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By:
themover
When: 22 Jun 14 19:43
Roy Hodgson says he will build a ‘better and stronger’ England

Saturday 21 June 2014 22.30 BST

It would be harder to build a "worse and shitt1ier" England

Laugh
By:
themover
When: 17 Jul 14 14:47
"England have fallen to 20th in the latest Fifa world rankings, their lowest position since May 1996."

Well done Woy! Laugh
By:
TheChaser
When: 17 Jul 14 22:35
England are, at absolute very best, the 7th or 8th most talented team in the world. The void between them and the best teams is too big to be be bridged by any coach's selection and tactics.

Too much sheery son

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By:
themover
When: 28 Aug 14 22:26
and now he's appointed Wayne Rooney as England captain

..just when it appeared things couldn't get any worse

Cry
By:
Dav_vin03
When: 28 Aug 14 22:59
how is he still england manager.
greg **** the worst english FA chairman ever?
By:
Dav_vin03
When: 28 Aug 14 22:59
DYK*
By:
kincsem
When: 28 Aug 14 23:52
Anyone know how many English players started in the first match of the Premier League in 2014?  Are the numbers still falling?
By:
kincsem
When: 29 Aug 14 00:27
^ I'm doing the analysis of the starting elevens of day 1 of the 2014 Premier League.  I'll post the nationalities later.
By:
kincsem
When: 29 Aug 14 01:36
Players who started the first match of the season

England__________________87___39.5%
France___________________20___9.1%
Spain___________________14___6.4%
Scotland_________________10___4.5%
Ireland__________________8___3.6%
Wales___________________8___3.6%
Belgium__________________7___3.2%
Argentina________________6___2.7%
Netherlands______________6___2.7%
Brazil___________________4___1.8%
Serbia___________________4___1.8%
Senegal__________________3___1.4%
Algeria__________________2___0.9%
Austria__________________2___0.9%
Bosnia and Herzegovina___2___0.9%
Congo___________________2___0.9%
Croatia__________________2___0.9%
Denmark__________________2___0.9%
Italy___________________2___0.9%
Ivory Coast______________2___0.9%
Poland___________________2___0.9%
Portugal_________________2___0.9%
Sweden___________________2___0.9%
USA___________________2___0.9%
Australia________________1___0.5%
Chile___________________1___0.5%
Egypt___________________1___0.5%
Germany__________________1___0.5%
Iceland__________________1___0.5%
Jamaica__________________1___0.5%
Japan___________________1___0.5%
Kenya___________________1___0.5%
Mexico___________________1___0.5%
Montegnegro______________1___0.5%
Morocco__________________1___0.5%
New Zealand______________1___0.5%
Nigeria__________________1___0.5%
Norway___________________1___0.5%
Slovakia_________________1___0.5%
South Africa_____________1___0.5%
South Korea______________1___0.5%
Switzerland______________1___0.5%
Togo___________________1___0.5%

All___________________220___100.0%


In 2013 I think England players were ~28% of premier League starters.

But most of the England players are in the lower ranked teams
Team___________________Players
Burnley__________________10
Queens Park Rangers______7
Manchester United________6
West Bromwich Albion_____6
Crystal Palace___________5
Hull City________________5
Liverpool________________5
Southampton______________5
Sunderland_______________5
West Ham United__________5
Aston Villa______________4
Everton__________________4
Leicester City___________4
Tottenham Hotspur________4
Arsenal__________________3
Swansea City_____________3
Chelsea__________________2
Newcastle United_________2
Manchester City__________1
Stoke City_______________1

England players__________87
By:
kincsem
When: 29 Aug 14 01:48
Players_____________Nationality______________Team

