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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 14:58

I think they'll want a 400 lead, but will settle for 350+

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tomtimtum When: 07 Sep 19 14:58

Sep 7, 2019 -- 2:56PM, Hamlin wrote:

tom they don't want all the wickets. But Aussies will slow down and play defensive. We want to keep them on 6/7 down till tomorrow morning

i guess if the wickets force Aus into a fear of losing the match and into defensive mode, wickets help in that regard

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wondersobright When: 07 Sep 19 14:58

TIMBER

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tomtimtum When: 07 Sep 19 14:58

ffs

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wondersobright When: 07 Sep 19 14:59

Sep 7, 2019 -- 2:58PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Sep 7, 2019 -- 2:56PM, Hamlin wrote:tom they don't want all the wickets. But Aussies will slow down and play defensive. We want to keep them on 6/7 down till tomorrow morningi guess if the wickets force Aus into a fear of losing the match and into defensive mode, wickets help in that regard

if headingley hadn't just happened, nobody would be fearing losing from the position they are in

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Angoose When: 07 Sep 19 14:59

Slow down Stuart, slow down ......

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wondersobright When: 07 Sep 19 14:59

plum

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johnnythebull When: 07 Sep 19 14:59

if only we could bat we could maybe get into the 1st tier of world cricket

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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 15:00

Wickets while Aus are under 100 are good, once they get to around 150, we should bowl to slow the run rate and not for wickets

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wondersobright When: 07 Sep 19 15:01

wickets shortening the aus price & therefore lengthening eng's chances of winning the series (the ultimate goal)

few people seem to be able to grasp the big picture, which is worrying

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tomtimtum When: 07 Sep 19 15:01

Jesus look at that avg, almost 65!

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SontaranStratagem When: 07 Sep 19 15:01

Smith surely has to go early at some point?

He can't keep making facking 100s

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tomtimtum When: 07 Sep 19 15:02

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:01PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

Smith surely has to go early at some point? He can't keep making facking 100s

get a tenner on him to make a ton

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SontaranStratagem When: 07 Sep 19 15:02

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:01PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Jesus look at that avg, almost 65!

We've inflated it this series, it was at 49 when he arrived

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Angoose When: 07 Sep 19 15:02

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:01PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

Smith surely has to go early at some point? He can't keep making facking 100s

Can you please get a message out to him to make him aware of that

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wondersobright When: 07 Sep 19 15:02

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:01PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

Smith surely has to go early at some point? He can't keep making facking 100s

spread line low 40s...

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tomtimtum When: 07 Sep 19 15:03

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:02PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:01PM, tomtimtum wrote:Jesus look at that avg, almost 65!We've inflated it this series, it was at 49 when he arrived

59 maybe

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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 15:06

If wickets helped Aus win then they'd just declare now, its moronic to think otherwise. lol, a certain person can't seem to grasp that Aus losing wickets doesn't shorten their odds

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mafeking When: 07 Sep 19 15:07

realistically assuming bad light later only around 45 overs left today. touch and go whether they'll be enough in front to have a bowl at england tonight

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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 15:08

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:07PM, mafeking wrote:

realistically assuming bad light later only around 45 overs left today. touch and go whether they'll be enough in front to have a bowl at england tonight

Exactly, wickets slows the run rate, which means the chances of Aussies having to bat into tomorrow increases. This brings the thai down. Its simple.

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tomtimtum When: 07 Sep 19 15:08

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:08PM, Hamlin wrote:

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:07PM, mafeking wrote:realistically assuming bad light later only around 45 overs left today. touch and go whether they'll be enough in front to have a bowl at england tonightExactly, wickets slows the run rate, which means the chances of Aussies having to bat into tomorrow increases. This brings the thai down. Its simple.

It also increases the chance of Aus being bowled out and takes the declaration out of the equation, it isn't clear cut

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SaveTheWhales. When: 07 Sep 19 15:09

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:08PM, Hamlin wrote:

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:07PM, mafeking wrote:realistically assuming bad light later only around 45 overs left today. touch and go whether they'll be enough in front to have a bowl at england tonightExactly, wickets slows the run rate, which means the chances of Aussies having to bat into tomorrow increases. This brings the thai down. Its simple.

so two double hatricks here and the draw will be 1.10

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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 15:10

220 to win... I think Eng would be favs

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tomtimtum When: 07 Sep 19 15:10

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:09PM, SaveTheWhales. wrote:

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:08PM, Hamlin wrote:Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:07PM, mafeking wrote:realistically assuming bad light later only around 45 overs left today. touch and go whether they'll be enough in front to have a bowl at england tonightExactly, wickets slows the run rate, which means the chances of Aussies having to bat into tomorrow increases. This brings the thai down. Its simple.so two double hatricks here and the draw will be 1.10

Hamlin been floored!

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SaveTheWhales. When: 07 Sep 19 15:11

and the draw price?

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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 15:11

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:11PM, SaveTheWhales. wrote:

and the draw price?

Would be very high.

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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 15:12

I said Aus batting tomorrow would bring the Thai down, not Aus being bowled out.

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johnnythebull When: 07 Sep 19 15:12

Broad been bowling really well

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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 15:12

Reckon if Jimmy was fit and Overton f'd off, we'd be all over them

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wondersobright When: 07 Sep 19 15:13

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:10PM, tomtimtum wrote:

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:09PM, SaveTheWhales. wrote:Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:08PM, Hamlin wrote:Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:07PM, mafeking wrote:realistically assuming bad light later only around 45 overs left today. touch and go whether they'll be enough in front to have a bowl at england tonightExactly, wickets slows the run rate, which means the chances of Aussies having to bat into tomorrow increases. This brings the thai down. Its simple.so two double hatricks here and the draw will be 1.10 Hamlin been floored!

he's clueless T3

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I win every time! When: 07 Sep 19 15:13

Don't usually post on here, however the draw price is all wrong. Basically, ones calculation should be based on odds of Eng to survive one day (tomorrow). I price it as 2.5

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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 15:13

lol wonder clearly in denial about blocking me

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SontaranStratagem When: 07 Sep 19 15:14

Broad underrated

Just needs someone at the other end to back him up

Sadly none of them are

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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 15:14

If wickets only help Aussie, why are England trying to get them and why are Aussies trying to stop us bowling them out? Its really that simple.

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tomtimtum When: 07 Sep 19 15:14

Sep 7, 2019 -- 3:13PM, I win every time! wrote:

Don't usually post on here, however the draw price is all wrong. Basically, ones calculation should be based on odds of Eng to survive one day (tomorrow). I price it as 2.5

I hope you live up to your name

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I win every time! When: 07 Sep 19 15:15

Beyond belief that draw has drifted so much on the wickets. Fill her boots

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wondersobright When: 07 Sep 19 15:15

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Hamlin When: 07 Sep 19 15:15

Ayt?

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mafeking When: 07 Sep 19 15:15

they have to get bowled out well below 150 for it to make much of a difference. needs a very low score for england to facing much more than 100 overs almost whatever happens

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wondersobright When: 07 Sep 19 15:15

hit it??

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