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By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 03 Sep 23 15:03
Antony has been accused of allsorts including damaging her breast implant by his ex-wife.

Sounds very much like a shakedown.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 03 Sep 23 15:08
1st time poster Not one of them has been found guilty.


Maybe just for ABU bigots like yourself we should just scrap the whole judicial system and replace it with Rachel Riley and the Daily Mail LaughLaughLaugh
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 03 Sep 23 15:19
1tp you misrepresent me.

I just find it odd she objects to greenwood but not antony
By:
lurka
When: 03 Sep 23 19:24

Sep 3, 2023 -- 12:40PM, Wesdag wrote:


In such cases of abusive & coercive control, the "victims" do not see themselves as victims.


There is no coercive control when everything has gone public, he has been 'named and shamed' for alleged acts, her family knows and they are broken up and apart for a period with the cops involved. But her father on the same day acted as if the allegations weren't true and suggested that they may not even have been made by her. He didn't have a bad word to say about Greenwood at any stage, despite what he allegedly did to his daughter. She willingly went back to him, they had a kid together. She didn't go to the police as her priority, she went to social media to damage him as her priority and the police actually came to her house after all the furore over it.

At what point do you stop assuming guilt given all of these strange facts inconsistent with guilt? At what point do you stop assuming that he did anything she alleged or that there was coercive control. What else do you need to see?

By:
1st time poster
When: 03 Sep 23 20:12
would suggest to most people that wider family were worried about losing a multi million £ meal ticket
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 03 Sep 23 20:26

Sep 3, 2023 -- 2:45PM, SirNorbertClarke wrote:


scandanavian_haven nobody from his camp has ever come out and denied it,Err he pled not guilty in court.scandanavian_haven there's been no refutation at all,“I want to start by saying I understand that people will judge me because of what they have seen and heard on social media, and I know people will think the worst."I was brought up to know that violence or abuse in any relationship is wrong, I did not do the things I was accused of, and in February I was cleared of all charges. However, I fully accept I made mistakes in my relationship, and I take my share of responsibility for the situations which led to the social media post.scandanavian_haven you are as bad as Rachel Riley.


>I might be wrong but I don't think pleas were ever made at a court hearing.

By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 04 Sep 23 17:40
UOL Esporte from Brazil had access to new domestic violence evidence from Man United’s Antony against his girlfriend, going as recent as May this year. Horrible and shocking,he beat her up whilst she was pregnant,his own mum had to lock him in the house so he wouldn’t kill the gf


Life of Riley!
By:
Wesdag
When: 04 Sep 23 18:16
lurka • September 3, 2023 7:24 PM BST

At what point do you stop assuming guilt given all of these strange facts inconsistent with guilt? At what point do you stop assuming that he did anything she alleged or that there was coercive control. What else do you need to see?

Once we've been given a full explanation about what appeared on social media.
Still strangely lacking.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 04 Sep 23 18:23
Wesdag the CPS decided the material on SM wouldn't lead to a conviction.

but obviously that isn't good enough for Rachel's kangaroo court.
By:
Wesdag
When: 04 Sep 23 18:48
If you're his agent, you need to tell him to stop hiding behind the CPS & explain what happened as referenced by the stuff in the public domain.

Btw, the CPS don't have a great track record in abuse cases.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 04 Sep 23 18:56
Let's face some facts.

The CPS dropping their charges will never be enough to the ABUs or those who run their own kangaroo courts.

End of.
By:
lurka
When: 04 Sep 23 20:01
He doesn't have to explain anything publicly, nobody would believe him anyway, plus there may be problems identifying or referring to her which she doesn't have if she talks about it.

If you need an explanation  how about one from her as to why the allegations were withdrawn and she went back to an alleged abuser and had a kid with him? She is the one who went public with it and made the allegations after all.

Neither of them have to explain to anybody and the explanation may involve her having to admit making a false accusation and wasting police time. They are both on the same page now and neither of them wants to talk in detail about it publicly and they have their reasons for that.

I don't get why people assume guilt when she is back with him and the CPS and Arnold both referred to new material which came to light after the initial claims, then allegations were withdrawn, charges were dropped and Arnold said he is satisfied as to innocence. None of that is consistent with guilt.
By:
Wesdag
When: 04 Sep 23 20:45
Neither of them have to explain to anybody and the explanation may involve her having to admit making a false accusation and wasting police time.

Small price to pay wouldn't you say?
By:
Wesdag
When: 04 Sep 23 20:48
Btw, Arnold has a pecuniary interest wouldn't you say?
Plus he's not a judge.
Rachel quite rightly called him out on that.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 04 Sep 23 23:09
Plus he's not a judge.

Neither is Rachel Riley or yourself.
By:
Crisp77
When: 04 Sep 23 23:47
Rachel Riley is. She judges people’s maths and English on tv.
By:
tobermory
When: 05 Sep 23 01:32
Antony dropped from Brazil squad because of his ex girlfriend 's allegations.
By:
Wesdag
When: 05 Sep 23 13:20

Sep 4, 2023 -- 11:09PM, SirNorbertClarke wrote:


Plus he's not a judge.Neither is Rachel Riley or yourself.


Tbf, she nor I ever said we were judges.
I'm simply curious about the whole case.
For this money man Arnold at ManU to declare Greenwood as innocent was farcical.

