keep reading how 5th is an over achievement

can someone kindly run me through why we sacked emery again ?

The quickest way out I can see is that Arteta has another poor start and Vieira continues to impress at Palace.

Unfortunately I think you are right ghostly.

Ferguson & Wenger both left clubs in disarray. Somehow Ferguson conjured up one final league title and Wenger conjured up an FA Cup team, both with very average teams. Emery inherited a bad situation and if he had been given the support Arteta has got, we might be in a much better situation. Arteta is a problem, he seems to have player support but lacks composure under pressure and tactically during a match is hopeless. Arsenal look ok when things are going well as soon as there is a setback, it's total collapse. Arsenal on a very slippery slope atm and gathering pace.

In Emery's case there was a very bad capitulation at the end of his 1st season. Dropping 11 out of 15 points to finish a point off 4th and then getting trounced in the EL final left a bad taste in the mouth for a lot of fans, even though he'd prob overachieved until then. All his other successful teams seem to be built on hard graft. Our players had the same attitude as PSG players to him in the end, which is laughable.

Really want to see Xhaka gone ASAP after that interview the other night. In some ways it was worse than throwing away the armband for me.

id argue this is just as bad a top 4 capitulation as emerys

if you look at the table this season after 26 games especially

plus emery had idiots like xhaka giving stupid pens away and mustafi letting zaha walk past him , and these weren't his players

arteta has had ample time to reshape this current team

Should never have started with Holding against Spurs with White on the bench.
Starting with Tavares when you have to get a result isn't clever either, he's an accident waiting to happen.

Everyone can see this apart from Arteta. Maybe he should take a seat in the stands and see what's really happening on the pitch.

As for extending his contract before he's achieved anything beggars belief.

He could be in for a rough ride at weekend. He's got it coming.

ive nothing against arteta personally but i just think he is totally out of his depth

he has a lot of wenger traits as well,  in that he seems very stubborn and will not change his style despite what stares him in the face.

add to that a completely inexperienced director of football in edu who seems to have his pants pulled down over transfers and negotiations (brighton apparently laughed at the ben white fee, we actually paid auba to leave in jan etc), and a board that only cares about money, and we are royally ****

i see we are pushing the new kit on social media today and wearing it on sunday , so that bandwagon rolls on while we stink the place out on field,

this just proves they dont actually give a **** and that any form of success is secondary

Don't think Everton will need a result against us.

I fear Tomiyasu is injury prone too. Seems to be dogged by muscle injuries.

You are not getting rid of Partey on 200k a week because no one else will pay him that and he'll run down his contract rather than leave for a pay cut (unless you want to pay him a lump to leave like Auba, Ozil etc). Cedric signed on a free on 75k a week with 2 years left, almost 31. Not getting rid for the same reason. Already talk of trying to offload Pepe (apparently not part of his plans - not very smart to leak that if true) for £30m. He's on 140k a week so prob have to pay him a chunk of any fee too.

Where is all the money coming for all of this with no CL football? We will be reliant on the owners to inject (ie loan) again this year. We'll have to spend the bulk of the budget on a striker. He will prob end up offering Nektiah a new contract as a back-up.

We are doomed with this manager and his ability to banish and trash the values of talented players and waste money on inferior replacements. For starters he should be getting Saliba and AMN back but there's a good chance he won't. They can provide cover at least at RB, CB and CM. Instead he's given Holding a new contract and is going to offer Elneny one too.

Fack me

News just in my prayer was answered.


Jesus in

I like Jesus

Well done if sealed deal

Wenger out brigade ffs

Will people still be trotting out that carp in 20 years?

Looking for another BEAST in Midfield... Be careful what it says on the tin... 

