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By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 01 Jul 23 13:42
Stokes knee has upset the balance of this team. We need 5 bowlers. We also need a wicket keeper. Not sure where we go from here.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 01 Jul 23 13:43
The match situation is quite exciting
By:
brentford
When: 01 Jul 23 14:00
been a bit untidy hasn't he JB...can't see them changing it though...hopefully improves as the series goes on.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 01 Jul 23 14:13
He has been rubbish!
By:
brentford
When: 01 Jul 23 14:22
prior to the series only kept in 2 first class matches in the last 10 months...

he's not a natural keeper but tough for anyone when you have had so little game time doing it...the concentration required as much as anything...
By:
mafeking
When: 01 Jul 23 14:35
the difference with carey has been stark. performed his job with minimum of fuss hardly making a mistake. you can't have a keeper having 4 or 5 missed chances in a game
By:
brentford
When: 01 Jul 23 14:53
Boring, Boring, Aussies...   Mischief
By:
Try My Best
When: 01 Jul 23 14:56
Might sell my Old Trafford first day ticket if this carries on.
By:
brentford
When: 01 Jul 23 15:02
lol...can't make this stuff up though the onus was on Oz to move the game on...
By:
Try My Best
When: 01 Jul 23 15:03
What on earth is Green thinking of. I would drop this guy and bring in Marsh. He's simply not good enough and not the brightest.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 01 Jul 23 15:07
Brains Trust not doing well over the last 2 days.

This is good from England as they were staring down the barrel

I cannot believe everybody is hooking and pulling in the air, just so dumb.

I understand Lyon is injured but Aus are taking their foot of the England neck. All 3 results still possible but Aus rightly heavy odds on.
By:
brentford
When: 01 Jul 23 15:10
creditable effort from Stokes to bowl a stint but must be absolutely wrecking his knee..
By:
Try My Best
When: 01 Jul 23 15:11
This game should have been out of reach by now and we have been pathetic
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 15:19
Some of the commentary are really attempting to flipping have their cake and eat it now.

A couple succumb to short leg and we're back round to, "at least if you hit a few to the boundary, the bowler will be dissuaded from bowling short".

My gosh. Just, my gosh.
By:
brentford
When: 01 Jul 23 15:21
going to be entertaining stuff in the 4th inns anyway...Aussies steaming in with plenty of short stuff ...Eng presumably taking it on...
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 15:22
Yup, for sure. If I were a betting man (Wink) I'd not be going anywhere near England at 3/1, mind.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 15:24
In a similar vein to the way Cummins has shaped in his ten deliveries faced...I think several of the England batters will attempt to get way outside leg and ping the short stuff straight/into off.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 15:25
Who the heck knows how that will go, but hopefully they can pull out the miracle.
By:
brentford
When: 01 Jul 23 15:25
logic says no apt' ...does seem to be some slightly more perceivable inconsistency off the pitch when banging it in now as well plus 8-10mph quicker  ....though maybe just brainwashed by the comms...
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 15:26
I think the comms have brainwashed themselves, never mind anyone else.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 15:27
They were probably soaking up the forum earlier CrazyCrazy
By:
brentford
When: 01 Jul 23 15:27
might need to go even harder early doors if they pitch it up for 5-6 overs...Mischief
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 15:31
We are going to try to SMASH IT, I'd be astonished to see anything else.

Ability-to-face-short-stuff aside, I would point to what has happened to both us (day three) and Oz against the short stuff when they've not gone hell for leather. They've scored nothing and all gotten out.

It's a ginormous over-simplification as it's not all been short and not all the identical approach but it's something like 120 all out between the two teams.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 15:35
Credit must go to Australia when they were really under it on the wrong side of 180/1 late on day two...

Whether or not they thought the pitch was perhaps a tad inconsistent, or whether they were just 'trying something different'...(I hugely favour the latter)...they hit on a great tactic that has unsettled almost every batter since.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 15:38
If Ollie Robinson has troubled established batters with predominantly short bowling at sub 80mph, I'm with you brentford...

Crank this up to Hazlewood & Cummins, never mind Starc speed, and it is gonna be a lot more difficult.

Or maybe it just flies further, faster DevilTongue Out
By:
Try My Best
When: 01 Jul 23 15:43
Pathetic. Doesn't need to play at that. Brain dead and we are going to lose this game
By:
brentford
When: 01 Jul 23 15:50
fair play Gary...
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 15:53
Did not expect us at 2/1, chasing 350+.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 01 Jul 23 16:08
I agree, it's 361 to win and I wouldn't want to be on at 2/1 either.
By:
sageform
When: 01 Jul 23 16:10
Seen it all now. No 11 bat can't walk never mind run so can only hit boundaries! England are 20/1 with me to score 360 so why are they staying out there? It is either Aus or a draw.
By:
sageform
When: 01 Jul 23 16:11
And Stokes can't walk either. Surely he can't play in the next match.
By:
brentford
When: 01 Jul 23 16:15
shot Gary Cool
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 16:16
It ain't gonna be a draw.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 01 Jul 23 16:19
This could still be a draw!
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 01 Jul 23 16:22
My book is nice enough on Australia, it won't be a draw.
We'll go 2 down methinks.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 01 Jul 23 16:26
Nobody happy!

I love this game Stan.

I found it extremely enthralling, dumb, but enthralling nonetheless.

Try My Best might be p*ssed by the Australian batting but I know which side I would rather my money was on.

England do need to play their shots and start fast against the new ball. As they say that is their way but when Aus revert to banging it in short they really must have a better plan. They can hit the short ball but keep it down ffs. Personally I like to hear a couple go past my left ear before playing aggressively. Get in before picking up the gauntlet.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 16:27
I reckon market has the draw correct.

But I'd be 1.22 Aus 5.5 Eng, or something like that.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 01 Jul 23 16:27
Back to the glory days sippy?

30/3. 40/4.

Love to see the Bazball Entertainers not playing to win! Banging it in short to entertain the crowd!
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 16:30
I don't fully disagree WD but Cameron Green was the closest to that approach...

Nothing off 20, followed by 2/3 in the air through the fielders, followed by out for 18 in two hours.

Granted, I've no idea of the optimal approach but I'm more than happy to see us go down in a blaze.
By:
Aptdemon
When: 01 Jul 23 16:35
If a couple of our top four get going as they can...I can *really* see Australia getting spooked again, and pretty quickly.

Do they have the cahoonas to carry on bumping if we're 80/1 off 12?
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