Football
VAR is becoming ridiculous with things like this happening !
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It would not be difficult to implement the changes needed to get the best out of it but i doubt we will get them as far too much common sense required to kick start it
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Common sense and the administrators ... next
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Yep. Agreed,
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They have a great tool at their disposal but if you try to pick a lock with a sledgehammer you will only get a mess similar to what we currently have.
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good points
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The problem with the Premier league VAR is that they have to follow the protocol laid down by FIFA with regards to how VAR is used and interpreted and that is why they draw these silly inaccurate lines across the pitch trying to catch a toe offside,i have lost count of the numerous times i saw goals chalked off last season in the German,Spanish and Italian leagues when a toe,nose,hand was millimetres offside as they have been using it since the beginning of the previous season, i lay the blame entirely at FIFA's door as IFAB created the new handball rules and FIFA implemented VAR policy to be followed by the national associations,you just knew when football came to use new technology they would make a complete and utter mess of it unlike cricket,Rugby and the NFL
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They seem to go out of their way to rule out goals. Every effort is made to somehow show any part of the body is offisde from one angle or another if you use the most helpful freeze frame image. The freeze-frame/lines are so inaccurate and so open to manipulation/interpretation that its almost could be a system custom designed to be inaccurate. Anyone with an ounce of technical ability could make these images show any decision to be correct, on top of that the process is entirely opaque so it can't be challenged by anyone outside of EPL's Comedy Bunker.
Football is not and never will be a suitable game for VAR, it should have never gone beyond GLT. I remember in the 1990's having a discussion at work about GLT and I said even if it worked perfectly I would be against it for one reason, it would open Pandora's box for the use of technology in football, and here we are. But even I never imagined anything as horrific as this, quite apart from the utter disaster it has been with regard to decisions it has ruined football as a spectacle, the spontaneity of a goal has been completely lost while some minions in a bunker spend 5 minutes trying to work out that someones 5 o'clock shadow was offside or not. It ruins the flow of games and so much time is lost and never added on. FIFA have been slowly poisoning the game for years, and the game now lies at death's door. What can save it? |
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Firstly the game lost it's soul with ridiculous wages & now its looks like losing it's sanity with VAR.
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30cm sounds about right for potential difference between attacker and defender running in opposite directions if you take two consecutive frames (assuming there are 50 frames per second). Back of a **** packet - two players in different directions running at 8m/s (not usain bolt speed) = 16m apart per second or 32cm between frames. I reckon there are likely to be many examples (when there is not a good side-on view) where there are more than 2 frames to choose from where it could appear that the ball is being played.
A VAR operator knows that choosing the early frame makes it onside and choosing the later frame makes it offside. What a lovely choice to have, especially when nobody is any the wiser since there is always a frame on your side. |
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FIFA believe everything is black or white onside or offside and there are no grey areas,absolutely crazy not to build in any margin of error like cricket has done or to stick with the principle of a clear and obvious error,Amateurs running the worldwide game but as long as they keep raking in the cash at Zurich towers why should they care.
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Isn't it great football without VAR spoiling it,instant decisions no fannying around,crowd spontaneity of a true goal without the after thought of it being stolen from you .
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not a great fan of european internationals because there are too many games that are mismatches etc but it does make you realise how much better football is without VAR, no endless stoppages and knowing a goal stands straight away, they need to just get rid of it completely and accept mistakes will be made but its a price worth paying
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It's not infested the SA leagues I enjoy - yet. No doubt that won't last forever, and football will be ruined there too. I'm making the most of it.
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It's not infested the SA leagues I enjoy - yet. No doubt that won't last forever, and football will be ruined there too. I'm making the most of it.
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var not spotting handball on southampton equaliser
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The Spurs one as far as I know wasn't even reviewed and over looked on MOD.
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So the Leicester winner today was fine but the similar one that was ruled offside before the international break wasn't ?
Inaucho looked almost off there, but they he wasn't passed the made up line they create It really does make the mind boggle |
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Alan Brazil whining on Talksport this morning, about the late Leicester VAR goal.. Saying he'd rather have some human error!
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I'd sooner have the human error emitdeb
That was so close it should have stayed with on field call |
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Honestly cant get my head around that point of view...
If its a legal goal, let it stand.. Why rule out a good goal?  |
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Because VAR ruled out one before the international break under very similar circumstances
Its basically good one minute bad the next |
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bet preston wish there was var
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was just about to say the same
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really poor decision there , never a pen
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VAR still has human error just with 4 minute delays, chaos and a lack of passion in the game.
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VAR probably would have given it as well
If they want a pen they are giving a pen its that simple Conning ref angle or conning VAR angle (after 5 minutes analysing every angle) ? I'd sooner the ref gets the blame and we move on |
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VAR would have realised in seconds yesterday that the ref had been conned. Lets see if the EFL have any balls to ban the cheat & WBA to fine him as well. They'll keep getting away with it unless action is taken.
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no action taken against WBA player ,so a clear message to all players .....carry on cheating and trying to con the referee ,it might work ,you might get a penalty ,or an opposing player sent off ,so make a meal out of every challenge ....fall down clutching a part of your body that hasnt been touched ,oh and dont forget to scream !!!
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if dele allis goal was disallowed there i would give up watching football.
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Clear penalty by VVD against Everton, also a mandatory red card as no attempt to play the ball. Clear as day on the video
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VAR stands for Victory Anfield Reds
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cant help thinking VAR looks at things more closely when play has stopped, everyone is looking at what happened and they have more of a pressure to act, when play goes on incidents seem to get swept under the carpet more easily as on the ongoing play is a distraction, this could be leading to more player simulation, ie staying on the ground forcing play to stop
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is that the end of var ?
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Why's that?play to the whistle.
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aye leazes might have jumped gun, its a grey one for me .
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I would hate it against my team.
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