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By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 16 Jan 13 18:52
peeler these players you dont rate have just contributed to the best start to a top flight season ever. Plenty of them will improve and get better.
By:
mexicano
When: 16 Jan 13 18:53
but according to you he'd be more successful if he fluked the cl.
By:
A_T
When: 16 Jan 13 18:53
we're told every year Arsenal have the best young players never gets them anywhere
By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 16 Jan 13 18:53
Managering in Germany is equivalent of a top NFL coach coaching in the Canadian Football League.
By:
peeler
When: 16 Jan 13 18:53
We will see but does Guardiola see that? I can't I think that RVP makes the difference between this season and last
By:
JamDav1982
When: 16 Jan 13 18:53

Jan 16, 2013 -- 6:53PM, mexicano wrote:


but according to you he'd be more successful if he fluked the cl.


If he won the CL he would be more successful yes. However it was won.

By:
peeler
When: 16 Jan 13 18:55
A.T my point exactly once you take the above named out of mufc squad most of whom will be gone in 2-3yrs what have you got?
By:
Barzalona
When: 16 Jan 13 18:57
Respect to Pep for turning down ridiculous money from the Russian.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 16 Jan 13 18:57
The better bettor

The german league is now one of the top 3 leagues in europe. Unlike Spain and England most of its clubs are solvent and well placed for FFP
By:
peeler
When: 16 Jan 13 18:58
It will beinteresting to see if pep develops a different playing style at Munich
By:
mexicano
When: 16 Jan 13 18:58
so by your logic rdm is a more succesful manager than wenger?
By:
JamDav1982
When: 16 Jan 13 18:58

Jan 16, 2013 -- 6:58PM, mexicano wrote:


so by your logic rdm is a more succesful manager than wenger?


Not at all but he was last season.

By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 16 Jan 13 18:59
mw 2008

Probably means jack to all the asian fans.
By:
mexicano
When: 16 Jan 13 19:00
as i nsaid earlier

the cl is very poor barometer for managerial competence.
By:
peeler
When: 16 Jan 13 19:00
Who wil PG 1st signing be?
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 16 Jan 13 19:01
peeler     16 Jan 13 18:37 
Ferdinand,RVP,Scholes,Giggs, Valencia,Evra,Vidic etc etc


Ferdinand coming to the end granted will need replacing

RVP is 29 - at his prime

Scholes & Giggs - bit part players now

Valencia is 27

Evra - i would say he is a liability and when Utd replace him they will be stronger.

Vidic is 31 - has hardly played over the last 12 months but if he gets fit will have another two years at least in him.
By:
JamDav1982
When: 16 Jan 13 19:02

Jan 16, 2013 -- 7:00PM, mexicano wrote:


as i nsaid earlierthe cl is very poor barometer for managerial competence.


No it is not. One team getting a lucky run to final doesnt change that fact.

Other winners in last few years - Mourinho, Guardiola and Ferguson.

By:
patrick starr
When: 16 Jan 13 19:02
in other words mw,the squad there is currently an almost perfect balance of youth and experience?
By:
mexicano
When: 16 Jan 13 19:06
it wasn't the fact that they won the cl[a knock out comp] that made them the managers they are. those merits were achieved in domestic comps.

they were all judged on what they did domestically [with the possible exception of mourinho[ long before they won the cl.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 16 Jan 13 19:07
I think Utd have the best balanced squad yes.
By:
Mighty Whites 2008
When: 16 Jan 13 19:07
I think Utd have the best balanced squad yes.
By:
peeler
When: 16 Jan 13 19:08
Your NOT Pep Guardiola thoughGrin
By:
JamDav1982
When: 16 Jan 13 19:09

Jan 16, 2013 -- 7:06PM, mexicano wrote:


it wasn't the fact that they won the cl[a knock out comp] that made them the managers they are. those merits were achieved in domestic comps.they were all judged on what they did domestically [with the possible exception of mourinho[ long before they won the cl.


The CL is part of what has grown them their reputations - all of them without fail.

It is the one above all that Managers hold on their CV and the ones that have proved they can win it are the most sought after for that very reason.

It is the biggest trophy a manager can win but that doesnt mean to not win it you are a failure.

By:
tobermory
When: 17 Jan 13 01:24
Can't really say it is a 'soft option' without knowing what Bayern are expecting him to do.

They might be expecting 3 European Cups in a row like the 1970s for all we know . Certainly there is a widespread view that he was the 2nd biggest factor after Messi in making Barcelona the best team anyone can remember . So maybe Bayern will expect him to get them near that level , which will be very difficult indeed.

Interesting to see how he does. Quite a few managers strike gold with the circumstances of their 1st jobs (Dalglish,Rijkaard) , build incredible teams , but then when you look back years later you wonder whether they were just in the right place at the right time as they struggle in several subsequent jobs.

If Vilanova can win the CL this year in the style of 2009/11 then Guardiola's cachet will be diminishing somewhat already, as people will say it was all about the players all along.
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