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By:
jucel69
When: 03 Aug 17 08:23
Interested to see the pitch, only two draws in 15 years at OT & both of those were rain affected.
By:
Foinavon
When: 03 Aug 17 08:58
Looks like a draw lay at 3.5, as we should see some action for the first three days.
Good enough for me.
By:
jucel69
When: 03 Aug 17 10:10
Draw starting to look short now, especially with the collapses we have seen in the series so far
By:
green army
When: 03 Aug 17 10:31
draw just went 3.5 to 3.25 and out to 3.75 in 20 mins, now 3.6, bbc have some improved weather for first 2 days (tho theyre on their own there) but Monday / Tuesday still look bleak - is the fact SA are not interested in a draw a factor ?
By:
pxb
When: 03 Aug 17 10:55
BBC weather is about as reliable as BBC news.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Aug 17 12:51
Forecast was slightly worse when I went to bed.  We can count reverse swing out anyways http://d2s3dt9f4iyeup.cloudfront.net/images/standard_v1/187b5da2-2f00-43f1-b00c-b6f456c8430e.jpg
By:
detraveller
When: 03 Aug 17 13:26
CS, when you paste links, put a comma on a new line or more text so the link doesn't get truncated.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Aug 17 13:33
Yeah I know didn't work, just a picture of lots of puddles on the outfield at Old Trafford. Plain
By:
Fatslogger
When: 03 Aug 17 16:59
Wet outfield could be a problem although with only showers forecast for the first few days and not that many even of them on latest Met office update, shouldn't really affect play much. I'm trying to play with some draw fluctuations but am essentially very red on it. No matter how wet the last couple of days might be (and the forecast could easily be pessimistic), think there's a very decent chance that won't matter, or at least that the draw will trade long enough at some stage that the risk is fairly low.

Is true that England would play a conservative game with declarations if it got to the stage where that might matter but England's actual batting tends to be aggressive and indeed not all that good a lot of the time anyway so unlikely to be that much of a factor.
By:
cricketnut2
When: 03 Aug 17 22:22
2 closely matched sides, who have be thrashing each other, so who knows what this final Test will bring.
By:
pxb
When: 03 Aug 17 22:44
I don't think a wet outfield will be a problem before day 4. Not that I am saying it will be on day 4, but it might.

Friday starts humid, so the ball should swing first session.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Aug 17 23:08
I've never worked a test match pregame trading as well as I have done here. Excited could not do this for a test match outside of England or Wales, just checking the met office every waking hour for the last 4 days did it ....and probably a bit of luck. Grin draw looks too short now.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 03 Aug 17 23:10
^checking met office every hour of every waking hour for last 4 days that is ^ Grin
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 04:03

Aug 3, 2017 -- 11:10PM, Cardinal Scott wrote:


^checking met office every hour of every waking hour for last 4 days that is ^


That's what I do, it's the best way to win.
Having a juicy green before a ball is bowled, gives you the confidence to be bold in the first few days

By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 04:06
Forecast has taken a massive turn for the worse day 1 & 2

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcw25uekz#?date=2017-08-04

Rain today and tomorrow forecast.
The most important thing is there is heavy rain forecast at 10/11 am when the tv comes on, amazing how that affects the market.
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 04:06
just cleaned up all the draw down to 3.1
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 04:10
The outfield could well become an issue through the game
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 04:12

Aug 4, 2017 -- 4:06AM, jucel69 wrote:


Forecast has taken a massive turn for the worse day 1 & 2http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/forecast/gcw25uekz#?date=2017-08-04Rain today and tomorrow forecast.The most important thing is there is heavy rain forecast at 10/11 am when the tv comes on, amazing how that affects the market.


just been updated, looks like the rain will arrive earlier

By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 04:22
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuhYQ8iIcAAZvkF.jpg

Remember this from 2014 v India
OT after heavy rain on day 2 of the test.
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 04:27
Radar looks clear, very strange from the met officeConfused
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 04:40

Aug 4, 2017 -- 4:27AM, jucel69 wrote:


