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Hi Capt
I have been trying to get a Black is back t-shirt for ages. They use to sell them on Oxford Street but I guess a long time ago. Can’t even find them on Amazon. 00 ![]() |
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Cheating time wasting play acting
Rancid club they have become Even more than cheating French **** back in early 2000s |
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Good result for them
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Wolves were never scoring tonight and I backed them
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Discipline again. Though three points despite John Moss being on the whistle must be a positive. He tried his best though.
Seems like going down to 10 makes us grind results out, but it really isn’t pretty. |
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Wolves aren’t the team you have faith in vs 10 though fink
They move the ball to slowly and it’s easy to defend against |
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Fink, Michael Oliver was the ref.
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My bad….At least it wasn’t Craig Pawson, my own personal bete noir.
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Another ref mightn't have sent Martinelli off but both were cynical and yellow cards. He could have stopped it after the first one and booked him though as it may have resulted in a foul throw. A little unlucky but a lot more stupid. No complaints. Don't get why Arteta is talking about VAR when it was two yellows and VAR wasn't involved?
A good result and defensive performance but Wolves aren't that hard to defend against. Another set piece goal from a CH and a worrying lack of potency up front and inability or lack of any intention as a team to hold onto the ball when under pressure. Doesn't bode well for top 4 aspirations. Doubt it would have been much different in the last 20 if we had 11. Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs games all to be rescheduled. |
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Some pundits are not very bright imo...............
Ex-Republic of Ireland striker Morrison was the co-commentator for BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra: "I've never seen it before where you get booked twice in the space of five seconds. Arsenal do have a case [to be angry]." Er, why?? never mind Keown will be along to explain in a minute Former Gunners defender Martin Keown on BT Sport thought it was unfair on Martinelli as he did not know he was going to be booked for the first foul. ![]() ![]() He said: "It's within the laws of the game but I thought it was pedantic from the referee. "There's a moral issue with what the referee has done. It doesn't feel sporting."...Bl00dy sight more sporting than committing two yellow card worth fouls in thirty seconds. He thought Oliver should have stopped play after the first foul, although fellow pundit Joleon Lescott pointed out the referee did not know the Brazilian was going to commit another foul before he got a chance to book him. Correct - Ref played the advantage, simples ![]() |
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I've never seen it before - that's because it's extremely rare that a player gets a chance to commit the second foul before being booked for the first one. They were both stupid. He had gained massive ground on the player for he second one and if he'd kept going he would have been goal side. The player wasn't about to pass or cross the ball either but he just barged into the back of him.
A lot of Arsenal fans bleating like children that the refs are against us. I can't think of one red we've got this season that we can complain about. In nearly all cases there has been a high level of stupidity from our players and we can and should be complaining about that. There have been a few where opposition teams should have got one but didn't, that's about it. Gabriel damaging the penalty spot, Xhaka and Partey against Liverpool in the LC, Xhaka two footed against City, Martinelli last night. That's all of them this season. Criticising the ref and not the player for any of them is not being a fan it's being an idiot like the player. |
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Blimey. At this rate we’ll finish fourth without having to play another game (assuming West Ham get deducted points for the cat torturer and Man U for Greenwood). Makes you realise how much of a muchness it is outside the top 3.
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Best league in the world my arse.
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All results possible tonight, but low scoring I suspect. Think market over estimates our chances. Wolves are a canny side. Tight game in prospect.
Making my way there now. Hope atmosphere is the same as recent games and the crowd in the stadium are behind the team, ignoring the social media pundits who never go…. |
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Great atmosphere last night. Good win against a very organised and determined side. Think 4th is achievable, but it will be touch and go.
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Tbf, we shouldn't be anywhere near 4th in the so-called "best league in the world".
Can you think of a worst Arsenal side than this in the last 35 years? |
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I can't think of one. It's as much to do with the quality of the other sides going for 4th tho. Wolves are still in contention despite losing to us twice and only scoring 24 goals in 25 games!
We are very consistent against teams below us in the table, which we nearly always were under Wenger and last season too. Don't think our highest level has improved very much tho, we'd still get KO'd from the Europa before the SFs imo. Can't seem to win any game comfortably. Arteta will get more time now regardless. He has never signed a striker, so that is the next test. More goals are needed to move to the next level. Still think he might sign Laca on a bumper contract but he'll have to give him Willian wages as he's already on about 180k a week. He has got rid of every player on those wages, so perhaps not. It would be a big mistake, better to spend on youth. Spirited performance last night but severe lack of quality until Pepe changed the game. Hopefully he gets more of a look-in as I think we'll need him given the lack of quality up front. Wolves should have gone for a second but got what they deserved in the end. |
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Unusually I was feeling optimistic about our chances tomorrow. However, have just seen it’s our old friend Craig Pawson on the whistle. A lay for me now.
