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By:
tobermory
When: 08 Dec 12 23:28
These are my current ratings

Team Rating Team Rating
Man City 100.0 Swansea 85.5
Man United 99.0 Stoke 85.5
Chelsea 96.5 Norwich 85.0
Tottenham 95.5 Sunderland 84.5
Arsenal 94.5 Wigan 84.5
Liverpool 94.5 Aston Villa 84.0
Everton 90.5 West Ham 84.0
Newcastle 89.0 Southampton 82.5
West Brom 87.0 Reading 82.5
Fulham 86.5 QPR 82.0




Home Draw Away
Man City 2.19 3.60 Man United 3.92
West Ham 3.64 3.52 Liverpool 2.26
Everton 2.76 3.28 Tottenham 2.99
Fulham 2.59 3.34 Newcastle 3.17


Prices worked out with the table on page 1 but knocked 1.5 off Liverpool & Spurs as no Suarez/Bale

Bets

£6 (liabilty) Lay Everton@2.08 & £3 Tottenham@4
£6 (liablity) Lay Fulham@2.02 & £2 Newcastle@4.2

FulvNew bets not matched yet
By:
tobermory
When: 10 Dec 12 22:15
Match P/L Bet 1 Bet 2 Stake Return Tot.Stk. Tot.Ret. ROI Bank Com.Tot.
90 Rayo Vallecano v Granada £2.00 £2 Granada@5 £2.00 £0.00
91 Getafe v Zaragoza £4.00 £4 Lay, Zaragoza@1.72 £4.00 £0.00 £443.97 £385.48 86.83% £241.51 £11.44
92 Lazio v Inter £3.04 £4.99 Lay, Inter@2.56 £4.99 £8.03 £448.96 £393.51 87.65% £244.55 £11.60
93 West Ham v Blackpool £6.00 £3 Lay, West Ham@1.97 £3 Blackpool@4.1 £6.00 £0.00 £454.96 £393.51 86.49% £238.55 £11.60
94 B Munich v Chelsea £2.00 £2 Chelsea@5.1 £2.00 £0.00 £456.96 £393.51 86.11% £236.55 £11.60
95 Juventus v Napoli £8.83 £3 Napoli@4.1 £3.00 £11.83 £459.96 £405.34 88.13% £245.38 £12.07
96 Barcelona v Athletic Bilbao £6.04 £4.04 Lay, Barcelona@1.32 £2 Athletic Bilbao@9.8 £6.04 £0.00 £466.00 £405.34 86.98% £239.34 £12.07
97 Sunderland v Chelsea £8.00 £4 Lay, Chelsea@1.64 £4 Sunderland@7.4 £8.00 £0.00
98 Southampton v Reading £3.00 £3 Reading@4.5 £3.00 £0.00
99 Swansea v Norwich £26.22 £6 Norwich@5.6 £6.00 £32.22 £483.00 £437.56 90.59% £254.56 £13.45
100 Everton v Tottenham £9.00 £6 Lay, Everton@2.08 £3 Tottenham@4 £9.00 £0.00 £492.00 £437.56 88.93% £245.56 £13.45
101 Fulham v Newcastle £8.00 £6 Lay, Fulham@2.02 £2 Newcastle@4.2 £8.00 £0.00 £500.00 £437.56 87.51% £237.56 £13.45
By:
tobermory
When: 10 Dec 12 22:16
Match P/L Bet 1 Bet 2 Stake Return Tot.Stk. Tot.Ret. ROI Bank Com.Tot.
90 Rayo Vallecano v Granada £2.00 £2 Granada@5 £2.00 £0.00
91 Getafe v Zaragoza £4.00 £4 Lay, Zaragoza@1.72 £4.00 £0.00 £443.97 £385.48 86.83% £241.51 £11.44
92 Lazio v Inter £3.04 £4.99 Lay, Inter@2.56 £4.99 £8.03 £448.96 £393.51 87.65% £244.55 £11.60
93 West Ham v Blackpool £6.00 £3 Lay, West Ham@1.97 £3 Blackpool@4.1 £6.00 £0.00 £454.96 £393.51 86.49% £238.55 £11.60
94 B Munich v Chelsea £2.00 £2 Chelsea@5.1 £2.00 £0.00 £456.96 £393.51 86.11% £236.55 £11.60
95 Juventus v Napoli £8.83 £3 Napoli@4.1 £3.00 £11.83 £459.96 £405.34 88.13% £245.38 £12.07
96 Barcelona v Athletic Bilbao £6.04 £4.04 Lay, Barcelona@1.32 £2 Athletic Bilbao@9.8 £6.04 £0.00 £466.00 £405.34 86.98% £239.34 £12.07
97 Sunderland v Chelsea £8.00 £4 Lay, Chelsea@1.64 £4 Sunderland@7.4 £8.00 £0.00
98 Southampton v Reading £3.00 £3 Reading@4.5 £3.00 £0.00
99 Swansea v Norwich £26.22 £6 Norwich@5.6 £6.00 £32.22 £483.00 £437.56 90.59% £254.56 £13.45
100 Everton v Tottenham £9.00 £6 Lay, Everton@2.08 £3 Tottenham@4 £9.00 £0.00 £492.00 £437.56 88.93% £245.56 £13.45
101 Fulham v Newcastle £8.00 £6 Lay, Fulham@2.02 £2 Newcastle@4.2 £8.00 £0.00 £500.00 £437.56 87.51% £237.56 £13.45
By:
tobermory
When: 10 Dec 12 22:19
run of 5/23 winning matches ffs
By:
tobermory
When: 11 Dec 12 15:09
Home Draw Away
Sunderland 2.04 3.66 Reading 4.21


