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By:
themover
When: 06 Sep 14 23:17
that's to stop the windows being bricked Laugh
By:
acquiesce12
When: 06 Sep 14 23:37
You have a once in a lifetime opportunity to gain independence and become a prosperous, self-sufficient country, like Norway, TAKE IT, and take Andy Murray with youLaugh
By:
john92
When: 06 Sep 14 23:56
I vowed to ignore Akabula but can't resist another pop after reading though this thread.

He claimed scalding hot tea was thrown at Jim Murphy which didn't happen.

He claimed 'your mob' threw eggs at Murphy when it was one idiot. One person does not equal a mob.

He mentions bricks being thrown through windows when no google search I conducted found any evidence.

He condemns political violence yet said he hoped a suspected broken jaw from a political attack would 'shut Galloway up for a while.'

He claims those in favour of the union are fearful of admitting so publicly.... the same day 11 former Scotland internationals were on the front page of the Daily Record supporting the union.


There are utter cretins on both sides. One threw an egg at Jim Murphy. One threw an egg at Jim Sillars. I am convinced that akabula is one of those cretins.
By:
Alias
When: 07 Sep 14 00:20
You've got me cogitating, john.

Meanwhile:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/06/scots-radical-new-deal-save-the-union

To paraphrase Apocalypse Now

How I love the sound of bottles crashing in the morning.
By:
Kriskin
When: 07 Sep 14 00:35
hearts - why can u see NO reason to vote YES?
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 07 Sep 14 00:48
I'm still looking for a good one as well.
By:
akabula
When: 07 Sep 14 01:01
There are utter cretins on both sides. One threw an egg at Jim Murphy. One threw an egg at Jim Sillars. I am convinced that akabula is one of those cretins.

So typical of the yes campaigners they can't debate without insulting people.
Throwing insults on here and bricks and eggs in the real world. Sad
By:
hearts1874
When: 07 Sep 14 01:06
My main reason is the sector I work in , would be a worry for me if it went to a yes vote, nothing more than that and a doubt or two about currency and interest rates , I'm sticking with no for my main reason, just can't be having it IMO , will be close though I reckon
By:
hearts1874
When: 07 Sep 14 01:09
Also should add I'm 28 and never voted but I will be this time. I'm not a yes basher either , it's people's choice to vote for what they believe in, at the same time though the yes AND no vote stickers in people's house windows/cars are doing my head in haha.
By:
CJ70
When: 07 Sep 14 01:18

Sep 7, 2014 -- 1:06AM, hearts1874 wrote:


My main reason is the sector I work in , would be a worry for me if it went to a yes vote, nothing more than that and a doubt or two about currency and interest rates , I'm sticking with no for my main reason, just can't be having it IMO , will be close though I reckon


You can't say you work and pretend to be Scottish at the same time ;)

By:
themightymac
When: 07 Sep 14 01:22
Shocked
By:
Geesyerdosh
When: 07 Sep 14 01:26
There was every chance this was going to happen, our patriotism kicking in the nearer the time to vote came.

This is an unstoppable train, the YES campaign has simply run all over the NO one. The YES is everywhere the NO is nowhere to be seen. And the more London sends up politicians with sweeteners and scare tactics the more they will be rebuffed.

Its a 1.01 train to Independence make no mistake.
By:
Kriskin
When: 07 Sep 14 01:39
It's a no brainer for me to vote YES.  I work in the financial field and cannot see how my job would be less secure if Scotland go alone.  The country will prosper in the long term.  We then can vote in our own government and not be contolled by London.  We can control our boder better as well and only let people in who will be beneficial to the future of Scotland just like the Australians do.
By:
CJ70
When: 07 Sep 14 01:40
Come on. Postal votes went out last month, it's already over.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 07 Sep 14 01:40
you backed a winner this year Geesyerdosh Laugh

second in a two horse race Love
By:
Geesyerdosh
When: 07 Sep 14 01:43
I do nothing but back winners Grin
By:
Kriskin
When: 07 Sep 14 01:46
CJ - POSTAL VOTES only about 3% of overall total.  Too early to consider them votes.  NO is still strong fav.

Maybe Sevco could prosper with independence as they're certainly not prospering until the London Government.  HMRC won't leave them alone.

LaughLaugh
By:
hearts1874
When: 07 Sep 14 02:22
If it goes to a yes vote I'm heading to England Laugh
By:
themightymac
When: 07 Sep 14 02:34
That`s made up the minds of Thousands of "don`t knows" LaughLaugh
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Sep 14 05:11
quote:"Kriskin 07 Sep 14 01:39 
It's a no brainer for me to vote YES.  I work in the financial field and cannot see how my job would be less secure if Scotland go alone.  The country will prosper in the long term.  We then can vote in our own government and not be contolled by London."
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^^^
WOW. Was reading this crap before going to bed and this particular piece of rubbish got me.
"I work in the financial field and cannot see how my job would be less secure if Scotland go alone."