Bentaleb____________Algeria__________________Tottenham Hotspur
Mahrez______________Algeria__________________Leicester City
Coloccini___________Argentina________________Newcastle United
Demichelis _________Argentina________________Manchester City
Faurlin ____________Argentina________________Queens Park Rangers
Lamela _____________Argentina________________Tottenham Hotspur
Speroni_____________Argentina________________Crystal Palace
Ulloa ______________Argentina________________Leicester City
Jedinak_____________Australia________________Crystal Palace
Arnautovic__________Austria__________________Stoke City
Weimann ____________Austria__________________Aston Villa
Courtois____________Belgium__________________Chelsea
de Laet_____________Belgium__________________Leicester City
Hazard _____________Belgium__________________Chelsea
Kompany ____________Belgium__________________Manchester City
Lukaku______________Belgium__________________Everton
Mignolet____________Belgium__________________Liverpool
Pocognoli___________Belgium__________________West Bromwich Albion
Begovic_____________Bosnia and Herzegovina___Stoke City
Dzeko ______________Bosnia and Herzegovina___Manchester City
Coutinho ___________Brazil___________________Liverpool
Fernando ___________Brazil___________________Manchester City
Lucas ______________Brazil___________________Liverpool
Oscar ______________Brazil___________________Chelsea
Sánchez_____________Chile___________________Arsenal
Bolasie ____________Congo___________________Crystal Palace
Mulumbu_____________Congo___________________West Bromwich Albion
Jelavic ____________Croatia__________________Hull City
Lovren______________Croatia__________________Liverpool
Eriksen_____________Denmark__________________Tottenham Hotspur
Schmeichel__________Denmark__________________Leicester City
Elmohamady__________Egypt___________________Hull City

Agbonlahor _________England__________________Aston Villa
Austin______________England__________________Queens Park Rangers
Baines______________England__________________Everton
Barry ______________England__________________Everton
Barton______________England__________________Queens Park Rangers
Berahino____________England__________________West Bromwich Albion
Bertrand____________England__________________Southampton
Blackett ___________England__________________Manchester United
Brown ______________England__________________Sunderland
Bruce ______________England__________________Hull City
Brunt ______________England__________________West Bromwich Albion
Cahill______________England__________________Chelsea
Campbell ___________England__________________Crystal Palace
Cattermole__________England__________________Sunderland
Caulker_____________England__________________Queens Park Rangers
Chambers ___________England__________________Arsenal
Clyne_______________England__________________Southampton
Colback_____________England__________________Newcastle United
Cole _______________England__________________West Ham United
Cresswell___________England__________________West Ham United
Dann _______________England__________________Crystal Palace
Davies _____________England__________________Hull City
Davis  _____________England__________________Southampton
Dawson _____________England__________________West Bromwich Albion
Delph_______________England__________________Aston Villa
Dier________________England__________________Tottenham Hotspur
Downing_____________England__________________West Ham United
Drinkwater _________England__________________Leicester City
Duff________________England__________________Burnley
Dyer  ______________England__________________Swansea City
Ferdinand___________England__________________Queens Park Rangers
Forster_____________England__________________Southampton
Foster______________England__________________West Bromwich Albion
Gardner ____________England__________________West Bromwich Albion
Gerrard_____________England__________________Liverpool
Gibbs ______________England__________________Arsenal
Green_______________England__________________Queens Park Rangers
Hart________________England__________________Manchester City
Heaton______________England__________________Burnley
Henderson___________England__________________Liverpool
Huddlestone_________England__________________Hull City
Ince _______________England__________________Hull City
Ings _______________England__________________Burnley
Jagielka____________England__________________Everton
Johnson_____________England__________________Liverpool
Johnson ____________England__________________Sunderland
Jones_______________England__________________Manchester United
Jones_______________England__________________Burnley
Jutkiewicz _________England__________________Burnley
Kelly ______________England__________________Crystal Palace
Konchesky___________England__________________Leicester City
Lennon _____________England__________________Tottenham Hotspur
Lingard ____________England__________________Manchester United
Livermore___________England__________________Hull City
Marney______________England__________________Burnley
Mee_________________England__________________Burnley
Moore ______________England__________________Leicester City
Mutch_______________England__________________Queens Park Rangers
Naughton____________England__________________Tottenham Hotspur
Noble_______________England__________________West Ham United
Nolan_______________England__________________West Ham United
Nugent______________England__________________Leicester City
Puncheon____________England__________________Crystal Palace
Richardson__________England__________________Aston Villa
Rodwell ____________England__________________Sunderland
Rooney______________England__________________Manchester United
Rose________________England__________________Tottenham Hotspur
Routledge___________England__________________Swansea City
Shackell____________England__________________Burnley
Shawcross___________England__________________Stoke City
Shelvey ____________England__________________Swansea City
Simpson ____________England__________________Queens Park Rangers
Smalling____________England__________________Manchester United
Sterling____________England__________________Liverpool
Stones______________England__________________Everton
Sturridge___________England__________________Liverpool
Taylor _____________England__________________Burnley
Terry_______________England__________________Chelsea
Trippier____________England__________________Burnley
Ward________________England__________________Crystal Palace
Ward-Prowse_________England__________________Southampton
Westwood ___________England__________________Aston Villa
Wickham_____________England__________________Sunderland
Williamson__________England__________________Newcastle United
Wilshere ___________England__________________Arsenal
Wisdom______________England__________________West Bromwich Albion
Young ______________England__________________Manchester United