My odds for that game are pretty much exactly as Betfair so looking like a no bet there

League Cup Ratings

Team Rating Team Rating
Arsenal 90 Aston Villa 84.0
Swansea 85.5 Middlesbrough 80.5
Norwich 85.0 Bradford 68


Arsenal rating anticipating a weakened , but not completely laughable line up

Home Draw Away
Bradford 9.57 5.01 Arsenal 1.44
Norwich 2.13 3.60 Aston Villa 3.92
Swansea 1.81 3.88 Middlesbrough 5.29


At the moment Arsenal match again very close to my odds so another no bet probably.Villa a possibility, but will have to wait on team news
By:
tobermory
When: 11 Dec 12 19:16
£2 Reading@4.8

all i can come up with from these games
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Dec 12 02:32
Team Rating Team Rating
Man City 100.0 Swansea 85.5
Man United 99.0 Stoke 85.5
Chelsea 96.5 Norwich 85.0
Tottenham 95.5 Sunderland 84.5
Liverpool 94.5 Wigan 84.5
Arsenal 94.0 Aston Villa 84.0
Everton 91.0 West Ham 84.0
Newcastle 88.5 Southampton 82.5
West Brom 87.0 Reading 82.0
Fulham 86.5 QPR 82.0



Home Draw Away
Newcastle 4.34 3.70 2.00 Man City
Liverpool 1.53 4.52 8.15 Aston Villa
Norwich 2.19 3.57 3.78 Wigan
Man United 1.39 5.38 10.75 Sunderland
QPR 2.90 3.20 2.90 Fulham
Stoke 2.99 3.28 2.76 Everton
Tottenham 1.55 4.43 7.86 Swansea
West Brom 1.92 3.77 4.67 West Ham
Reading 4.50 3.73 1.95 Arsenal



£5 (liabilty) Lay,Man City@1.69 & £3 Newcastle@5.8
£5 (liabilty) Lay,QPR@2.38 v Fulham
£2 Sunderland@18 v Man United

