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By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 01 Nov 09 19:14
Evening "guys"......been watching footy .....

Top2R - A bit knackered ....but did have a look at the site posted ...and will read more once feeling a bit sharper!!!!! Thanks for that.........intial though was that using an average margin is not being as accurate as you can on a particular bet.........Think so far the Kelly calculator is fine for use.....but I am still choosing wrong horse of 2 too often.

Think today was one of those days where had one horse not fallen when winning, then that with the last race , where 153 points not obtained through posting odds early , was a day that could have been very profitable indeed....even when I had few winning selections, and no winning selection at higher odds !!!! Bank down today ....when, with a wee bit luck on faller etc could have been 150 points up on day. ...on a poor day for results..........so "happy" with that really. Feel my selections will hit a hot run in due course and bank will jump substantially......

Also, I had MISS SOPHISTOCAT as initial selecton late on....but changed it to haley Turner one....really stupid as I knew the factors favoured MISS SOPHISTOCAT......so again , on another day would have stuck with what I know and not wavered..........had had few returns all day when MISS S race came along , and I suspect my "confidence" wavered a wee bit there.....so chose wrong one of two.

Not really firing yet ...and it will happen......so "happy" with the KC so far and will continue with using it this week ( though may have to do some work tomorrow or next day ...not sure yet!!!)

Don't know what your blog is MFS ????....so what I have not read can't "hurt" me :D

Switchhing computer off now..........been on too long !!!

GL with bets.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 10:48
12.40 Pearly Star


ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =899.46 points at start of today
Available odds: 9.40 (betfair)
My odds: 6-1 (14.29 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 31.93 points WIN
By:
Mudflaps
When: 02 Nov 09 11:08
Best of luck today DFC
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 11:16
12.50 El Distintivo

Was tempted by above one as PLACE ONLY bet ....but odds are c rap! So leaving race alone.


As first time out in race here, and over Hurdles, then looks a very very competitive race and hard to win...........might run a place. The trainer does not get many first time out horses winning.....I think......I might be wrong on that, and if I am...sorry VW, a top trainer IMO. So hesitated a bit on the win selection....and chickened out now even with place only!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 11:16
Cheers MFS ...we all need that !!!! Gl yourself with blog etc.....
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 11:36
Pearly Star odds drfited well out....but leaving as is .....as the race is a CONDITIONAL J race etc ....so risked enough on this one.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 11:48
2.12 £17
2.14 £18
2.16 £0
2.18 £1
2.20 £10
2.22 £97
2.24 £93
2.28 £22 £0
2.32 £324
2.34 £75 £398
2.36 £49
2.40 £38
2.42 £41
2.44 £57
2.46 £106
2.48 £90
2.50 £9
2.52 £130
2.54 £20 £200
2.58 £39
2.60 £21
2.62 £161
2.64 £50
2.66 £8
2.70 £2 £104
2.78 £8
2.84 £18 £20
2.92 £12
2.96 £50
3.00 £95 £393
3.05 £234
3.10 £272

3.15 £30
3.20 £50 £139
3.25 £44 £24
3.30 £900
3.35 £43 £193
3.40 £15 £268
3.45 £52
3.50 £150
3.55 £55
3.65 £113
3.70 £308
3.75 £55
3.80 £80
3.85 £210
3.90 £13
3.95 £929
4.00 £12 £921
4.10 £32 £154
4.20 £251
4.30 £711
4.40 £532
4.50 £5 £897
4.60 £110
4.70 £17
4.80 £0
4.90 £21 £358
5.00 £14 £653
5.10 £95
5.20 £96
5.30 £206
5.40 £57
5.50 £141
5.60 £27
5.70 £107
5.80 £95
5.90 £2 £13
6.00 £500 £170
6.20 £177
6.40 £8
6.60 £106
6.80 £51
7.00 £0 £374
7.20 £11
7.40 £50
7.80 £14
8.00 £11 £204
8.20 £19
8.40 £22
8.60 £48
8.80 £85
9.00 £270
9.20 £345
9.40 £719
9.60 £328
9.80 £354
10.00 £390
10.50 £200
11.00 £150 £328
11.50 £317
12.00 £818
12.50 £396
13.00 £556
13.50 £146
14.00 £160 £1,592
14.11 £365 £4,314


PEARLY STAR IR win odds ...good for traders ....
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 11:50
1.10 SERIOUS CHANCE


ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =867.53 points
Available odds: 8.6 (betfair)
My odds: 6-1 (14.29 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 24.93 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:01
1.20 top 2 in market is where winner should come from....the going might not suit fav ....but has had more race experience than Darnall one.....just hard to call which one might win.....so leaving race alone.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:12
Trouble with 1.10 race ...we have a fav with race under belt....should run a good race......and some 4 yods without a run....which one will take fav on.....fav probably wins IF stays upright.....

