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VAR is becoming ridiculous with things like this happening !
VAR is becoming ridiculous with things like this happening !
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should do it like they do in holland, go with the lino call unless obviously offside to the eye on replay (without drawing the lines etc) and can be checked in under 30 seconds
eg. neres is probably offside but a very close call and goal stands https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7nezj1 have a look at 19 seconds in |
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 Perhaps its His Hand  |
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https://streamja.com/0QB1
Clip of incident |
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The reaction of the Spurs fans says alot about the desperate state they are in ,in the Premier at the mo .
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It gets worse every week. I'm boycotting until they sort it out, I can't have my money at risk when there's a clearly every effort being made to rule out goals on any pre-text. VAR in the EPL has now become the realm of 'alternative facts'.
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Not seen the Sheff utd disallowed yet but the madness continues and to aggravate the problem they are making these calls on lead up play which is another issue,how can these VAR people be allowed to forensically examine an incident for 4 minutes for offside on one hand then on the other hand they are not perfect camera angles which can distort the decision then there is the issue as to whether they are getting the exact split second right when contact is first made for the pass as you take it back a milli of a second and he's not offside,i want to scream at the VAR policy makers that this is not what we fans want drawing lines across the pitch in build up play to forensically examine whether a toe is offside from inaccurate angles and timings.
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Its been said many times Its a control mechanism, controlling the outcome of games and making money into the boot Its painfully obvious what's going on and until fans kick up a stink and get it scrapped this s*** will carry on Becoming something when fans and players can't celebrate because of fear of the bas*ards in the VAR bunker 'making sure everything is good' |
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Its really not for very marginal decisions ffs, its to cut out the really big mistakes
How the feck can they chalk a goal out because a hand is deemed by them to be in an offside position ? Its beyond the pale |
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I was all for it initially as it works brilliantly in rugby but the way it's being used in football is ridiculous.
A goal be chalked off after 4 minutes of checking because of a toenail offside 3 phases of play back yet someone could be murdered in the box but they won't give it because the ref didn't. It's become an absolute farce and as said can be used to control games now. This wasn't how it was supposed to be. |
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A goal be chalked off after 4 minutes of checking because of a toenail offside 3 phases of play back yet someone could be murdered in the box but they won't give it because the ref didn't.
Exactly I've seen some ridiculous fouls in the box and been waiting for VAR to pop up.... nothing But a goal goes in and there looks absolutely nothing wrong with it and then up pops VAR, and as you say they've found a fingernail that's strayed offside ffs Its a joke |
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VAR is a good idea but common sense is required
No it isn't. |
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As I said from day 1, it has been brought in to remotely control the outcome of games. There's no doubt about it, every game is the same, it is clear they are making it up as they go along, VAR sees only what it wants to see.
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As clear cut a penalty as you will ever see in the Leicester match tonight when Guendouzi yanked back Soyuncu.Anyone seeing that would have to be blind pew not to have given it yet VAR decreed...nothing to see here...fcking ridiculous the whole var concept.Ruining the game for everyone.
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McGoldrick thought he had equalised just two minutes after Son's opener, but VAR replays showed that Lundstram's toe had been marginally offside in the build-up
You wouldn't think that was written by a major media outlet would you 4 minutes to find as well, if that's not proof they are using it for ill practice I don't know what else to say |
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Its so obvious I'm beginning to wonder if they want us to know ffs
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I was at the Spurs game today,"clear and obvious mistake" it wasn't ,nobody had a clue
what's going on. 3/4 minutes to sort out it's an absolute disaster. The Spurs fans I think have a lot of sympathy for their opponents, yes we cheered, but the Leicester situation with Sonny was identical but went against us. It's an unmitigated disaster.Get rid. |
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It was never going to work in football like it does in Cricket and Rugby though, because football is a faster paced sport with little disruption in the play
Cricket it works well because its played at a much more naturally mundane pace, fans know this and still love the sport Whatever happens, just give the fans some flags and create a fake atmosphere ffs Its modern day society in a nutshell  Worn down by constant marketing scams I mean schemes |
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On another Point have a Look where the Linesman is in the Pic PMSFL and he aint called it
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it's affecting the betting markets too adversely ...takes years for markets to right themselves... everyone a bag of nerves once there's a goal .