have some unmatched bets on other games
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Dec 12 14:52
£3 (liabilty) Lay, Liverpool@1.38 & £2 Aston Villa@10.5
£6 (liabilty) Lay Man United@1.23 v Sunderland
£3 Stoke@3.45 v Everton
By:
tobermory
When: 15 Dec 12 18:45
Match P/L Bet 1 Bet 2 Stake Return Tot.Stk. Tot.Ret. ROI Bank Com.Tot.
96 Barcelona v Athletic Bilbao £6.04 £4.04 Lay, Barcelona@1.32 £2 Athletic Bilbao@9.8 £6.04 £0.00 £466.00 £405.34 86.98% £239.34 £12.07
97 Sunderland v Chelsea £8.00 £4 Lay, Chelsea@1.64 £4 Sunderland@7.4 £8.00 £0.00
98 Southampton v Reading £3.00 £3 Reading@4.5 £3.00 £0.00
99 Swansea v Norwich £26.22 £6 Norwich@5.6 £6.00 £32.22 £483.00 £437.56 90.59% £254.56 £13.45
100 Everton v Tottenham £9.00 £6 Lay, Everton@2.08 £3 Tottenham@4 £9.00 £0.00 £492.00 £437.56 88.93% £245.56 £13.45
101 Fulham v Newcastle £8.00 £6 Lay, Fulham@2.02 £2 Newcastle@4.2 £8.00 £0.00 £500.00 £437.56 87.51% £237.56 £13.45
102 Sunderland v Reading £2.00 £2 Reading@4.8 £2.00 £0.00 £502.00 £437.56 87.16% £235.56 £13.45
103 Newcastle v Man City £8.00 £5 Lay, Man City@1.69 £3 Newcastle@5.8 £8.00 £0.00 £510.00 £437.56 85.80% £227.56 £13.45
104 Stoke v Everton £3.00 £3 Stoke@3.45 £3.00 £0.00
105 Liverpool v Aston Villa £25.55 £3 Lay, Liverpool@1.38 £2 Aston Villa@10.5 £5.00 £30.55
106 QPR v Fulham £5.00 £5 Lay, QPR@2.38 £5.00 £0.00
107 Man United v Sunderland £8.00 £6 Lay, Man United@1.23 £2 Sunderland@18 £8.00 £0.00 £531.00 £468.11 91.25% £237.11 £14.80
By:
tobermory
When: 16 Dec 12 02:15
think Spurs might drift without Bale

£4 Tottenham@1.75
£3 West Brom@2.14

think they would be good prices but don't know if they will be matched
By:
tobermory
When: 17 Dec 12 17:44
inevitably 1 matched and 1 not Crazy

ROI in latest table should have read 88.16%

£5 (liabilty) Lay, Arsenal@1.66 & £3 Reading@6
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Dec 12 01:06
Bank hits new low with that latest emphatic loser

Match P/L Bet 1 Bet 2 Stake Return Tot.Stk. Tot.Ret. ROI Bank Com.Tot.
96 Barcelona v Athletic Bilbao £6.04 £4.04 Lay, Barcelona@1.32 £2 Athletic Bilbao@9.8 £6.04 £0.00 £466.00 £405.34 86.98% £239.34 £12.07
97 Sunderland v Chelsea £8.00 £4 Lay, Chelsea@1.64 £4 Sunderland@7.4 £8.00 £0.00
98 Southampton v Reading £3.00 £3 Reading@4.5 £3.00 £0.00
99 Swansea v Norwich £26.22 £6 Norwich@5.6 £6.00 £32.22 £483.00 £437.56 90.59% £254.56 £13.45
100 Everton v Tottenham £9.00 £6 Lay, Everton@2.08 £3 Tottenham@4 £9.00 £0.00 £492.00 £437.56 88.93% £245.56 £13.45
101 Fulham v Newcastle £8.00 £6 Lay, Fulham@2.02 £2 Newcastle@4.2 £8.00 £0.00 £500.00 £437.56 87.51% £237.56 £13.45
102 Sunderland v Reading £2.00 £2 Reading@4.8 £2.00 £0.00 £502.00 £437.56 87.16% £235.56 £13.45
103 Newcastle v Man City £8.00 £5 Lay, Man City@1.69 £3 Newcastle@5.8 £8.00 £0.00 £510.00 £437.56 85.80% £227.56 £13.45
104 Stoke v Everton £3.00 £3 Stoke@3.45 £3.00 £0.00
105 Liverpool v Aston Villa £25.55 £3 Lay, Liverpool@1.38 £2 Aston Villa@10.5 £5.00 £30.55
106 QPR v Fulham £5.00 £5 Lay, QPR@2.38 £5.00 £0.00
107 Man United v Sunderland £8.00 £6 Lay, Man United@1.23 £2 Sunderland@18 £8.00 £0.00 £531.00 £468.11 88.16% £237.11 £14.80
108 West Brom v West Ham £3.00 £3 West Brom@2.14 £3.00 £0.00 £534.00 £468.11 87.66% £234.11 £14.80
109 Reading v Arsenal £8.00 £5 Lay, Arsenal@1.66 £3 Reading@6 £8.00 £0.00 £542.00 £468.11 86.37% £226.11 £14.80
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Dec 12 01:08
Odds worked out for weekend games