Cabella_____________France___________________Newcastle United
Capoue______________France___________________Tottenham Hotspur
Cissokho____________France___________________Aston Villa
Clichy______________France___________________Manchester City
Debuchy_____________France___________________Arsenal
Distin______________France___________________Everton
Gouffran ___________France___________________Newcastle United
Kaboul______________France___________________Tottenham Hotspur
Knockaert __________France___________________Leicester City
Koscielny___________France___________________Arsenal
Lloris______________France___________________Tottenham Hotspur
Nasri ______________France___________________Manchester City
N'Zogbia ___________France___________________Aston Villa
N'Zonzi_____________France___________________Stoke City
Remy________________France___________________Queens Park Rangers
Riviere ____________France___________________Newcastle United
Roberge ____________France___________________Sunderland
Sanogo _____________France___________________Arsenal
Schneiderlin _______France___________________Southampton
Sissoko_____________France___________________Newcastle United
Schürrle ___________Germany__________________Chelsea
Sigurdsson__________Iceland__________________Swansea City
Dunne  _____________Ireland__________________Queens Park Rangers
Ireland_____________Ireland__________________Stoke City
McCarthy____________Ireland__________________Everton
McGeady ____________Ireland__________________Everton
O'Brien ____________Ireland__________________West Ham United
O'Shea______________Ireland__________________Sunderland
Whelan _____________Ireland__________________Stoke City
Wilson______________Ireland__________________Stoke City
Mannone_____________Italy___________________Sunderland
Pellè_______________Italy___________________Southampton
Bony _______________Ivory Coast______________Swansea City
Y Touré_____________Ivory Coast______________Manchester City
Morgan______________Jamaica__________________Leicester City
Yoshida_____________Japan___________________Southampton
Wanyama_____________Kenya___________________Southampton
Hernández __________Mexico___________________Manchester United
Jovetic ____________Montegnegro______________Manchester City
Chamakh ____________Morocco__________________Crystal Palace
Anita ______________Netherlands______________Newcastle United
Janmaat ____________Netherlands______________Newcastle United
Krul________________Netherlands______________Newcastle United
Pieters_____________Netherlands______________Stoke City
van Aanholt_________Netherlands______________Sunderland
Vlaar_______________Netherlands______________Aston Villa
Reid________________New Zealand______________West Ham United
Anichebe____________Nigeria__________________West Bromwich Albion
Hangeland___________Norway___________________Crystal Palace
Fabianski___________Poland___________________Swansea City
Szczesny____________Poland___________________Arsenal
Fonte_______________Portugal_________________Southampton
Vaz Te _____________Portugal_________________West Ham United
Arfield_____________Scotland_________________Burnley
Bardsley____________Scotland_________________Stoke City
Dorrans  ___________Scotland_________________West Bromwich Albion
Fletcher____________Scotland_________________Sunderland
Fletcher____________Scotland_________________Manchester United
Hutton _____________Scotland_________________Aston Villa
McGregor____________Scotland_________________Hull City
Naismith____________Scotland_________________Everton
Robertson___________Scotland_________________Hull City
Snodgrass __________Scotland_________________Hull City
Diouf ______________Senegal__________________Stoke City
Kouyaté ____________Senegal__________________West Ham United
Traore______________Senegal__________________Queens Park Rangers
Ivanovic____________Serbia___________________Chelsea
Kolarov ____________Serbia___________________Manchester City
Matic_______________Serbia___________________Chelsea
Tadic ______________Serbia___________________Southampton
Skrtel______________Slovakia_________________Liverpool
Pienaar ____________South Africa_____________Everton
Ki Sung-yueng ______South Korea______________Swansea City
Adrián______________Spain___________________West Ham United
Amat________________Spain___________________Swansea City
Arteta______________Spain___________________Arsenal
Azpilicueta_________Spain___________________Chelsea
Cazorla ____________Spain___________________Arsenal
de Gea______________Spain___________________Manchester United
Diego Costa ________Spain___________________Chelsea
Fàbregas____________Spain___________________Chelsea
Herrera ____________Spain___________________Manchester United
Krkic_______________Spain___________________Stoke City
Manquillo __________Spain___________________Liverpool
Mata________________Spain___________________Manchester United
Rangel______________Spain___________________Swansea City
Silva ______________Spain___________________Manchester City
Larsson_____________Sweden___________________Sunderland
Olsson _____________Sweden___________________West Bromwich Albion
Senderos____________Switzerland______________Aston Villa
Adebayor ___________Togo___________________Tottenham Hotspur
Guzan_______________USA___________________Aston Villa
Howard______________USA___________________Everton
Chester_____________Wales___________________Hull City
Collins_____________Wales___________________West Ham United
Dummett_____________Wales___________________Newcastle United
King________________Wales___________________Leicester City
Ledley______________Wales___________________Crystal Palace
Ramsey______________Wales___________________Arsenal
Taylor  ____________Wales___________________Swansea City
Williams____________Wales___________________Swansea City
By:
okeydokey
When: 29 Aug 14 08:09
^ very impressive work mate. One question though...is your telly broke ?
By:
kincsem
When: 29 Aug 14 16:51
^I was watching a 1986 World Cup match, Denmark v Scotland, while I was working on that.
The "Danish Dynamite" Love team from 1980 to 1992 played some good football.