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Great going forward. Best for a long time. Poor at the back.
Final CL spot will be touch and go. Spurs have a much easier run in than us and our ‘games in hand’ are, on paper, our most difficult ones remaining. Still, makes a change from the ‘Arteta out’ narrative. |
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4th place by default quite possible.
Not a fan of Arteta but what do I know about football and what goes on at a club. He is fortunate to have a fine set of youngsters and the future is looking brighter than at the start of the season. He has or is cutting the wage bill and the summer will be interesting. What top strikers would want to come to Arsenal though? On the plus side are good wages, promising young team, London and perhaps Champions League Football. The spine is still not good enough. |
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Another great atmosphere inside the ground yesterday. Good performance, though Leicester were understrength.
Huge test on Wednesday against a top, top side. Will be a more accurate measure of where we actually are. ‘Pool odds on which is fair. Hope we can put in a performance regardless of the result. If we get rinsed, it could be a big blow to this group of young players. |
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I think we should give more credit to Arteta. First time a manager and stood firm to get rid of the toxic players in the squad. A nice young squad that will only improve. Yes he inherited Saka, Gabriel, ESR, Tierney & Martinelli but also brought in Odegaard, Ramsdale, White, Gabriel, Tomiyasu & Tavares. Credit where credit is due. Yes, you could argue we are lucky not to be in Europe with a light squad - LEts see what happens in the summer if we make top 4. I'll be there Wednesday.
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See how we do against Liverpool. Nothing else is really a barometer as we were beating the other teams consistently in the second half of last season. We showed a lot of improvement against City the last time tho and that was encouraging.
Man U Leicester and Spurs are all having mare seasons, so no surprise to see us closer to 4th after a lot of spending and no midweek football. Overall, I don't see much improvement yet. Pretty toothless in attack most of the time despite the players we have up top and still very reliant on set-piece goals. |
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Fact your not had European games to worry about or any cup games
You’ve beaten what’s around you are in driving seat in mini league For 4th 5th 6th 7th Other teams had mares but are still about Fact you had poor start your be miles clear up with Chelsea Liverpool game surly free hit with games you have in hand |
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makes a change from the ‘Arteta out’ narrative.
I did an Arteta Out thread myself, but I don't think he should go now. I like the decisions he has made in the last few months, prioritizing players who should be reaching the peak in 2/3 years and building around them, not looking to give huge contracts to talented older players that have not brought much success. I don't think Top 4 is that big of a deal really at this point. Of course it does no harm, but getting too excited about it could perhaps bring back the '4th Placed Trophy' mentality, which is what brought Arsenal to their relative low ebb of the last 5 years. Arsenal being in the Champion's League between 1998 up to around 2010 was exciting, as there was always the possibility they could go all the way, although they never really fulfilled their potential. But the last 6 or 7 years in the competition under Wenger was not enjoyable at all; tedious group phase, then a hiding in the L16, then a 2 month battle to secure 4th and repeat the whole process again. Every summer there would players in or around the starting eleven that would be coming near the end of contract, that were clearly not good enough to compete with the best teams, who would be given new 4 year deals, because these players were good enough for 4th, and 4th was the ultimate prize. Saka and Smith-Rowe may be excited about getting 4th this season, but - assuming they fulfill their potential - when they are 23/24 they will not be excited about 4th place/Last 16, because they will look around at Foden/Grealish/TAA and see them every April challenging for titles and CL Semis and wonder why they can't be doing that. If the likes of Xhaka are still around in 2024/25 because 'we got Top 4 with him' then it will be clear to Saka and Smith Rowe that 4th is the ceiling of the club and they will be looking elsewhere. |
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Some good points Tobermory. It will be galling to lose some of our good young players if the chances of winning silverware is demonstrably better elsewhere. Already rumblings about Saka and I’m guessing a few will now be sniffing around Martinelli too. Important to keep this group together and add to them if we want to make progress.
A committed performance last night and great support. Beaten by an elite team that were just as committed but were clinical in taking their chances. Game probably turned on the Odegaard chance. I’m far from convinced that we’ll actually finish 4th this season. The games in hand are against Chelsea and Spurs, so we could end up with no points from those. Added to that, Spurs have a dream run in with the exception of having to go to Anfield. |
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When you look at the Brighton and Brentford model, which is really good based on a good business model, are clubs like Arsenal, West Ham going to become an upmarket version of these, but going to have to play second fiddle to the sheikhs money teams?