Home Draw Away
3.78 Wigan 3.57 Arsenal 2.19
1.27 Man City 6.87 Reading 16.40
1.71 Newcastle 4.00 QPR 6.02
2.52 Southampton 3.37 Sunderland 3.25
1.55 Tottenham 4.43 Stoke 7.86
2.08 West Brom 3.63 Norwich 4.06
3.07 West Ham 3.32 Everton 2.67
1.64 Liverpool 4.16 Fulham 6.75
5.07 Swansea 3.85 Man United 1.85
1.47 Chelsea 4.80 Aston Villa 8.97
By:
tobermory
When: 22 Dec 12 01:22
^ Lowered Everton rating due to Fellaini absence or they would be shorter

£5 (Liabilty) Lay, Arsenal@1.77 & £3 Wigan@5.3
£4 (Liabilty) Lay, Man City@1.16 & £2 Reading@26
£9 Newcastle@2.16
£3 Sunderland@3.7
£2 (Liabilty) Lay, Man United@1.69

Unmatched Bets


£3 (Liabilty) Lay, Liverpool@1.49 & £2 Fulham@8.2
£3 (Liabilty) Lay, Chelsea@1.34 & £2 Aston Villa@11.5
£2 Swansea@6
£4 Tottenham@1.72
By:
tobermory
When: 23 Dec 12 15:31
Spurs bet not matched
Che v AV bets not matched .Cancelled those and had £2 Draw @5.7 instead
By:
Andriy
When: 23 Dec 12 16:57
Tobes, this thread is a rock of sanity in a sea of sh1t.
Have a nice Xmas, and good luck.
By:
Charlton2005
When: 23 Dec 12 17:02
Andriy
23 Dec 12 16:57
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Tobes, this thread is a rock of sanity in a sea of sh1t.
Have a nice Xmas, and good luck.


Certainly trying to be and good luck too, but you'll find trying to predict non-stationary processes with minimal occurrences (goals) is "impossible". Basketball is the kind of game that could support what you're trying to do but football never will.
By:
Andriy
When: 23 Dec 12 17:07
But there are patterns within those occurrences...Pattern Recognition
By:
Charlton2005
When: 23 Dec 12 17:16
Yeah, but pattern recognition is only useful in stationary processes, i.e. same players (and mental condition), same weather etc. Cannot be applied here. The fact that you have to make an adjustment for MF begs the question, what else may need an adjustment.
By:
tobermory
When: 24 Dec 12 02:00
ty Andriy Happy