I'm Irish, which makes my work to find out how many English play in the Premier League a bit odd.
English football needs to get the finger out or they will be going down the plughole.
You can't expect Roy Hodgson to change water into wine.
I might even do a bit more digging to see if the 87 England players above have any potential.
Baines, Ferdinand, Gerrard, Jagielka, Rooney, Terry in that 87 are not going to do it.
By:
duffy
When: 29 Aug 14 16:55
Prebejn Eljkaer was my personal favourite....remember have a confident bet on them to beat spain in 86 I think...and butragueno single handedly ripped them apart.Cry
By:
kincsem
When: 29 Aug 14 18:20
England have imo less than 30 players available for selection.

Age - old ......... 25 ... exclude players age 29 and over
Poor 2012/13 ...... 14 ... exclude West Brom, Aston Villa, Sunderland, Hull narrowly avoided relegation
Poor 2013/14 ......  5 ... exclude Crystal Palace poor start to 2014
Promoted .......... 11 ... exclude Leicester, Burnley, QPR lack top level experience
Northern Ireland ..  4 ... exclude Duff (Burnley); Bruce (Hull); Davis (Southampton); Brunt (WBA) all are Northern Ireland (flag looks similar to England on Wiki)
Possible .......... 28 ... young players in top or middle Premier league teams.
   
