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By:
The Dragon
When: 24 Jul 25 19:57
no way this will be a draw  ot will turn like fick on day 5   england win ,,, lay ythe draw
By:
Hayden
When: 24 Jul 25 20:42
You're probably correct Dragon , the plays by some though have different objectives in that it's either a bet to win or a trade for profit depending how you see the test panning out over the next 5 or 6 sessions but as for the final session or two it's almost unheard of that i'll have any interest on the actual outcome by then as i'll either have taken the money or accepted the red if the trade doesn't pan out.


Good luck mate   Happy
By:
DixieDean60
When: 24 Jul 25 21:07
England definitely in the driving seat here, pretty poor bowling performance by India although they were a bit unlucky that the sun came out this afternoon to make conditions easier for batting.  Even though i think Zak should have been dropped i thought he might come good at OT as he has done before, backed him top scorer so bit miffed he got out when he did, had a bet on him to get 50 so no harm done. Glad to see him play so well just wish he'd do it more often !

The fact that the media darling Ben Stokes had not taken a "5 for" since 2017 came as a surprise even to me, given the hero worship the BBC bestow on him. In fact it was only the fifth time he had done so in tests, although he is a very decent bowler he's not not exactly Botham-esque in that respect. Beefy took 27 x 5 or more wicket hauls.

Talking of Mr Botham, i see he has launched a scathing attack on his old county Somerset for preparing a very dodgy wicket at Taunton for this weeks Championship match which lasted all of five sessions as 35 wickets fell. Before play began it seems you would have struggled to tell the wicket from the outfield as it was so green ! Somerset have form for this kind of thing and have had points deductions in the past. Hopefully this will be the case here, it's fine to prepare a wicket that might favour the home team but this wicket was unsuitable for a four day game. Of course the fact that so many teams these days try to emulate "bazball" will not have helped (400 runs were scored on day one, 22 wickets falling).
By:
Hayden
When: 24 Jul 25 22:00
400-22 is obscene Dixie    Laugh
By:
DixieDean60
When: 24 Jul 25 22:44
Hayden, what made me laugh was the Somerset coach Jason Kerr described it as "an incredible pitch" because 400 runs were scored on the first day.
He seemed to forget about the 22 wickets that fell !

Durham were 5-2 in their second innings after Day 1, Jack Leach and Archie Vaughan opened the bowling !!
Which should tell anybody exactly what the wicket was like. They took all 10 wickets between them in the end.
By:
DixieDean60
When: 24 Jul 25 22:49
I see that Tilak Varma score another ton for Hampshire today, he looks a very good prospect - India could have done with him in this match !
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 07:24
Yes Tilak Varma is a fantastic player both in the v and off the back foot, ideal for Test cricket. Sadly options are limited because of a talent pool of 1.4 billion people.

I think they have found a 3 in Sudharson although he has a technical issue on leg stump that needs to be resolved he looks like he ha# the temperament and ability. Shreyas Iyer is good too but has a vulnerability against extreme pace like most people so he would be targeted. If he worked on it he could also play 3.

India need a better seam bowling all rounder.. Both Reddy and Shardul are decent but just coming up short. reddy is also a very good batsman who has not performed this series. Varma at 5 would have worked for me. Pant 6, Jadeja at 7 then 3 seamers and Kukdeep.

I think if Shami was fit India could have played Kuldeep. I think not playing Kuldeep has been a big mistake for India. India need a third seamer of slightly higher kwality.
By:
Hayden
When: 25 Jul 25 09:49
He looks a class apart at times with the great sign of plenty of time to do it  , let's reach the heady heights of top 3 in the table before they start dragging him away though   Happy

1.4 billion to choose from sounds nuts when you say it like that WD    Grin
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 11:29
What is nuts is a 10 yo kid could leave home on his own to live his dream. What’s nut’s us a 14yo kid smashing an IPL hundred in 36 balls!

1.4 Billion people!
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 11:31
Looks like a batting day but the pitch is showing signs if uneven bounce even after being rolled, which, must be a worry for India.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 11:35
England could be leading by 200 with two days to go. India would need to bat at least 4 sessions to have a chance.

Let’s see how the pitch plays after an hour. I have already taken a Hail Mary on India, might increase that after drinks
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 11:58
Truly special Joe Root. Not exciting or spectacular but very very good
By:
The Dragon
When: 25 Jul 25 12:54
happy so far with my back of england and lay of the draw.

eng cd get a really big score in first inns
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 13:24
Good call dragon. I am opposing sadly so behind the eight
By:
Hayden
When: 25 Jul 25 13:39
Yes good stuff Dragon , as we knew though the England % has been compensated by the Indian drift so draw still not moved much so the target now is still the reason some took the draw as a trade by ensuring a two way result so batting an Indian win out of it and take it from there.

Just back from hospital appointment so not seen a delivery yet.
By:
The Dragon
When: 25 Jul 25 13:57
indian spinners doing well at containing the runs
By:
The Dragon
When: 25 Jul 25 13:59
awful from brooks ,,,, shocking
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 14:00
Dreadful from Brook
By:
JerryHatrick
When: 25 Jul 25 14:00
Braindead Brooks
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 14:01
How a game can change. Not saying England will not take a bid lead but we we’re looking at 200 by the end of the day.
By:
Hayden
When: 25 Jul 25 14:02
Hope you took another Indian Hail Mary WD , he who dares etc    Grin
By:
The Dragon
When: 25 Jul 25 14:02
england need another good partnership here
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 14:03
The pitch itself is still good. If it is ok when India bat the it might be England with the problem on Dunday although there might be light rain in the morning on both Saturday and Sunday
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 14:04
Nearly but did not!
By:
The Dragon
When: 25 Jul 25 14:04
dont think brooks is the brightest chip on the block, gets himself out too often with crazy choices
By:
JerryHatrick
When: 25 Jul 25 14:06
As Geoffrey would say, there's more brains in a pork pie
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 14:07
Still young
By:
The Dragon
When: 25 Jul 25 14:29
this commentator has verbal diahorea- shut the fick upCry
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 14:42
True!

Halfway through the Test.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 25 Jul 25 15:05
Root.

Has to be englands greatest ever batsmen,stats don’t lie
By:
comingupthehill
When: 25 Jul 25 15:12
On this series and test cricket in general.

It slightly favours batters these days,making wickets bigger etc ,changing rules,is too much.

But a slight tweak to help bowlers,that wouldn’t in anyway affect the game.

New ball after 60 overs,would just edge a little help to the bowlers and create a little more interest.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 15:14
Herbert Sutcliffe and Wally Hammond
By:
JerryHatrick
When: 25 Jul 25 15:26
Siraj and BUmrah look fecked
By:
comingupthehill
When: 25 Jul 25 15:29
Herbert average 60. Root 51.

Root played a lot more,which works both ways,affecting average,
With drs how many times was Herbert out,given they had home umpires in those days.

Plus all players fitter now,which would mean bowlers are better,fat gatt wasn’t a bowler yet he could bat.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 25 Jul 25 15:38
They should have let Ricky pointing run on the pitch to shake his hand.

Great achievement.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 15:40
Incredible achievement really considering our kwality of batting over the last 50 years.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 15:40
This pitch is looking pretty flat atm but there will be cloud tomorrow
By:
comingupthehill
When: 25 Jul 25 15:41
Has to be knight now.3 years and he should become all time highest,think he ll do it
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 15:44
Gill lookin* a little ou5 if his depth. Has not trued a spinner with a harder ball
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 25 Jul 25 15:45
Don’t see why  not unless his reactions go.

The best fast bowlers are all getting old too!
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