hmmmm Charlton, not trying to predict anything , just estimate probability , which i think is doable in any sport ; even with variations in team selection and other factors you say, it can be done with fair accuracty. And needs to be done to be succesful . Though not being done very well on this thread so far.
By:
tobermory
When: 24 Dec 12 02:24
Match P/L Bet 1 Bet 2 Stake Return Tot.Stk. Tot.Ret. ROI Bank Com.Tot.
99 Swansea v Norwich £26.22 £6 Norwich@5.6 £6.00 £32.22 £483.00 £437.56 90.59% £254.56 £13.45
100 Everton v Tottenham £9.00 £6 Lay, Everton@2.08 £3 Tottenham@4 £9.00 £0.00 £492.00 £437.56 88.93% £245.56 £13.45
101 Fulham v Newcastle £8.00 £6 Lay, Fulham@2.02 £2 Newcastle@4.2 £8.00 £0.00 £500.00 £437.56 87.51% £237.56 £13.45
102 Sunderland v Reading £2.00 £2 Reading@4.8 £2.00 £0.00 £502.00 £437.56 87.16% £235.56 £13.45
103 Newcastle v Man City £8.00 £5 Lay, Man City@1.69 £3 Newcastle@5.8 £8.00 £0.00 £510.00 £437.56 85.80% £227.56 £13.45
104 Stoke v Everton £3.00 £3 Stoke@3.45 £3.00 £0.00
105 Liverpool v Aston Villa £25.55 £3 Lay, Liverpool@1.38 £2 Aston Villa@10.5 £5.00 £30.55
106 QPR v Fulham £5.00 £5 Lay, QPR@2.38 £5.00 £0.00
107 Man United v Sunderland £8.00 £6 Lay, Man United@1.23 £2 Sunderland@18 £8.00 £0.00 £531.00 £468.11 88.16% £237.11 £14.80
108 West Brom v West Ham £3.00 £3 West Brom@2.14 £3.00 £0.00 £534.00 £468.11 87.66% £234.11 £14.80
109 Reading v Arsenal £8.00 £5 Lay, Arsenal@1.66 £3 Reading@6 £8.00 £0.00 £542.00 £468.11 86.37% £226.11 £14.80
110 Wigan v Arsenal £8.00 £5 Lay, Arsenal@1.77 £3 Wigan@5.3 £8.00 £0.00 £550.00 £468.11 85.11% £218.11 £14.80
111 Southampton v Sunderland £7.69 £3 Sunderland@3.7 £3.00 £10.69
112 Newcastle v QPR £9.92 £9 Newcastle@2.16 £9.00 £18.92
113 Man City v Reading £6.00 £4 Lay, Man City@1.16 £2 Reading@26 £6.00 £0.00 £568.00 £497.72 87.63% £229.72 £15.73
114 Liverpool v Fulham £5.00 £3 Lay, Liverpool@1.49 £2 Fulham@8.2 £5.00 £0.00 £573.00 £497.72 86.86% £224.72 £15.73
115 Swansea v Man United £0.85 £2 Lay, Man United@1.69 £2 Swansea@6 £4.00 £4.85 £577.00 £502.57 87.10% £225.57 £15.78
116 Chelsea v Aston Villa £2.00 £2 Draw@5.7 £2.00 £0.00 £579.00 £502.57 86.80% £223.57 £15.78
By:
tobermory
When: 24 Dec 12 20:54
Team Rating Team Rating
Man City 100.0 Swansea 85.5
Man United 99.0 Stoke 85.5
Chelsea 96.5 Norwich 85.0
Tottenham 95.0 Sunderland 84.5
Liverpool 94.5 Aston Villa 84.5
Arsenal 94.0 Aston Villa 84.0
Everton 91.5 West Ham 84.0
Newcastle 88.5 Southampton 82.0
West Brom 86.5 QPR 82.0
Fulham 86.5 Reading 81.5



Home Draw Away
1.74 Everton 3.96 Wigan 5.78
1.85 Fulham 3.85 Southampton 5.07
1.53 Man United 4.52 Newcastle 8.15
3.70 Norwich 4.34 Chelsea 2.00
2.90 QPR 3.20 West Brom 2.90
2.84 Reading 3.24 Swansea 2.94
6.02 Sunderland 4.00 Man City 1.71
4.06 Aston Villa 3.63 Tottenham 2.08
3.64 Stoke 3.52 Liverpool 2.26
1.55 Arsenal 4.43 West Ham 7.86



Everton rated at 90 due to Fellaini suspension
By:
MrLay0-0
When: 24 Dec 12 21:01
Just seen this thread, can you explain the tables please
By:
MrLay0-0
When: 24 Dec 12 21:03
Top one is rated how good they are I take it..
By:
MrLay0-0
When: 24 Dec 12 21:10
Is the second table your own projected odds?
By:
hejik
When: 24 Dec 12 21:26
MrLay0-0 loving tobers tables
By:
MrLay0-0
When: 24 Dec 12 21:29
Yes i think it is very interesting :)
By:
tobermory
When: 24 Dec 12 21:43
Yes MrLay 0-0 you are correct
By:
tobermory
When: 24 Dec 12 21:44
the ratings convert to odds using the table that is on page 1 of thread
By:
tobermory
When: 24 Dec 12 22:01
£4 (Liabilty)Lay, Everton@1.51 & £2 Wigan@8
£7 (Liabilty)Lay, Man United@1.27 & £2 Newcastle@14
£6 (Liabilty)Lay, Chelsea@ 1.64 & £ Norwich@6.6
£5 (Liabilty)Lay, QPR@2.28 & £3 West Brom@3.55
£4 (Liabilty)Lay, Swansea@2.46
£3 (Liabilty)Lay, Man City@1.54 & £2 Sunderland@8

Some of those not matched but should be by kick off
By:
MrLay0-0
When: 24 Dec 12 22:35
very interesting, what was your starting bank and current bank through this?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 24 Dec 12 22:40
Jesus read the whole fred, he started with 300 and now has over 500.