Total players ..... 87


Players___________Team__________________Age_____Comment
Chambers __________Arsenal______________19.6___ (Possible)
Sterling___________Liverpool____________19.7___ (Possible)
Ward-Prowse________Southampton__________19.8___ (Possible)
Stones_____________Everton______________20.3___ (Possible)
Blackett __________Manchester United____20.4___ (Possible)
Dier_______________Tottenham Hotspur____20.6___ (Possible)
Lingard ___________Manchester United____21.7___ (Possible)
Jones______________Manchester United____22.5___ (Possible)
Shelvey ___________Swansea City_________22.5___ (Possible)
Wilshere __________Arsenal______________22.7___ (Possible)
Clyne_____________Southampton___________23.4___ (Possible)
Henderson_________Liverpool_____________24.2___ (Possible)
Rose______________Tottenham Hotspur_____24.2___ (Possible)
Cresswell__________West Ham United______24.7___ (Possible)
Smalling___________Manchester United____24.8___ (Possible)
Colback____________Newcastle United_____24.8___ (Possible)
Gibbs _____________Arsenal______________24.9___ (Possible)
Sturridge___________Liverpool___________25.0___ (Possible)
Bertrand___________Southampton__________25.1___ (Possible)
Naughton___________Tottenham Hotspur____25.8___ (Possible)
Forster_____________Southampton_________26.5___ (Possible)
Dyer  ______________Swansea City________26.8___ (Possible)
Shawcross__________Stoke City___________26.9___ (Possible)
Noble *____________West Ham United______27.3___ (Possible)
Hart_______________Manchester City______27.4___ (Possible)
Lennon ____________Tottenham Hotspur____27.4___ (Possible)
Cahill_____________Chelsea______________28.7___ (Possible)
Rooney____________Manchester United_____28.8___ (Possible)

* reports this week he may play for Ireland
By:
kincsem
When: 29 Aug 14 18:26
The full 87 day 1 Premier League starters of English nationality (actuall included four Northern Ireland in error).

