Female football fan expresses despair about allowing a domestic abuser/possible rapist wear the shirt and says she's considering stopping her support.



Response?



Hey, let's make up some songs about her sucking our knobs.





Stay classy Utd.

Exactly WD Riley only knows what has been in the Daily Mail.

PP it's not misogynistic to ridicule someone who is a fool like Riley.

This place is certainly covering itself in glory today.

I didn't see Rachel Riley complaining when a Foreign Power intervened in a UK General Election PP.

All I am saying is her opinion sucks.

Stay classy Utd.


Hilarious coming from a supporter of a club that printed tee-shirts to support a racist.

Is the somewhat laughable suggestion that Utd are the only fan base that might take unkindly to her involvement in an issue of this kind and may or may not make up a song voicing their displeasure ?

come off it PP..

for what it's worth according to the United We Stand editor the general consensus and feedback amongst the fanbase (slightly surprisingly to me) was strongly in favour of him not playing for Utd again..

Greenwood has been accused of crimes then denied the right to defend himself. That can't be right.

Then people with platforms but only superficial knowledge of the case launch a campaign to have him cancelled.

Can't recall much outrage among the L'pool fanbase about Suarez racially abusing Evra or biting people...it's almost as if there's double standards at play....

I've not changed my position throughout...if he'd been found guilty he should go to prison and never play for the club again...

if he's not been found guilty - which he hasn't as the case collapsed, then he should be free to pursue his career..though I understand United's position that the circus and noise is just too much for them to wish to go that route...

he is free to carry on his career same as clubs are free to say not with us
to maybe help get a club .even man utd HE AND HIS PARTNER ARE ALSE FREE TO PUBLISH THE EVIDENCE THAT CLEAR HIM
the fact he and man utd would rather give up than do so,should tell everyone that if its yellow and quacks its a duck

PP She's at her sisters. You point it out.

PP So you can't actually find anywhere where I have been misogynistic to Rachel Riley or any other woman.

Typical.

Like you Mrs Clarke can see no misogamy in my posts.

So PP please now point out exactly where I have been misogynistic towards Rachel Riley or any other woman.

So far you accused me of misogamy, lying and now sealioning. I'll deal with all these accusations.

My post of 3.51 was not misogynistic. Just because it was directed at a woman does not make it misogynistic.

Mrs Clarke thinks it was crude but being a long time football fan who has followed her club the length and breadth of the country she has sung worse.

As for sealioning, I only asked you one simple question. It's not my fault you kept dodging it.

I think I'm inspiring that post and also think I'm being misrepresented tbh.


I've stated (at least a couple of times now) that he should be allowed to play on, and probably could be playing for Utd if they'd handled it better. He hasn't been convicted after all. There are a lot of questions still and the evidence out there would - imo - lead most normal people to the conclusion that he's treated her poorly with signs of abuse and controlling behaviour. The defence has often seemed to rely on "well, why is she still with him?" which seems to be spoken by those who've had their heads in a hole their whole lives. Woman goes back to man after he promises he won't do it again. Nope, never happened before.

Anyhoo, that's for them. They're adults and they can make their own decisions.


As for Utd's confidence in his innocence, well that's a genuine lol moment. The most commercially-minded club around make a commercially-beneficial decision. The most obvious question would be what qualifications the inquiry members had to make a balanced and informed decision. How much experience in dealing with domestic abuse do they have? And if they're so convinced he's innocent why did they fold so cheaply? If they thought they had compelling evidence that proves his innocence, why not just present it so the world can see how wronged he was? Are those convinced of his innocence not just a tiny bit concerned as to why they were scared to share this supposed new evidence?

My take on it is pretty simple. The lad's reputation and career is in tatters. If he was so innocent why is he just twiddling his thumbs? Why hasn't he gotten in front of it and told the truth? If it was faked, if there was a wider context, if they like to play rough, then why not just say so? Any tabloid would jump at the chance to cover it. But it's slightly odd for someone to be so quiet if they were innocent isn't it?

As for misogynists, I've personally only called one out when there was a pretty blatant example of it. From what I've seen around on SM, there is a split between actual misogynists (often not Utd fans, but the usual woman-hating mob that fall in with the other typical right-wing views of today) and Utd fans who want a talented player back. I've only really seen one example of misogyny on here from a Utd fan from what I can tell. And it deserved calling out, cos it was rank. Otherwise nobby's not that bad (for a Utd fan).

I don't think anyone has ever been successfully convicted of rape without the victim testifying have they?

PP
I don't think anyone has ever been successfully convicted of rape without the victim testifying have they?

FYI Greenwood was never charged with rape.

Your post just goes to show how little facts matter when bias and prejudice takes over.

My own opinion based on what is in the public domain and what we have learnt about Mason and his girlfriend is that this was a domestic between two immature and spoilt young adults which got blown out of all proportion by the involvement of social media and the police.