18 of them will go through the season without winning a match, really, are you kiddin or takin the p!ss !!! Can you please tell me how you worked that out? I stated in my post that rarely does any player go through the season without winning at least one !!! Then you reply with that ????????????????????????????????????????????? The football, yes it's a fresh start and just another match but teams go through dry spells, scoring loads of goals spells, good defence bad defence spells, you must kinow that, thats where the law of averages tend to happen in the overs/unders market. I have done thousands of matches and thats the pattern, instead of trying to dismiss it just because I done it, go and try it for yourself !! Try it for a month and see how you got on !! I might do it on a thread just to see how it goes a 2nd time ... very enjoyable way of betting as well. calm yourself down shalke and take a deep breath....try a packet of settlers...you only need 8 winning bets up and you can afford a packet......NOW I THOGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO TOURNAMENTS NOT INDIVIDUAL MATCHES....OK?? |