You know there is something up when it is only Liverpool fans defending the price. It may have been a decent price if you're a fan, otherwise it was clear.

Liverpool could come back and win 3-2 and that would still be the case.

Liverpool should have been 2.5 I would say, all things considered. Look at the way they dominated the first half, consistently created more chances than Newcastle. They are a few pieces short of a top quality team. It should have been Caroll 0-1 but he makes a terrible decision to dive. If this fixture was replayed tomorrow and Liverpool were 3.0, I would back them. As it stands they were 2.2 and I layed.

what on earth are you are on about steptoe this is a betting forum not a knitting circle  - and you're doing the same, oh if I had picked the right numbers I would have won the lottery last night, well you didn't - the facts both pre and as borne out said Newcastle were favourites to win this & just cos some guy in Bangkok has £1 million to waste on his favourite red boys doesn't change a thing - except for the price - ta mate

I think Newcastles defensive team news was the reason for their price to contract 20 ticks, and the further 10 ticks was IR when they were dominating early on.

The value was obviously to lay Liverpool, and I am talking huge value! Unless you are a dyed in the wool Liverpool fan, you know it was!

Liverpool have had one shot on target today and some of you delusionals think they dominated

pumphol.     01 Apr 12 13:31 
Newcastle 2-0 @25 seems much to big imo


A pleasant start to the day

What price would man u or man city been going to newcastle , not much less than liverpool were today i rekon , puts the liverpool price into perspective , innconsistent form , no adam , and going away to a tough ground against a team playing with confidence .

was a big rick

25s, rubbish, I got 1.5 ... great tip bud, enjoy the winnings.

The league table ALWAYS tell some kind of lie. Liverpool were rightfully favourites to win the match. Every single bookmaker in the country will have had Liverpool favourites, but hey what do huge businesses with billion-pound annual turnovers known?

Football prices are rarely that far wrong, because the sport is so heavily analysed. I think you're all overreacting a bit because for once we've seen a value footy price.

really mr bean that is utter utter garbage  - do you realise liverpool would be bottom yes bottom of the league if it started on jan 1st - now I am suggesting you take up another hobby, no-one wants to see beggars on the street

this buisness earns its money on cutting the prices hugely on both sides.

and they r wrong many times with setting favs or odd, but they cut prices so much that they overall gets in profits

Newcastle are now 11 points ahead of Liverpool and will definitely finish well above them when the season is over. Now tell me, do you still think that Newcastle are overachieving and in a false position?

To say that any PL referee is biased is ludicrous.

11 points is misleading, so yes, they are overachieving in a sense. Newcastle have now had convincing wins against West Brom and Liverpool. Liverpool have lost at home to Wigan and been outplayed by Newcastle, so we have more evidence now, but Liverpool are still probably a better team. If we scheduled this fixture for next weekend, Liverpool would still probably be favourites with every bookmaker. Would be considerably tighter though.

what about 3-0 against manu

Wouldn't have done much trading if that early cross shot had gone in,
rather than out, via Krull and the crossbar.

Unless they had equalised as stats would suggest
In 15 games they scored and let in 6 goals.

firstly mr bean you clearly have absolutely no idea how a bookmaker sets a price - you suggest they are taking some sort of a view about the outcome of a football match. That is so old fashioned and naive...look I'll try and keep this as simple and brief as possible to give you a little insight into the workings of the market.

30 years ago bookmakers set prices, they had too, information was restricted and in the first instance they wouldn't even know what price Joe up the road was offering, and their skill dictated their profits. Todays bookmakers, ie the multi million pound businesses need no skill whatsoever in analysing football because they they do not need to set markets, well only within in very narrow and risk free parameters. ie they can open this match's market on the previous monday with a 120% overound and wait for the market to shape itself to a 105% overound - no risk, no hassle, 5% profit, scare off any big punters & bf always on hand to adjust the margins

understand ? - no bookmakers get it right or wrong anymore - they dont need to - the market it shape's itself - in this instance probably from ill-informed millions from thailand or india

Well, you can call me crazy but I go by results when I assess a team's capabilities. And if Team A is 8 points clear of team B and sitting high in the most competitive league in the world, plus Team A have home advantage, then I am going to make Team A the favourites every single time.