You do realise that financial companies in Scotland today have the backing of a large central bank, and virtually 90% of their customers are in the same country? 90% RIGHT NOW?
Independence will mean no financial backing and 90% of their customers are THEN in a foreign country?
You do realise that's why EVERY ****ING ANALYIST AND NEWSPAPER IN THE WORLD SAYS IT WILL BE BAD, FOR GOOD REASON? And why Finance jobs very much ARE at risk. Anyone who knows anything about the subject knows this!! It's so obvious!

Either
1. You are a liar and don't work in the financial sector or
2. You DO but are at the best level, a call centre operator.

You certainly aren't CEO of Scottish Widows, that's for sure, not a clue.

Answer me this. Your name is John Smith and your interest, like 90% of their customers, is say a pension is with Scottish Pensions Co and you know in 18 mths it will become a separate country run by left wing idiots in a monopoly currency, with no central backing. You can transer, free of charge, to English Pensions Co now and be safe, or wait and see what happens, with your life savings, for no possible gain, no gain, all risk. What do you do? The credit flight from Scottish finance will be spectacular.

"I work in the financial field". Do you collect 2 pences at a funfair tilt machine?
By:
brendanuk1
When: 07 Sep 14 08:14
in 18 mths it will become a separate country run by left wing idiots in a monopoly currency,

WALOFS, persuade by argument if you want, thats just name calling sh!te as the rest of the rant
By:
Alias
When: 07 Sep 14 09:03
Your name is John Smith and your interest, like 90% of their customers, is say a pension is with Scottish Pensions Co and you know in 18 mths it will become a separate country run by left wing idiots in a monopoly currency, with no central backing.


As opposed to being run by right wing, Eton (OR Fettes) educated, silver spoon in gob warmongers? I know what I'd prefer, idiots or not. Your reference to "left wing" says so much (as always) about your total lack of understanding of the politics of Scotland.

Meanwhile, speaking of finance, the prospect of independence doesn't seem to be troubling the property market one little bit.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/property-prices-rise-at-fastest-pace-for-four-years.25025063
By:
Alias
When: 07 Sep 14 09:04
at the same time though the yes AND no vote stickers in people's house windows/cars are doing my head in haha.

hearts, I live on the west side of Auld Reekie and have yet to see one single No sticker in any window.
By:
Platini
When: 07 Sep 14 10:20
I live in Edinburgh also and it's all Yes stickers and that includes the posh streets. This is going to be very very close.
By:
CJ70
When: 07 Sep 14 10:38

Sep 7, 2014 -- 1:46AM, Kriskin wrote:


CJ - POSTAL VOTES only about 3% of overall total.  Too early to consider them votes.  NO is still strong fav. Maybe Sevco could prosper with independence as they're certainly not prospering until the London Government.  HMRC won't leave them alone.


They said that in Tower Hamlets..

By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Sep 14 11:07
Oh dear god grow up alias. As expected after I call out what was complete rubbish re the dangers to the Scottish finance industry and the CLEAR and OBVIOUS dangers to it having 90% of its market suddenly become people in a foreign country, I didn't get a single refutation of the facts, as it's just common sense and simply irrefutable. No adult argument against it, and for the 10,000 time Alias diverts and starts banging on about Eton and Posh (read "English") folk again. Do any of the Yes supporters have any idea how many Finance jobs there are in Scotland and how much it gives to its economy (pre a yes induced crash)? Thought not.

There is no intellectual or economic case at all for the separatists, it's basically left wingers and english haters absolutely screwing an economy and country to stick the middle finger up at posh (English) folk.
By:
Alias
When: 07 Sep 14 11:31
REFUTATION? Your economic "experts", who are they JC? Sir George Mathewson was CE of RBS 1987 - 2000 and is honorary vice president of Yes Scotland. He made RBS the success it was, long before the crash. He has ALWAYS been in favour of independence.

"New opportunities" for Scotland's financial sector.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-28641991


I note your use of the cheapest of shots - again -  (read "English"). Yet ANOTHER example of your redundant, bankrupt argument having failed. Note that I added FETTES to Eton, a reference to the LabourLaugh PM and so called Scot BLAIR.


Meanwhile, MORE LIES and fear tactics from the No camp:

Polish workers 'told by No activists: you would have to leave an indy Scotland'

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/polish-workers-told-by-no-activists-you-would-have-to-leave-an-indy-scotlan.25260906?utm_source=headlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email%2Balert


And the ENGLISH?