By:
Wesdag
When: 05 Sep 23 13:20

Sep 5, 2023 -- 1:32AM, tobermory wrote:


Antony dropped from Brazil squad because of his ex girlfriend 's allegations.


Hopefully Rachel's on the case Grin

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Sep 23 14:13
I think Greenwood might well be back in January if he starts banging them in against the olive growers in Spain.

United have huaoge problems although I think 10 Hag is a good manager. The young boy up front looks a handful and Amrabat is going to prove exactly how smart some of the Premier League Managers are. The loan was genius particularly put against £65 Million for Havertz. I think Amrabat is far more than a cart horse when sometimes all great teams need a cart horse or water carrier. United's full backs were particularly effective against Arsenal's finest. Their forwards cut us open and the boy bullied Brasillian Teak. They passed the ball around the back just fine and Arsenal did not press. Their goal keep looks to add more than just a goal keeper.

Oh and I would enjoy the Surrey reds to suffer but I think they are not as far off as some might think despite being truly awful so far this season!
By:
GoBallistic
When: 05 Sep 23 14:15
Serious questions need to be asked about this latest bombshell.

How on earth did Antony get in the Brazil squad ?
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Sep 23 14:19
Yeah and picked in the Word Cup when better players were on the bench!

This. Is. A. Disgrace!
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Sep 23 14:20
full backs did particularly well
martinelli tortured basaka for  75 mins,not sure which game you were watching
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Sep 23 14:31
I didn't think so. Dalot covered Saka particularly well. The first goal was bad choices in central defence. Rice scored off a mishit deflection, Jesus scored a goal of pure class that left Dalot on his jacksy. Dalot had few options and had to cover the shot.
By:
Racingqueen
When: 05 Sep 23 14:47
Well said Rachel. Thug of a football club. Should be wound up imho
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Sep 23 14:55
well thats dalo and saka sorted now what about martinelli torturing basaka for 75 mins LaughLaugh
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 05 Sep 23 15:21
I don't think so!

Great pass for the goal but what did he create?
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 05 Sep 23 15:46
How come Rachel hasn't called for Thomas Partey to be omitted from the Arsenal squad?
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 05 Sep 23 16:03
cos she's a Utd fan, and talking about how conflicted she feels supporting such a player.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 05 Sep 23 16:29
Oh so she's only going to hold United players to account. Arsenal & City players can do what they want. Seems reasonable.
By:
Wesdag
When: 05 Sep 23 16:34

Sep 5, 2023 -- 3:46PM, SirNorbertClarke wrote:


How come Rachel hasn't called for Thomas Partey to be omitted from the Arsenal squad?


Lol, classic look over there/whataboutery.
It's terrible that Greenwood's had his career put on hold...Whatabout Partey? Crazy

By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 05 Sep 23 16:40
It's not whataboutery. It's asking a simple question.

Riley has now twice called for United players to not play for the club. Why is she not calling for other footballers to be suspended.

Kyle Walker allegedly got his dick out in a bar. He has since been made City captain. Where was Riley's outrage?
By:
Wesdag
When: 05 Sep 23 16:44
She only said she'd stop supporting ManU. Wouldn't work in other cases if she took the same stance.
Plus, she's a busy woman - she can't be getting involved in every case.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 05 Sep 23 16:47
She's talking about her own club.

It's taken her ages to catch up on Antony news.

I'm sure she is equally outraged by all the
reported bad behaviour but feels it's for others
to deal with their own clubs.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 05 Sep 23 16:50
She's talking about her own club.

It's taken her ages to catch up on Antony news.

I'm sure she is equally outraged by all the
reported bad behaviour but feels it's for others
to deal with their own clubs.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 05 Sep 23 16:53
It wouldn't take Rachel 5 minutes to draft a press release condemning City appointing Walker as captain.

Ditto Arteta continuing to play a player on bail FFS.
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 05 Sep 23 17:10
Yep she could, but she doesn't support those teams
so has no conflict in supporting players accussed of bad stuff.


I'm on your side, more or less, she's just one voice,
but because she's famous her followers will pile
on and she becomes more famous, which is what
she is about.

She likes a libel case, she needs to be careful.
By:
1st time poster
When: 05 Sep 23 17:11
like expecting the utds anti glazer,s  green and blacks to hold protests atchelsea because they dont like the way their club is run,
why didnt newcastle anti ashley fans protest at utd about glazers,vica versa
she supports utd,if utd bought partty/walker she might have an opinion
dont really think this is that hard to follow ,whether you agree or not is a different matter,plenty of fans stopped supporting clubs/boycotted clubs because of players,managers the club has signed
By:
----you-have-to-laugh---
When: 05 Sep 23 17:11
Yep she could, but she doesn't support those teams
so has no conflict in supporting * those* players accussed of bad stuff.
By:
SirNorbertClarke
When: 05 Sep 23 17:44
Rachel Riley Reveals Male Celebrity Upskirted Her At A Party

Upskirting is a criminal offence yet Riley didn't report the incident to the police.

Riley also refuses to name the celebrity and his friends who also watched the video stream leaving other women at risk from this sex offender.

Rachel's silence is endangering women so that's pretty disgraceful. Maybe if the offender had a United connection.....
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