Players___________Team___________Age___Comment
Chambers ________Arsenal_______________19.6___ (Possible)
Sterling_________Liverpool_____________19.7___ (Possible)
Ward-Prowse______Southampton___________19.8___ (Possible)
Stones___________Everton_______________20.3___ (Possible)
Blackett ________Manchester United_____20.4___ (Possible)
Dier_____________Tottenham Hotspur_____20.6___ (Possible)
Berahino_________West Bromwich Albion__21.1___Poor 2012/13
Wisdom___________West Bromwich Albion__21.3___Poor 2012/13
Wickham__________Sunderland____________21.4___Poor 2012/13
Moore ___________Leicester City________21.6___Promoted
Lingard _________Manchester United_____21.7___ (Possible)
Ings ____________Burnley_______________22.1___Promoted
Jones____________Manchester United_____22.5___ (Possible)
Shelvey _________Swansea City__________22.5___ (Possible)
Ince ____________Hull City_____________22.6___Poor 2012/13
Wilshere ________Arsenal_______________22.7___ (Possible)
Caulker__________Queens Park Rangers___22.7___Promoted
Mutch____________Queens Park Rangers___22.7___Promoted
Clyne____________Southampton___________23.4___ (Possible)
Rodwell _________Sunderland____________23.5___Poor 2012/13
Trippier_________Burnley_______________23.9___Promoted
Henderson________Liverpool_____________24.2___ (Possible)
Rose_____________Tottenham Hotspur_____24.2___ (Possible)
Dawson __________West Bromwich Albion__24.3___Poor 2012/13
Kelly ___________Crystal Palace________24.3___Poor 2013/14
Westwood ________Aston Villa___________24.4___Poor 2012/13
Drinkwater ______Leicester City________24.5___Promoted
Cresswell________West Ham United_______24.7___ (Possible)
Delph____________Aston Villa___________24.8___Poor 2012/13
Livermore________Hull City_____________24.8___Poor 2012/13
Ward_____________Crystal Palace________24.8___Poor 2013/14
Smalling_________Manchester United_____24.8___ (Possible)
Colback__________Newcastle United______24.8___ (Possible)
Gibbs ___________Arsenal_______________24.9___ (Possible)
Mee______________Burnley_______________24.9___Promoted
Sturridge________Liverpool_____________25.0___ (Possible)
Bertrand_________Southampton___________25.1___ (Possible)
Austin___________Queens Park Rangers___25.1___Promoted
Jutkiewicz ______Burnley_______________25.4___Promoted
Naughton_________Tottenham Hotspur_____25.8___ (Possible)
Cattermole_______Sunderland____________26.4___Poor 2012/13
Forster__________Southampton___________26.5___ (Possible)
Dyer  ___________Swansea City__________26.8___ (Possible)
Shawcross________Stoke City____________26.9___ (Possible)
Campbell ________Crystal Palace________27.0___Poor 2013/14
Johnson _________Sunderland____________27.1___Poor 2012/13
Noble____________West Ham United_______27.3___ (Possible)
Hart_____________Manchester City_______27.4___ (Possible)
Lennon __________Tottenham Hotspur_____27.4___ (Possible)
Dann ____________Crystal Palace________27.5___Poor 2013/14
Simpson _________Queens Park Rangers___27.6___Promoted
Huddlestone______Hull City_____________27.7___Poor 2012/13
Gardner _________West Bromwich Albion__27.8___Poor 2012/13
Agbonlahor ______Aston Villa___________27.9___Poor 2012/13
Puncheon_________Crystal Palace________28.2___Poor 2013/14
Heaton___________Burnley_______________28.4___Promoted
Cahill___________Chelsea_______________28.7___ (Possible)
Rooney___________Manchester United_____28.8___ (Possible)
Davies ____________Hull City___________29.0___Age
Young ____________Manchester United____29.1___Age
Nugent____________Leicester City_______29.3___Age
Routledge_________Swansea City_________29.6___Age
Baines____________Everton______________29.7___Age
Jones_____________Burnley______________29.8___Age
Richardson________Aston Villa__________29.9___Age
Johnson___________Liverpool____________30.0___Age
Downing___________West Ham United______30.1___Age
Marney____________Burnley______________30.6___Age
Williamson________Newcastle United_____30.8___Age
Cole _____________West Ham United______30.9___Age
Shackell__________Burnley______________31.0___Age
Foster____________West Bromwich Albion_31.4___Age
Jagielka__________Everton______________32.0___Age
Barton____________Queens Park Rangers__32.0___Age
Nolan_____________West Ham United______32.2___Age
Taylor ___________Burnley______________32.8___Age
Konchesky_________Leicester City_______33.3___Age
Barry ____________Everton______________33.5___Age
Terry_____________Chelsea______________33.7___Age
Gerrard___________Liverpool____________34.2___Age
Green_____________Queens Park Rangers__34.6___Age
Brown ____________Sunderland___________34.9___Age
Ferdinand_________Queens Park Rangers__35.8___Age
Duff______________Burnley______________00.0___Northern Ireland
Bruce ____________Hull City____________00.0___Northern Ireland
Davis  ___________Southampton__________00.0___Northern Ireland
Brunt ____________West Bromwich Albion_00.0___Northern Ireland
By:
kincsem
When: 29 Aug 14 18:30
duffy
Prebejn Eljkaer was my personal favourite....remember have a confident bet on them to beat spain in 86 I think...and butragueno single handedly ripped them apart.