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Arsenal are not at the same level as Brentford, Brighton, West Ham. They are more on the level of Liverpool in terms of support base domestically and globally. Liverpool have bridged the gap thru getting the right manager and being savvy in the transfer market in both sales and purchases. Arsenal are a long way away from all that still but that's what they should strive for. Wouldn't be at all confident of that happening under the current owners tho and not even sure that's on their radar but it should be as the revenues grow more with success than anything else, which is why Liverpool have overtaken Arsenal in terms of revenues by some distance.
Another good and encouraging performance against a top side so more progress for me. Still not got the cutting edge in the final third tho and still no better than a europa league KO stage level side. We should be better in terms of ideas and movement in the final third with the players we have in attack tho. Some really poor decision making once we get near the box and players still rather rigid and predictable in terms of their positions. Arteta will sign a striker in the summer and hopefully a replacement for Xhaka too and let's see if that side of things improves. |
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Even money for Arsenal Top 4 is utterly ridiculous. A great lay.
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Big problems at FB and in midfield now. Xhaka would prob move to LB but now Partey is injured too. Vieira targeted our full-backs last night and we couldn't play out. Completely devoid of ideas in attack and toothless in the middle up top, with two championship level 9s to pick from.
Meanwhile 'finished' Auba has 7 in 6 starts for Barca cos Xavi is playing him as a box 9 and tells him just to make runs across the goal in between the posts and the others will find him. Who'd have thunk it? |
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Arsenal weren't going to move forward with Aubemayang, though he is better than what they have there now.
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They were never going to move forward with Auba in a false 9 system, yes, but best to change the system to suit him, given the likes of Saka, ESR and Martinelli who could be coached to create chances for him.
Best not to give him a new contract on 350k a week if you are not going to play him in a system like that. Assurances were likely given to him to get him to sign too, as he was almost immediately unhappy and could have gone to Barca on a free instead. Not saying Auba would make a difference now. He wouldn't. He would still look like the visibly depressed version he was when he played under this manager. |
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Odegaard has 3 assists, 2 against Norwich away and 1 against Leeds. Laca, 4 goals, 2 of them penalties. Hasn't scored from open play in 10 games. Doesn't appear to be much coaching of attacking players still. In a false 9 system, wide attackers are supposed to make runs into the central space the 9 vacates. Everyone just seems very rigid, you don't see midfielders making runs into the box either.
It's a big problem that's been there since the start and I don't think signing a top striker is going to solve it on its own. Re top 4, as the defence is weaker now (and the midfield) it is not looking good. But top 5 might be enough because Russia's 2 places and maybe Ukraine's might be redistributed. |
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Time to ditch Pep's cone man methinks.
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Looks like the season will end like the Emery one in 2019.
A 'certain' Top 4 place lost on the run in. |
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Looks like the season will go out with a whimper, for sure. I posted on 17 March that Spurs were more likely to achieve 4th than us given the respective run ins when we were trading at 1.6.
Where to from here? If we get 5th or 6th they will argue that progress has been made, despite a squad lacking quality. A more ruthless board would probably show Arteta the door, but I can’t see that happening. Needs a Summer of investment to move forward again, midfield and striker being absolute priorities. Shame if we don’t take advantage of this opportunity. Can’t see United in particular being as poor again next season. |
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I think it should be clear by now that Pep's former cone man is not the answer.
Every time there's any kind of test, we crumble. Other than a covid affected FA Cup win, what's he achieved? |
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Clowns will back him again in the summer. They need to develop a ruthless streak but not just at the end of the season. The likes of Tuchel and Conte were available mid-season, need to fire the manager and get someone like that if and when available. But there are no alternatives left really and the fans seem happy generally so no need for them to change.
Squad depth is as bad as ever and attack weaker than ever. The way the manager plays in the final third is the real tell, zero improvement in 3 years and little desire for a 2 goal lead. Selling Guendouzi on an £8m option looks like a real f up too. Could have had some real quality in the team and great cover too if the manager could man-manage better. |
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Some points well made lurka. Though Conte and Tuchel demand top dollar and we have no track record of paying those sort of managerial wages. There was so much dead wood at the club (still is) and clearing it out takes time. Like you, I feel the way they have left the midfield looks particularly negligent. Maitland Niles or Guendouzi could surely have done a job if retained. Unfortunately Arteta is a very young manager and doesn’t seem able to compromise when it comes to man management. He does appear to be backed to the hilt by the board which I think has led to fewer outright protests.
Despite the two recent losses, the general view of the fans that go (rather than the more voluble armchair section) is generally supportive. I was there Saturday. There was booing, but by no means as toxic as in previous seasons. |