Radar looks clear, very strange from the met office


radar starting to pick them up now for 7/8 am

By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 05:06
met office changes significantly ever hour, going to be a bumpy ride
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 06:08
fcuked that trade up, forecast looks fine again! Had to bail at 3.4/3.5
By:
pxb
When: 04 Aug 17 06:09
I got a draw lay at 3.05, back at 3.35 in.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Aug 17 06:58
Looks pretty clear today, to me. Met office seems pretty bullish all test, now, although still some suspicion of dodgy weather last couple of days. Think this draw is crazy low but have had an awful lot of it already, some with trades back.
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 07:10

Aug 4, 2017 -- 6:58AM, Fatslogger wrote:


Looks pretty clear today, to me. Met office seems pretty bullish all test, now, although still some suspicion of dodgy weather last couple of days. Think this draw is crazy low but have had an awful lot of it already, some with trades back.


What I did was worth the risk. If that forecast of heavy rain at 10/11 am had held the draw would have collapsed

By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Aug 17 07:20
Fair enough. I was asleep! Guess the point isn't that a sharp shower would necessarily have even delayed the start but it would have freaked the market out. The market is always very jittery about showers when the overall forecast is dodgy.
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 07:21

Aug 4, 2017 -- 7:20AM, Fatslogger wrote:


Fair enough. I was asleep! Guess the point isn't that a sharp shower would necessarily have even delayed the start but it would have freaked the market out. The market is always very jittery about showers when the overall forecast is dodgy.


One update had heavy rain at 10 & 11am, only lasted 1 hour though on the met service

By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Aug 17 07:22
Moved my draw back at 3.8 out of the way as pretty sure we'll see the 4s before play.
By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Aug 17 07:25

Aug 4, 2017 -- 7:21AM, jucel69 wrote:


Aug  4, 2017 --  7:20AM, Fatslogger wrote:Fair enough. I was asleep! Guess the point isn't that a sharp shower would necessarily have even delayed the start but it would have freaked the market out. The market is always very jittery about showers when the overall forecast is dodgy.One update had heavy rain at 10 & 11am, only lasted 1 hour though on the met service


Draw could have been 2.5! Odd though as very little on the satellite.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Aug 17 07:25
Not that I was looking at the satellite then, to be fair but there's very little now.
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 07:26

Aug 4, 2017 -- 7:25AM, Fatslogger wrote:


Aug  4, 2017 --  7:21AM, jucel69 wrote:Aug  4, 2017 --  7:20AM, Fatslogger wrote:Fair enough. I was asleep! Guess the point isn't that a sharp shower would necessarily have even delayed the start but it would have freaked the market out. The market is always very jittery about showers when the overall forecast is dodgy.One update had heavy rain at 10 & 11am, only lasted 1 hour though on the met serviceDraw could have been 2.5! Odd though as very little on the satellite.


There was for a while, you could see a big band of heavy rain over the the Irish sea, then it all just dissipated.

By:
Fatslogger
When: 04 Aug 17 08:17
Had literally 2p of my 4.1 draw back matched now draw back down 3.6. Shouldn't have been so greedy with it and could have had another trade.
By:
pxb
When: 04 Aug 17 08:30
After the first session should be good for batting for 3 days. Then showers/rain. Early days, but with decent batting first innings, draw looks a runner.
By:
timbo-returns
When: 04 Aug 17 08:40
Pitch been under covers, lots of moisture, overhead cloudy, could be a bowling day!!
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 09:14
Will this be the first time a test player has bowled at an end named after him?
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 09:41
Atherton says the outfield is sodden
By:
jucel69
When: 04 Aug 17 09:41
https://twitter.com/SkyCricket
By:
DAN1974
When: 04 Aug 17 09:45
Im out of my draw lay now. Problems with the outfield give me cold sweats!
By:
detraveller
When: 04 Aug 17 10:18
Im hoping not to trade much and get a chance to back the draw after early wickets. Hope it materializes. See you guys in the evening. Ciao.
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