It started when Jesper Olsen played a back pass without looking. Sad
By:
themover
When: 03 Sep 14 21:56
another boring display from a boring manager that hasn't got a scooby doo
By:
treetop
When: 03 Sep 14 21:58
Boring is too kind a word mover,depressing that even in a firendly we try to play backwards,sideways and backwards against a pub team.
By:
acquiesce12
When: 03 Sep 14 22:02
50,000 mugs turned up
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 03 Sep 14 22:11
been horrible watching england for years....strangely though in hoddles and venables time we didnt look so far behind technically.

now teams like peru equador and chile look better with the ball....thats how times have changed.
By:
stridingedge
When: 03 Sep 14 22:40
they are better because they pass and move

usa and lots of similar teams looked better at the world cup

until england play at a club pace for the international team we will always perofrm badly. i don't expect us to win a tournament we have no right to but the style of football is rubbish.
By:
charwell.
When: 03 Sep 14 23:35
Woy putting his usual BS spin on yet another pile of dross.

Those apologists who supported Woys ridiculous appointment are AWOL it seems. Guy is a joke.
By:
mafeking
When: 04 Sep 14 00:18
must be a chance momentum will become unstoppable to get rid of him if they lose to switzerland
By:
themover
When: 04 Sep 14 01:55
Two shots on target against Norway, no wonder the interest in the national team is probably at an all-time low and stadium half empty. Unfortunately it won't be getting any better under Hodgson.
By:
mafeking
When: 04 Sep 14 02:14
that's what will get him the sack. if they can't sell tickets to watch the sort of mediocre rubbish his teams always serve up. as always it comes down to money
By:
buzzer
When: 04 Sep 14 08:10
“They’re not the teams that normally attract full houses. But if the team works as hard as they did tonight, show the appetite and desire, and the aggression in the defending, show the exciting moves that were there for all to see, they’ll come back.”



Laugh good ol Woy
By:
Java
When: 04 Sep 14 09:28
Did he really say that?  Does he not realise he makes himself sound like a complete idiot?  Just like when he claimed a 0-0 draw with Costa Rica had sent the fans home with a smile on their faces.  What a moron.
By:
themover
When: 04 Sep 14 11:45
Manager Roy Hodgson said: "We'll find it hard to bring attendances back because the opponents we're playing won't excite the public."

Totally out of touch. Anyone would go and see an England game if the England team was exciting to watch, whoever they were playing.

"We enjoyed some positive moments, some good movement and good play. All the things I wanted I thought I saw for large periods of the game."

The movement was shocking, Woy must have been watching the Germany/Argentina match.
By:
Roker_Park
When: 04 Sep 14 12:36
Defeat on Monday should see the end of him if the FA had any balls.
By:
Mike-lfc
When: 04 Sep 14 12:44
All football fans disagree..... apart from this... Roy Hodgson is a ****g useless manager.
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 04 Sep 14 13:08
That's very true Mike. Very rare fans of all clubs agree on something, and I dont think there are any that think Hidgson is anything but a complete buffoon.
By:
BARNEY21.
When: 04 Sep 14 13:13
You have tried almost everyone else and are still very poor,Rooney hasn,t kicked a ball or anything else in over 2yrs yet he is made captain,Cahill hopeless,Jones rubbish.Henderson/Wilshire average,thar ye go.
By:
themover
When: 04 Sep 14 13:18
Numerous managers succeed in getting the best out of average players. There's no excuse for Hodgson, he has a full team of Premier League players and yet match after match he sends them out and they play like San Marino (sorry San Marino). Last night he refused to get involved with the shots on goal stat and mentioned how many were blocked etc (of which there were 6). It was a woeful performance, like the vast majority of his other matches as manager, and then bleats on about the quality in the team and how they do for their clubs. #sickofhearingit
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 04 Sep 14 13:18
Cahill hopeless?  Why do the Liverpool contingent look so good under BR and half as good under Woy. They definitely aren't world beaters but nobody can convince me Hodgson isn't completely inept and they another Manager wouldn't fare better.
By:
stridingedge
When: 04 Sep 14 13:23
this debate was going on in the world cup

teams with players in lower leagues all over the world (including our country) were performing better than us.