English Yes campaigners: independence means we escape Westminster ... not our friends in the south

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/english-yes-campaigners-independence-means-we-escape-westminster-not-our-friends-in-t.25252636?utm_source=headlines&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email%2Balert
By:
john92
When: 07 Sep 14 11:38
I have put forward a reasoned analysis why I think you are a cretin Akabula - and none of it is based on how you intend to vote. None of it.

It is based on your hypocritical, unsubstantiated claims which you constantly fail to back up.

I don't just welcome reasoned debate put forward by no campaigners; I want it. I want my views to be challenged. I want stats and info that I haven't seen. I want to hear things from a different perspective. I want to leave the polling station certain that I have done the right thing.

Typing BETTER TOGETHER and claims of violence with no evidence don't cut it. That is not a debate.
By:
high_lander
When: 07 Sep 14 11:40
breadnbutter

I've been quiet? It took you 8 hours to make that comeback Laugh

You do realise there's a time limit on these things, right?

I could have wrote a novel in the time it took you to think up your riposte Laugh

I'm going to call you "The Tortoise" from now on.
By:
charwell.
When: 07 Sep 14 11:41
Not a cat in hells chance the jocks are mad enough to vote yes. Come the crunch they will know where their bread is buttered. 1.46 is an absolute gift on no.

Pollsters come out, Rab C Nesbitt gives it the 'big un' about independence. Ballot card comes through his door, mass panic ensues and 'no' selected.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 07 Sep 14 11:42
classic artist taxi driver

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsxJyV35xps
By:
1alph1
When: 07 Sep 14 11:57
Agreed Charwell. I believe it will be No vote and hope to make some money on this.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 07 Sep 14 12:07
them yes voters are tighter than two coats of paint ,in front in the polls but wont take the 9/4

think they want e/w terms tbh
By:
liam1982
When: 07 Sep 14 12:21
i think the yes guys are just a bit more militant about it and are making a lot more noise, it's usually the case with left wing people.

im  not even scottish so im not bothered either way but its gonna be a no vote guaranteed, ill be hoovering up some of the 1/2 over the next few weeeks
By:
Alias
When: 07 Sep 14 12:29
them yes voters are tighter than two coats of paint ,in front in the polls but wont take the 9/4


ROFL! I laid the 1.16 and 1.17 for NO weeks ago. Thanks a bunch chaps!
By:
high_lander
When: 07 Sep 14 12:34
The No campaign has been incredibly negative. All you hear from them is fear-mongering. They have nothing in the way of reasonable debate at all.

Their campaign seems to consist of a never ending fear mantra, which mainly consists of "You cant have Sterling" which is ridiculous because they cant stop us having Sterling. It's entirely up to us. Bottom line...England cant stop us having Sterling.

We could have the US dollar if we want. No one can stop us having the currency we want.

They keep telling us what we cant do. The English think that we Scots are incapable of running our own country. They think we will fail.

The truth is Scotland will be an incredibly rich small country that will prosper under Independence. If we shake off England, we can rule our own country. We can make decisions that benefit Scotland. At the moment the British government make decisions that benefit England and specifically London and the South of England.

This is our chance to break free from English oppression. We can finally be free of them if we vote YES.

Vote YES for a prosperous future for Scotland.
By:
Platini
When: 07 Sep 14 12:36
I wouldn't be hoovering anything just yet. The price is still moving, only in one direction.
By:
Kriskin
When: 07 Sep 14 12:42
Just Checking - I know more about the Financial Sector than u think. I work in the Investment side of things.  90% of my customers already live in so called Foreign countries. Nothing changes in that aspect. The lies you have mentioned previous is NOT worth responding to. 

The NO campaign are definitely panicking as Osborne is now trying to rush through some more power for the Hollyrood parliament.
By:
mactheknife
When: 07 Sep 14 12:44
Yes for me, we have been governed by Westminster for far too long, as a labour politician stated recently on the STV referendum debate there are more Panda`s in Edinburgh Zoo that Tory politicians in Scotland.
If the English want to be under Tory rule let them have it.
Its time to govern ourselves,
By:
BARNEY21.
When: 07 Sep 14 12:54
It is time for us to change the whole political landscape the peoples of these islands have been led by donkeys for far too long,led by an elite in the main public schoolboy dominated governments that are shielded by the realities of life knowing nothing or careing less for the ordinary folks,Scotland can show the way for the rest of these islands and clear them out,they are perverted/corrupt/sceptic the lot of them,I celand showed the way by jailing those responsible for their financial collapse and refusing to bow to the IMF/Bank of England/European Central Bank,the tossed out the politicians left/right electing prominent/proven in their sphere people to run their country they are up and running.Saorse Alba
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