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Not a Big football Player Coach , But I can Imagine chaos .. Its getting silly TBH HOW MANY PLAYS CAN THEY GO BACK ,Keeper Kicks ball foot out of area 6 plays later
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VAR is killing the game & every supporter can see it ... those who lobbied for its introduction must surely admit it does not work because of the continuity; flow & the way football is played. Lets just accept refs make mistakes but they should be the final arbiter on decisions ..
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It isn't working; I can't argue there Geordie, but to say it does not work is a little premature at this juncture. As soon as I heard it was being introduced I wrote off this season as a trial to get it right, as there was always going to be teething problems. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but there is no way it can remain as it is. If it isn't clear (like the Sheff Utd toe) then let it go to the attacking team, which is so simple, considerably faster and palatable to most football supporters out there.
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it had to be introduced after the lampard goal or not goal v germany in that world cup match , and that where it should stay, has the ball crossed the line , and mistaken identity as if a wrong bloke being sent off, leave every other aspect to refs
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The one incident about VAR that sticks in my mind is Arsenals third goal against Palace being overruled which quite frankly was an absolutely absurd decision.
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waiting for a var this afternoon just to see klopp go krakatoaesque
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morpteh mackem • November 10, 2019 1:05 PM GMT
waiting for a var this afternoon just to see klopp go krakatoaesque You read it right but t'other way round  |
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VAR at least got it right for the City penalty claim stating his arm was not in an unnatural position or were they bricking it cos it would have been a double whammy otherwise a Liverpool goal chalked off and a city pen,personally i did not think it was handball under the new rules for defenders in the box and i hope VAR got it right because of this and not the other scenario.
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Are the 3 or 4 mins waiting for VAR results added on at the end ??
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No the full amount of injury time plus VAR time is never added together to give the true amount of time added on,its as though no one can be bothered to do the maths and they treat all the fans as simpletons when they are frequently demanding fair play which involves the correct amount of time added on which never happens.
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The thing I'm confused by in the chat about Trent's pen/non-pen chat is that if City had scored in that play, the goal would have been chalked off because of the contact the ball made with Silva's hand in the build-up, yeah (irrespective of intent)? If that's the case, how could they possibly let that go and and then give a penalty against Trent because they didn't score?
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All the pundits seem to think it should have been a penalty but the moment the ball struck the attacking city players hand in the penalty box would rule out any penalty anyway and a free kick would have been given to Liverpool this is because of the new handball rules for attackers state that no matter how accidental the attackers handball is they will not benefit from any goal or penalty that would derive from that incident , they all conveniently seem to forget the new handball rules for attackers inside the box which i may add are a complete farce.
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Indeed.
Play wasn't stopped for, not one, but two handballs, which makes VAR and the referee even poorer in hindsight |
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Think someone from Sky will be reading our posts then reminding the pundits of the new handball rules they are so sadly lacking knowledge in
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premier league have stated it wasnt a penalty because arm was in a natural position this clearly isnt the case, deflection is irrelevant here because it .5 of a second between hitting the hand and hitting taa's arm, reaction time is .2 second
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It wasn't even a VAR decision. Oliver had a clear view of the incident and waved away the appeals.
From that moment it was clear Liverpool were going to win. |
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Of course it was a VAR decision, VAR looks at all potential penalty incidents. They obviously felt the ref hadn't made a clear and obvious error or else they fully agreed with him. There is nothing in the rules about reaction time. But yes it does appear that they have ruled it out on the basis of the arm not being in an unnatural position or more correctly 'being close to the body and not making the body unnaturally bigger', which I don't agree with, it made the body a lot bigger imo.
what is natural and unnatural should not be a subjective decision and it appears to be, which is ridiculous. It should be clearly defined. The PL's own site says: 'Premier League players will be allowed extra leeway when it comes to ricocheted handballs... So a handball will not be awarded if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from their own head/body/foot or the head/body/foot of another player who is close/nearby.' I assumed this is why they didn't give it and I still think that is a good reason not to give it even though his arm made his body unnaturally bigger. |