the tempo is wrong for starters, it's bull that our players cannot play at a tempo, they do it every week in the premier league. for england its lethargic rubbish.

the defence is definitely weaker now than it has been in the past but from midfield up, there should be a great energy and an attempt at playing fast pass and move football. it just doesn't happen.

when you can't do it against norway, it's far more than the players ability.

rooney is an issue in itself, WTF is wrong with him, just got worse and worse, looks gone at the game at 28.
By:
jed.davison
When: 04 Sep 14 13:30
The real problem you've got with Hodgson, and why he's such a bad manager, is that he doesn't even know the qualities of his own players.

He really has no idea how good Sterling is or where he should be playing in the team and he obviously thinks Rooney is still the Rooney of 2004. There is no justification, and hasn't been since 2010 at least, for picking Wayne Rooney for England. It's almost criminal that having been relieved of two sacred cows in Lampard and Gerrard, we're going to have to watch another one lumbering around for another tournament cycle at least, especially when we have decent players we could play instead. Hopefully Welbeck will get some games at Arsenal to show Hodgson and a couple of other managers why he should no longer be playing second fiddle to a wasted talent.
By:
TexassportsagentBuzz
When: 04 Sep 14 13:34
For sure they could get a better manager than Roy Hodgson, but it wouldn't make a huge difference IMO.  They celebrate these 100 cap players and call them World Class when really they are above average and no better.

Gerard, Cole, LAmpard, Rooney, Beckham had what 500 caps between them?  Now ask yourself if those players had a French/Italian/German/Spanish/Brazilian/Argentinian parent and declared for one of those countries how many caps would they have?

Gerard, Lampard, Rooney and Beckham would have got 15-20 for those nations before they were deemed not good enough, Cole maybe would get close to 100 because lb is a problem position for most teams and Nations
By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 04 Sep 14 14:33
Cant agree Texas. Gerrard would have got many, many caps for any country. England have never, ever played him in his best position. He has never been any good as a central midfielder in a 4-4-2. Or even worse as a left midfielder in the same formation.

If you look at his performances in the Benitez era, in the hole behind Torres and freed of any defensive duties whatsoever, he was genuinely world class, and would have been good enough for most sides in the world.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 04 Sep 14 14:55
problem with the pl's "higher tempo" is it involves risker passing.

british players havent the technique to carry off more intricate short passes so cant play a short passing high tempo game....hence why we have to always take a touch....i kno wi bang on about it but its a major flaw in our coaching in this country when you see far moreoften foreign players knowing where to pass before they have it.

we will discount jose enrique in this as he really is more british than the british lol.

5 passes to advance 40 yards from a continental side is almost certainly going to be harder to close down than the same from a set of british players....more often than not.

thats the issue.

they are mor elikely to play a higher tempo if they see fit to than we are because if we play our high tempo it involves giving the ball back to them more.... a vicious circle.

but your right striding....higher tempo would help just not the pl's version
By:
metaphor
When: 04 Sep 14 15:07
what bothers me is the unprecedented support he gets from the football media in this country. even after "monkeygate" (still cant believe he got away with that) and an atrocious world cup. another atrocious performance v's norway where only 40k turned up at wembley, yet the media still give him an easy ride...it's incredible!

his england team play static one dimensional bog standard football that lacks imagination, flair, spark or creativity. no wonder ppl don't want to watch them. and no doubt if we get beat by the swiss the media will still back him up. it'll be the usual "give roy a chance .. we are building for the future...it's a young squad"

bore off you mugs and get real. the best thing you can do for england's future is to sack him. it's jut not working...can't you see that?
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