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Ashes - 4th Test, Old Trafford - Manchester - Sep 04-Sep08
Ashes - 4th Test, Old Trafford - Manchester - Sep 04-Sep08
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Smiths wicket is the one. Market would react heavily
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My gonads are used to it!
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In fact often surprised I've still got two of 'em.
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Is it looking dark yet?
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I missed that Ellis as I got hooked on the tv not radio!
It is more than just numbers Libertine. If Aus do get skittled one might opine that the pitch is not easy to bat on. The innings scores are coming down consecutively. At Headingley the scores got better with each innings. That doesn't tell the full story. You just have to watch the uneven bounce to see where this is going. People egtting bowled and lbw....why? Because it is bloody difficult to face a 6ft something fast bowler at the best of times when they can bowl in excess of 90mph. Much harder when the bounce is uneven. At the moment it is keeping slightly low. later you may get the odd lifter and it is likely to spin more as the game progresses. Numbers don't always tell that story but watching cricket does. |
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Dont forget Aus only need to draw this series to retain the ashes
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*sorry meant ashes, not series
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figures are for the ashes, not series
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I get what you’re saying Tom but I think you’ve missed something. If you consider England score at say 3 an over, if Australia are all out for a lead of 300 they only have 100 overs to bowl England out. If England score at 4 an over they have even less, if Aussies get less than 300 lead they have even less overs to bowl England out. Just because there’s more overs left in the game by Aussies being out quickly it doesn’t mean they have more overs to bowl England out. Plus having more runs on the board means you can set more aggressive fields
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lol wonders hasn't a scooby what he's talking about
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eng won't be scoring @ 4s on day 5
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Here we go Smith is now set again
Just facking bounce his head off |
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Think Paine will bat for another 40 overs minimum if they can.
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They might if they’re in the game. Could score at 2.5 for most of the game then when they get writhin 100 score at a run a ball
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If I get out of my England lay at 19 I'll be content.
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England being aggressive and going for the win also increases Australias chance of winning
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In fact it went.
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Possibly, possibly not, could argue England playing positive is the best thing for them. They’re terrible at playing defensive haha
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GRANTCKING 06 Sep 19 16:48
Grin to be fair, this looked like a cert thai after day 1 imo |
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The early wickets have helped England, as most of the middle order are unlikely to score at a high clip. Now, though, it would be good if there were no more wickets, and the Aus innings just ticked along slowly. Given what happened last time and the fact that Aus don't have to win either test to retain the Ashes, Paine won't be aggressive with his declaration. Just control the run-rate, and we should be able to see this through to a draw, and there'll be all to play for in the final test.
If England had bowled anything like this from the first over of the test, they'd probably be in with a good shout of a win, as the batting wasn't too bad. However, they were dreck on the first day and a bit, so just take the draw and move on. But going for the win will almost certainly see us chuck away the Ashes. |
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I'd be surprised if England could last a full day.
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but will Aus risk that with 330-350 lead ?
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I'd say so gibmark
Can't see England pushing for 350 on the last day, it'll be backs to the wall stuff in my opinion |
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350 yes 300 no.
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Be amazingly surprised if he declares for less than 400. They don't have to win..
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HonkyJoe • September 7, 2019 4:30 PM BST
Be amazingly surprised if he declares for less than 400. They don't have to win.. exactly!! |
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Brilliant from Smith. Bat like your 270-4 not 70-4.
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stokes doing the team talk, there's ya skipper right there imo
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Aussies only need to win one of the two games or draw both. Having a good lead with opponents batting on day five needing a decent total is a reason to go for the win imo. If they lose still got last test.
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they have to approach it like they have to win. draw here and lose the toss at the oval and chances are they're in big trouble
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yeap wonder
If he wants the job give it him right away, a much more capable man than Root And he has the ears of his team mates |
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Root already panicked with the field. Has to hold his nerve and go for wickets.
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Yeah I was impressed with Stokes giving the team talk but also thought Botham would make a good captain.
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Charlie
I think he's a little more intelligent than say Flintoff, I always thought Flinty would have been a better vice captain, he was to pally to be the main man in my opinion Stokes is a stern fellow who has the tactical nouse as well |
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You don't have to make your best leader the captain, in fact there's probably good arguments to be made for not having them.
Stokes can still do his inspirational stuff/leadership without having the added pressure of captaincy |
young pecker here must have done his bollocks