Good work tobes.
By:
MrLay0-0
When: 24 Dec 12 22:47
There are many pages...this way seemed easier, what can I say!
By:
Charlton2005
When: 25 Dec 12 20:44

Ibrahima Sonko

Ibrahima Sonko
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Jesus read the whole fred, he started with 300 and now has over 500.

Good work tobes.


Started with 300 now has 223. Tobermory I hear you, you do need to estimate probabilities but given the structure of the problem, I am convinced "it cannot be done" (as they say). BUT good luck because the process of going through this will exntend your mental faculties and ward off dementia when you are ancient. Keep it up. Happy
By:
kenilworth
When: 26 Dec 12 09:38
tobermory, suspect you are having too many bets (the market can't be
wrong that many times) also IMO your conversion table at the beginning
looks slightly wrong to me.GL
By:
tobermory
When: 27 Dec 12 00:36
started with 300 and now has over 500 sadly not, bank figure in green Sad

I don't know Ken ,market moves around so much . The table may be arguable , i had other tables but lost all the data on broken pc and not got around to doing another
By:
tobermory
When: 27 Dec 12 00:57
All bets matched except QPR lay

Match P/L Bet 1 Bet 2 Stake Return Tot.Stk. Tot.Ret. ROI Bank Com.Tot.
107 Man United v Sunderland £8.00 £6 Lay, Man United@1.23 £2 Sunderland@18 £8.00 £0.00 £531.00 £468.11 88.16% £237.11 £14.80
108 West Brom v West Ham £3.00 £3 West Brom@2.14 £3.00 £0.00 £534.00 £468.11 87.66% £234.11 £14.80
109 Reading v Arsenal £8.00 £5 Lay, Arsenal@1.66 £3 Reading@6 £8.00 £0.00 £542.00 £468.11 86.37% £226.11 £14.80
110 Wigan v Arsenal £8.00 £5 Lay, Arsenal@1.77 £3 Wigan@5.3 £8.00 £0.00 £550.00 £468.11 85.11% £218.11 £14.80
111 Southampton v Sunderland £7.69 £3 Sunderland@3.7 £3.00 £10.69
112 Newcastle v QPR £9.92 £9 Newcastle@2.16 £9.00 £18.92
113 Man City v Reading £6.00 £4 Lay, Man City@1.16 £2 Reading@26 £6.00 £0.00 £568.00 £497.72 87.63% £229.72 £15.73
114 Liverpool v Fulham £5.00 £3 Lay, Liverpool@1.49 £2 Fulham@8.2 £5.00 £0.00 £573.00 £497.72 86.86% £224.72 £15.73
115 Swansea v Man United £0.85 £2 Lay, Man United@1.69 £2 Swansea@6 £4.00 £4.85 £577.00 £502.57 87.10% £225.57 £15.78
116 Chelsea v Aston Villa £2.00 £2 Draw@5.7 £2.00 £0.00 £579.00 £502.57 86.80% £223.57 £15.78
117 Norwich v Chelsea £9.00 £6 Lay, Chelsea@1.64 £3 Norwich@6.6 £9.00 £0.00
118 Reading v Swansea £2.60 £4 Lay, Swansea@2.46 £4.00 £6.60
119 Everton v Wigan £6.00 £4Lay, Everton@1.51 £2 Wigan@8 £6.00 £0.00
120 Sunderland v Man City £18.58 £3Lay, Man City@1.54 £2 Sunderland@8 £5.00 £23.58
121 Man United v Newcastle £9.00 £7Lay, Man United@1.27 £2 Newcastle@14 £9.00 £0.00
122 QPR v West Brom £7.27 £3 West Brom@3.55 £3.00 £10.27 £615.00 £543.02 88.30% £228.02 £17.28
By:
tobermory
When: 28 Dec 12 06:36
Team Rating Team Rating
Man City 100.0 Stoke 86.0
Man United 99.0 Swansea 85.5
Chelsea 97.0 Norwich 85.0
Tottenham 95.0 Sunderland 85.0
Liverpool 94.5 Wigan 84.0
Arsenal 94.0 Aston Villa 84.0
Everton 91.0 West Ham 84.0
Newcastle 88.5 Southampton 82.0
West Brom 86.5 Reading 81.5
Fulham 86.5 QPR 82.0


