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England v India 2nd Test.
England v India 2nd Test.
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Again!
Should always think about putting the opposition in then bat! Very poor from Stokes both times imho. Could be excused last time because but this time absolutely no excuse and the chickens coming home to roost |
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Devil's advocate but some fine margins in-play with this one - we bowled pretty well, especially Woakes, for first three hours.
Furthermore, Umpire's Call sees Jaiswal and Gill gone cheaply another day. England are cantering at 300/3 before the new ball having skittled India for 240... |
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He does make some odd calls. Was at Wellington the other year when, after the first innings with a big lead he put NZ back into bat, instead of batting them out of the game and making sure the 2 match series was won. NZ got a big second innings score and beat us by 1 run, levelling the series 1-1. The press seem to like him and he gets away with it.
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Don't have a lot of confidence in England batting six-plus sessions to take India out of the game - even on a flat one - but could yet turn out that first sixty overs of this match were the trickiest to bat.
Not completely sold that this deteriorates, yet |
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Accept and despite everything they still won the previous Test but this is Test cricket not the village green. These Indian betters are pretty good. The weather forecast was quite clear. Archer and Atkinson missing.
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Oh I like him barstool,
I forgive him his mistakes but they are mistakes. |
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There is no point declaring on this surface
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So do I. He knows people have paid to watch too. Remember Strauss, afraid of declaring too soon, to our detriment at times.
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England will be 10/1 soon.
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I disagree with a lot of what he does and particularly at times what he says but who am i to tell him what to do and who has the right to call for his head?
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I am going to green out between 12 and 15
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I would love to see Gill play more freely but he hasn't had the opportunity yet this series. He cannot trust his batting line up yet.
I would love to see India go after Bashir at Lords |
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Going to be a couple of leg weary openers coming out to bat about 5.30.
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Spun off the straight!
Still fancy England to get a big total in reply. I would try and get a triple if I was Gill. Go for highest Indian score ever. |
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No dropped catches in 151 overs is pretty rare i'd have thought ?
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Pretty wild that the market has England at 6.4, late on day two, trailing by more than 570 runs
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Hmmn
I love the market! |
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2 gone, Pope first ball.
2 days in the field done them no favours. |
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this is bonkers cricket by england , even if they win this match , this isnt the way to play at all
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It must have been difficult. 2 days in the field, flat pitch, sun out m.
Oh yeah, it’s called Test cricket. |
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Whatever happens, England should have batted first. It almost seems deliberate to go against the norm just for the sake of it, it's arrogant and the main thing i dislike about the bazball ethos. They got away with it at Headingley in part by batting sensibly on the last day on a decent track, but mainly due to the pitiful performance of the Indian lower order in both innings (55 runs in total for 10 wickets !).
On a separate note, the County Championship games in the last couple of weeks have been farcical as they have been using the Kookaburra ball which has done absolutely eff all for the bowlers. High scoring draws with hardly any wickets falling has followed. One of the excuses for using this ball is that it gets the bowlers used to it as they use them down under, however none of the bowlers in the championship this week is likely to be on the plane for the Ashes in the winter - meanwhile the test match is taking place at the moment using the Dukes ball !! You really couldn't make it up, although the ECB seem to be doing so. |
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The principle isn't that unreasonable - it shows that on flat decks with the kookaburra ball most of the potential candidates for England's bowling attack are next to useless which is why so often historically they've been ineffective in both Australia and the sub continent (though ball brands have varied out of Australia).
The downside is it's obviously not helping the cricket in the county championship though weather has played it's part as well, especially this spring and summer so far.. one of the biggest issues is that improved drainage means it's nigh on impossible to get any pace or bounce at most grounds which is what makes the kookaburra at least reasonable in Sheffield Shield cricket and Australian test matches.. |
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If they were going to use the kookaburra ball it should have been for all matches all season to make it fair for all teams. Just using it for a few rounds of matches is daft. We know that in our conditions and on our pitches the Dukes ball generally makes for a fairer contest between bat and ball.
The few bowlers that have impressed at all with the kookaburra are (surprise surprise) overseas imports in the main. If they wanted our test match bowlers to get used to using it they should have allowed them to play for their counties when it was being used. |
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Gill said he would have bowled first too.
Woakes could have had 3/4 on that first morning & India were 210-5. Pope is not a number 3, he really needs to work on his technique, playing across the line is a recipe for disaster Even when he gets runs he gets dropped several times & squirts plenty through 3rd man |
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If they wanted our test match bowlers to get used to using it they should have allowed them to play for their counties when it was being used.
I don't think that's the purpose as such, the idea is to develop bowlers in county cricket who can learn the skills to be effective on flattish surfaces with a ball that doesn't do a lot beyond the first 10 overs or so.. spinners in theory especially if they can develop some skills beyond their stock delivery should increase in value, genuine pace bowlers and seamers who learn the skills of cutters and reverse swing potentially as well.. I'm not especially in favour of the experiment (neutral tbh) but I get the logic behind it. If it's deemed not to be useful they can simply revert to using the dukes ball all season, the modern county championship is a pale imitation of what it used to be anyway so attempting something that might help the national team down the line doesn't seem unreasonable to me. |
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Still a battting day or rather no demons yet.
I agree with you Dixie. Even with the value of hindsight Stokes said h3 would not have changed his call in the First Test. We have seen the consequences of that arrogance and ignorance in this Test. India were nearly out of sight 3 times in the first game. It is a credit to Stokes England won that game but before they did India let them back in 3 times. Further consequences are the wear and tear on his players nit jus5 the bowlers. He has also given the Indian batters opportunities to gain confidence. I would never call for Stokes to resign or not to do things his way but if he does not acknowledge his mistakes privately i5 is a serious flaw. Never go back, never say you are sorry and never admit you are wrong by all means but do not tell me you would make the same call again! |
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These two batsmen are glorious
Add Bethel to that and England are lookin* good going forward. |
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Might have a big bet in the draw if the price is right.
England only 20-1 go figure that |
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Laying England at 13.0 here does feel like a gift for those with big pockets.
Can't see it is a 12/1 shot but very happy for Smith & Brook to prove this wrong |
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These two batsmen are glorious
Add Bethel to that and England are lookin* good going forward. Agree, incredible talents. They ooze confidence, not hard for opposition bowlers to become a little desperate once they're 'in'. Similar to my feeling that fielders slightly snatch at chances from Brook - knowing the magnitude of seeing the back of him. |
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I thought England at 5% ROI was a good price! ( 20 ).
Even better now. Imagine it goes down to 10 |
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I am patient waiting for my draw price
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160-5 not too dissimilar to 211-5, it's the hope that kills you
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draw looks likely to me - india won't follow-on and too cautious to give themselves enough time to bowl england out in the 4th inning
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Smith & Brook > Jadeja & Gill.
Two hours from parity, right? |
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Excellent from Smiff
Getting really excited for The Ashes Looks like we finally will be able to fight fire with fire. Archer, Atkinson, Wood, Carse Sadly lacking a World Class spinner. I ho India are keeping Bashir in the side deliberately as he offers no threat. I like the kid though and believe in him like Stokes does. Need a leggie in Aus too. |
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Yeah, I'd prefer to take draw at 4.5, than India at 1.44, right now.
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Yes I am lower on the draw. Was too greedy not to take 6 but a long way to go and am waiting to see what the spinners will do and how the pitch behaves
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Here we go
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