SERIOUS CHANCE may not be given too hard a ride....against such a fit horse as fav......unlless a class above it, then won't need to be too hard ridden.....soon see.......market seems to be telling the story it won't win.

Suspect SC is 4th or 5th ...soon see
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:12
SERIOUS CHOICE even !!!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:17
5.30 £10
5.39 £23
5.54 £2
5.69 £39
5.84 £21
5.99 £60
6.00 £13 £4
6.14 £94
6.29 £141
6.40 £4
6.44 £14
6.59 £76
6.74 £14
6
6.80 £29
6.89 £44
7.00 £38 £80
7.04 £25
7.19 £31
7.20 £164
7.40 £1,219
7.60 £1,106
7.80 £390
8.00 £837
8.20 £576
8.40 £767
8.60 £6 £1,458
8.80 £1,724
9.00 £516
9.20 £873
9.40 £889
9.60 £735
9.80 £2,338
10.00 £4,970
10.50 £1,871
11.00 £1,213
11.50 £872
12.00 £644
12.50 £686
13.00 £429
13.50 £37
14.00 £612
14.50 £176
14.62 £257 £8,583


Some scope for traders on SERIOUS CHOICE again.....................WIN odds IR......
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:19
1.45 race not clear ...so no selection
By:
Muqbil
When: 02 Nov 09 12:20
Those odds on SC were matched before the off, DFC.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:21
What M???? the 5.10 odds ?????
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:24
I know the odds did come inafter I posted it as selection...was down to 7.XX........but then it drifted out........

Sorry if I have misread odds........horse was running on a wee bit....and thought it might have been backed at 5/6s IR ....though did look well beat and no hope of winning.......

Any idea how low it did go IR M?
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:25
7.00 £38 £80

When odds shown like the above...are figures on right( £80) not IR odds?????
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:33
1.55 no strong feelings on the race ...pass!



PRINCE DE MARAIS and SPANISH CRUISE are maybes....but the type of race and going puts me off a bit ...so pass.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:36
2.05 a MAIDEN STAKES race ......MUREB is obvious one......and could well win....but there are a few horses with race experience, and don't like shape of race......so pass AGAIN!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:46
2.20 Hello My Lovely


ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =842.60 points
Available odds: 8.6 (betfair)
My odds: 7-1 (12.50 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 17.13 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:46
Correction ...now 9.8
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 12:47
2.20 Hello My Lovely


ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =842.60 points
Available odds: 9.8 (betfair)
My odds: 7-1 (12.50 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 17.13 points WIN
By:
Muqbil
When: 02 Nov 09 12:58
If you get organised the night before you can often get matched at some really out of line prices. It's sometimes worth putting small speculative bets up if you have an idea what the price should be. Occasionally you can get lucky and be matched.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 13:02
2.30 Special Occasion


ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =825.47 points
Available odds:11.50 (betfair)
My odds: 8-1 (11.11%)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 18.15 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 13:05
Cheers Muqbil.


Only thing re night before betting is the going!!!!! Even AW racing can change over night :D

However, I know if you have a horse that you believe will run a big race , no matter the going, that can be worth casting net out early ]:) :D


Gl with bets today.
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 13:09
So BEST one wins 2.05 ...pity about the first horse I selected earlier ......he did well to win that race......though opposition on race performance never looked that good !!!!!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 13:30
1.25 £602 £1,946
1.26 £405
1.27 £400
1.30 £98
1.31 £516
1.32 £346
1.33 £476
1.34 £355
1.35 £104
1.36 £81
1.39 £49
1.40 £2,940
1.41 £210
1.43 £108
1.44 £7
1.50 £2,281
1.51 £18
1.52 £20
1.53 £44
1.54 £149
1.55 £2
42
1.56 £12
1.57 £422
1.60 £247
1.62 £542
1.63 £335
1.65 £88
1.66 £308
1.67 £65
1.69 £205
1.70 £404
1.72 £27
1.73 £6
1.76 £632
1.77 £124
1.78 £30
1.80 £188
1.83 £22
1.90 £334
1.91 £4
1.94 £92
1.95 £78
2.00 £1,511
2.02 £4,518
2.04 £7
2.06 £361
2.08 £1
2.10 £1,969
2.12 £360
2.14 £49
2.16 £0
2.18 £56
2.20 £200
2.22 £66
2.24 £90
2.26 £4
2.30 £40
2.32 £68
2.34 £0
2.40 £100
2.44 £29
2.48 £95
2.50 £247
2.52 £136
2.54 £152
2.58 £10
2.64 £129
2.66 £90
2.70 £14
2.72 £437
2.74 £31
2.76 £256
2.80 £230
2.82 £138
2.84 £14
2.88 £160
2.90 £36
2.92 £395
2.94 £60
2.98 £692
3.00 £413
3.05 £143
3.10 £73
3.15 £218
3.20 £308
3.25 £77
3.30 £167
3.35 £82
3.40 £145
3.45 £44
3.50 £124
3.60 £4
3.65 £0
3.80 £32
3.90 £18
3.95 £8
4.00 £1,258
4.10 £405
4.20 £64
4.30 £88
4.40 £424
4.50 £688
4.60 £138
4.70 £107
4.80 £197
4.90 £65
5.00 £1,318
5.10 £161
5.20 £164
5.30 £39
5.40 £115
5.50 £183
5.60 £228
5.70 £122
5.80 £6
5.90 £126
6.00 £172
6.20 £385
6.60 £230
6.80 £143
7.00 £726
7.20 £240
7.40 £212
7.60 £645
7.80 £238
8.00 £1,802
8.20 £441
8.40 £794
8.60 £731
8.80 £1,023
9.00 £2,239
9.20 £5,474
9.40 £5,244
9.60 £3,389
9.80 £2,329
10.00 £6,733
10.50 £6,248
10.59 £304 £3,851