Home Draw Away
3.92 Sunderland 3.60 Tottenham 2.13
2.04 Fulham 3.66 Swansea 4.21
1.45 Man United 4.90 West Brom 9.26
5.78 Norwich 3.96 Man City 1.74
2.59 Reading 3.34 West Ham 3.17
1.88 Stoke 3.81 Southampton 4.87
2.26 Aston Villa 3.48 Wigan 3.64
1.78 Arsenal 3.92 Newcastle 5.53
4.67 QPR 3.77 Liverpool 1.92
3.25 Everton 3.37 Chelsea 2.52


Everton still -1 pt with Fellaini out (though they've won both without him so far Plain )

Betfair odds close to mine in most games . Big Exception , Arsenal v Newcastle, only one worth max stake

these unmatched

£6 (liabilty) Lay,Arsenal@1.46 & £3 Newcastle@8.6
£6.99 (liabilty) Lay,West Ham@2.6


have a look at the other games later
By:
tobermory
When: 31 Dec 12 21:59
Match P/L Bet 1 Bet 2 Stake Return Tot.Stk. Tot.Ret. ROI Bank Com.Tot.
113 Man City v Reading £6.00 £4 Lay, Man City@1.16 £2 Reading@26 £6.00 £0.00 £568.00 £497.72 87.63% £229.72 £15.73
114 Liverpool v Fulham £5.00 £3 Lay, Liverpool@1.49 £2 Fulham@8.2 £5.00 £0.00 £573.00 £497.72 86.86% £224.72 £15.73
115 Swansea v Man United £0.85 £2 Lay, Man United@1.69 £2 Swansea@6 £4.00 £4.85 £577.00 £502.57 87.10% £225.57 £15.78
116 Chelsea v Aston Villa £2.00 £2 Draw@5.7 £2.00 £0.00 £579.00 £502.57 86.80% £223.57 £15.78
117 Norwich v Chelsea £9.00 £6 Lay, Chelsea@1.64 £3 Norwich@6.6 £9.00 £0.00
118 Reading v Swansea £2.60 £4 Lay, Swansea@2.46 £4.00 £6.60
119 Everton v Wigan £6.00 £4Lay, Everton@1.51 £2 Wigan@8 £6.00 £0.00
120 Sunderland v Man City £18.58 £3Lay, Man City@1.54 £2 Sunderland@8 £5.00 £23.58
121 Man United v Newcastle £9.00 £7Lay, Man United@1.27 £2 Newcastle@14 £9.00 £0.00
122 QPR v West Brom £7.27 £3 West Brom@3.55 £3.00 £10.27 £615.00 £543.02 88.30% £228.02 £17.28
123 Reading v West Ham £4.15 £6.99 Lay, West Ham@2.60 £6.99 £11.14 £621.99 £554.16 89.09% £232.17 £17.50
124 Arsenal v Newcastle £9.00 £6Lay, Arsenal@1.46 £3 Newcastle@8.6 £9.00 £0.00 £630.99 £554.16 87.82% £223.17 £17.50
By:
tobermory
When: 31 Dec 12 22:11
Team Rating Team Rating
Man City 100.0 Stoke 86.0
Man United 99.0 Swansea 85.5
Chelsea 97.0 Norwich 85.0
Tottenham 95.5 Sunderland 85.0
Liverpool 94.5 Wigan 84.0
Arsenal 94.5 West Ham 84.0
Everton 91.5 Aston Villa 83.5
Newcastle 88.5 Southampton 82.0
West Brom 86.5 Reading 81.5
Fulham 86.0 QPR 81.5



Home Draw Away
2.19 West Brom 3.60 Fulham 3.78
1.40 Man City 5.25 Stoke 10.31
2.04 Swansea 3.66 Aston Villa 4.21
1.40 Tottenham 5.25 Reading 10.31
2.38 West Ham 3.44 Norwich 3.43
5.78 Wigan 3.96 Man United 1.74
4.67 Southampton 3.77 Arsenal 1.92
1.36 Chelsea 5.65 QPR 11.76
1.57 Liverpool 4.35 Sunderland 7.58
2.67 Newcastle 3.32 Everton 3.07
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