Jesus is looking like an absolute bargain, world class goal today and could be the difference between Champions League football or not, even Xhaka looked good. There's less pressure of Saka this year as well with goals coming from other areas including Martinelli who for my money, should be one of the first names of the Brazil team sheet. I had us as 4th in my preview thread pre-season but if Chelsea end the transfer window without a recognised striker then 3rd is up for grabs considering United, who I had down a 6th, would be lucky to be top 10 at this rate. Champions League football is crucial going forward if we're to attract even better players. Bournemouth (a), Fulham (h), Villa (h), Man United (a), Everton (h), Brentford (a), Tottenham (h) are the next few games, should still be in the top 3 after that run.

Great atmosphere yesterday. Feels like we are at last making progress.

Agree with the comments about central midfield. Definitely need one more addition imo.

It’s still a very young side and I expect some bumps in the road. The goals we conceded were disappointing but they were down to individual errors rather than poor defending collectively.

One year on ………

Team looks on another level, especially in attack. Zinchenko and Jesus are both winners and leaders who would understand how Arteta wants to play better than most of our players and look like perfect signings both in terms of fit and in what we were lacking in the dressing room. Saliba is a great addition too and he and Zinchenko mean we have good cover in midfield and RB and LB now too. Xhaka is also moving left and changing places with Zinchenko when we have the ball a lot of the time which can only be good too.

Watched all of the Amazon doc and would have a more positive view of Arteta afterwards. Was surprised to see him tell the team to attack and get the second at HT against Everton last season as the players did the opposite and didn't show any appetite for a second until they equalised. Perhaps the tendency of falling back on a lead was more down to the players than him but it doesn't seem to be happening so far this season. Early days tho and with a nice run of fixtures and it will still be tough to get top 4. Credit to Arteta and Edu on what looks a pretty amazing window. Would never have expected one as good.

Genuinely positive and optimistic about the team and performances for the first time since Arteta joined. Generally done quite well against the level of teams we've played so far in previous years but the performances are far more dominant and comfortable.

Only 3 from yesterday's squad were in Arteta' s squad for the his 1st game back in Dec 2019 also against Bournemouth: Saka, Xhaka & Smith Rowe.

All the others haven't exactly done much elsewhere.

Shows how important it is to give managers time to weed out the deadwood & get their own players in.

I’d like to know what his plans are when Tierney is fully fit. Does Zinc come into midfield?

He is still the manager who did not accept £30 Million from Hertha Berlin for Xhaka. Did not buy Upecamano when he could for nix, then £45 million, then he bought Ben White FOR £50 Million. We had reason to doubt him and then he was trying to play out from goal kicks with people who could not be trusted to close a farmyard gate.

But....fair play. You have to trust a manager and give him time. The Arsenal owners did, most of the fans did not. As stated mea culpa!

2 winners in the team this season is huge but I am not sure I would want to be in the trenches with some of the rest. Yes very good footballers but you have to hate losing and do whatever it takes and not accept a beating. Palace tried to kick them but they held firm so lets hope they toughen up and follow the lead of the new guys.

This is the time to invest again if the right players come up. The World Cup may also throw up possibilities before and after

I thought Partey would be a great signing and have been extremely disappointed. Hopefully with the likes of Zinc holding the ball so well he will start to exert some influence too and play better.

I am not sure who he needs to buy Spread or who is available. Would like to see some more of ESR. Whatever has happened Arteta seems to have got a good base to build on now. Lets hope he can. Arsenal are well placed.

I really would like some of these Arsenal players to take a course in The Dark Arts. Maybe even watch the Leeds v Chelsea 1970 FA Cup Final. Professional football is extremely tough. Fouling is de rigueur and intimidation. Some of these kids need to toughen up.

good win tonight, this is the sort of game in years gone by we would have inexplicably lost, big test on the weekend against a rejuvenated United, unless they lose to Leicester, I predicted pre season we'd finish 4th with T*ttenham 5th, looking at Chelsea thus far, 3rd is definitely up for grabs, regardless of opponents, it's the most cohesive I've seen us for many a season, hope Zinchenko is back in time.