HELLO MY LOVELY IR win odds .....awkward horse to ride .....CHARLIE DRAKE would be proud of run though!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 13:32
2.40 BLAST


ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =807.32 points
Available odds:18 (betfair)
My odds: 10 -1 (9.09%)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 27.94 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 13:36
5.60 £14
5.70 £4
5.80 £7
5.90 £24
6.00 £20 £38
6.20 £2 £79
6.40 £6 £96
6.60 £3 £148
6.80 £4 £23
7.00 £53
7.20 £5 £164
7.40 £365
7.60 £201
7.80 £187
8.00 £14 £26

8.20 £5 £20
8.40 £226
8.60 £493
8.80 £469
9.00 £6 £76
9.20 £34
9.40 £14
9.60 £2 £16
9.80 £9 £238
10.00 £32 £285
10.50 £246
11.00 £13 £424
11.50 £711
12.00 £21 £993
12.50 £5 £466
13.00 £6 £971
13.50 £5,166
14.00 £160 £9,838 £713 £14,298

SPECIAL OCCASION odds IR win market ...not so good....
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 13:40
2.55 Prince Pippin

ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =779.38 points
Available odds:70 (betfair)
My odds: 40-1 (2.44%)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 7.42 points EW ...place odds at 8.8


Gotta do place bet as odds are reasonable
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 13:49
3.05 Pasco

ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =764.54 points
Available odds:4.6 (betfair)
My odds: 5-2 (28.57 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 58.75 points WIN

As bacchanal thread has BATTLECRY worth a bet ...will do a cover SFC selection with BC to beat PASCO for 10 points
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 14:05
3.15 Herecomethegirls

ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =695.79 points
Available odds: 13 (betfair)
My odds: 7-1 (12.5 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 33.57 points WIN
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 14:06
:D :D :D
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 14:12
BANK before PRINCE PIPPIN WIN was 662.22 points

PLACE STAKE RETURN 7.42
PLACE PROFIT 7.8 X 7.42 - 5 % 54.98

WIN STAKE RETURN 7.42
WIN PROFIT PP 69 X 7.42 - 5% 486.38
-----------------

BANK before 3.15 race 1218.42 points
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 14:16
Plumpton 2.55 Full Result
1st 5 Prince Pippin (IRE) 40-1
2nd 1 Troubletimestwo (FR) 13-8 F
3rd 2 Witch Of The Wave (IRE) 13-2



Well I did guess the probability of it winning as being 40-1 SP..........so maybe I am getting good at the probability.....pity ....as if was bad I might have had more on :D ]:)
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 14:20
3.30 Thursday's Knight
ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =1218.42 points
Available odds:8.2 (betfair)
My odds: 6-1 (14.29 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 21.44 points WIN
By:
Mudflaps
When: 02 Nov 09 14:25
Wd DFC, excellent result
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 14:27
Need a few more high odds ones ......the 2nd early on was a close one.....

I suspect would have been staking more on that one if not using a calculator...as bets tend to increase as day goes on with me...especially IF I was winning......normally that is when I seem to lose control of staking!!!!

Cheers MFS ...
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 14:30
3.40 too open for me....so no selection DON'T TELL THE WIFE ....might do ok ....not sure though!!!!
By:
DFCIRONMAN
When: 02 Nov 09 14:34
3.50 Kazbow


ATTEMPT 1 Bank : LOST 1,000 points

ATTEMPT 2 Bank =1196.98 points
Available odds: 2.7 (betfair)
My odds: 6-4 (40 %)
Kelly (incl 5% commission) = STAKE 34.09 points WIN
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